G12 S2 update

[Cucurbita]

Actually has me interested in downloading KR again.

Update one: Giant Renewal

Giant looks will be updated, specifically males. Their muscle design will be reworked. Many more clothing will be added.

Javalin damage is buffed ("greatly"), roughly implying they will do more damage than arrows.

Taunt and Wind Guard's effects will increase.

GO GIANTS.

http://file.mabinogi.com/C3/Data/UpImg/4211810.jpg

Update two: Crash Shot

Crash Shot is a new archer skill with an "explosive effect similar to ice mine".

The shot will only explode if there are additional enemies nearby the original target.

The more enemies there are to explode on, the more damage the original target will receive.

http://file.mabinogi.com/C3/Data/UpImg/421175116.jpg

Update three: Support Shot Renewal

While Support Shot's damage will be lower, the shot will put the enemy in a weakened status. During this condition the enemy will be susceptible to ONE attack at far more damage than usual.

Increasing its rank will not increase support shot's damage, but will increase the damage of the next attack that lands on the monsters. "At rank 1, the damage difference in the next attack will be surprisingly high".

The shot will not knock down the opponent, so you won't have to worry about interrupting your party member's attack.

Changes: Uses 2 stamina instead of 1. There are no range penalty opposed to the 80% it had before.

http://file.mabinogi.com/C3/Data/UpImg/421174226.jpg

Update four: Food Renewal

New food eating animation. New camp sharing animation.

Food bonuses and effect length will be increased upon sharing.

RP cooking dungeon is added.

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[Chiri]

New archer skills~~ :thumb:
I hope they give a lot of dex :3

Oh, and I'm really glad for the giant update. I hope I can see some unique looking giants in the future.


Cooking dungeon.... I'd like more details on this one o.o

[Phunkie]

I knew Giants had nothing to fear!

DevCat wasn't gonna leave them out of the picture. :)

G12S2, I love you.

Glad to see this game still has more for us. Even after defeating a God boss. Craaazy.


Edit: Giant in the middle looks ridiculously badass.

[pkMaster]

XD, the giant in the middle kinda looks like Cloud from a distance.

[Joker]

OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG.... OMG! this make me love nexon :cryno:... \o/..... wait... it wont be out
for anothe 6-12 months? .... ... NOOOO!!!.......:no!: :fail:

[Phunkie]

Ooh baby, I'm turned on.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZKexeEDdnKI

[Chiri]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZKcqHr3urzc


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7U0fzYvxMrA

Giant female <3


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=csWj-pZRpw0

[Phunkie]

These new Giants remind me of the people who came to North America during the last Ice Age. The ones who hunted Mammoths and ate them for lunch and dinner. That's how they should have been from the beginning.

MAN, can't wait!


Edit: Beat me to it. ;D

[shzukahime]

Wow, giants actually look decent now. o 3o

Too bad it will be ages before it will be in NA. - w-

[Chiri]

Hey hey, new [accurate!] bow drawing animations ~


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHZvxVe4yKw

Cooking dungeon?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ajua8SWjbaQ

[Laconicus]

Wow, giants actually look decent now. o 3o

Too bad it will be ages before it will be in NA. - w-
My thoughts exactly. I'd actually consider playing a giant now, I couldn't stand how they looked before. Of course I'm not going to, but...

But even more yay, new archery skills! I've been thinking that we archers are rather short on skills. I wonder if support shot will be worth using at all?

[Arsik]

Wow, male Giants actually look decent now. The preview could have been better by showing these new clothes that Giants can wear, since they just showed what Giants can already wear.

And I want that new hairstyle for Giantesses. Dx Oh well, hopefully they've finally added some magical clothing for Giantesses in this update. It sucks having absolutely no way of getting Raccoon Cub at all.

*Edit:

Hey hey, new [accurate!] bow drawing animations ~


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHZvxVe4yKw

Now is that just for Magnum Shot, or is that for all range attacks?

[Laconicus]

Wow, giants actually look decent now. o 3o

Too bad it will be ages before it will be in NA. - w-
My thoughts exactly. I'd actually consider playing a giant now, I couldn't stand how they looked before. Of course I'm not going to, but...

But even more yay, new archery skills! I've been thinking that we archers are rather short on skills. I wonder if support shot will be worth using at all? The new skill appears to have a bad cooldown though according to Chiri's video ._.

EDIT: Ok, I would like to know how it's possible to double post with someone else's post in between yours O_O

[Justified]

Support shot sounds awesome. Are we talking like +100% damage here? :glare:

And giants aren't /gag anymore.

[Phunkie]

Support Shot reminds me of Frozen Blast now, in a way.

You shoot the enemy and then the next attack on the enemy deals more damage than it would normally.

Sorta like Frozen Blast how you reduce Defense and Protection, which equals more damage.

Looks useful for party play.

[Cucurbita]

Arsik, thats Crash shot, not magnum shot.

And we don't know the mechanics for support shot's damage addition.
It could be reduction of defense, or add of fixed damage, or perhaps % based.

If its % based, the game is now broken. Watch fireballs launch with added % bonus.

[Rime]

Whoa, what? They bishified male giants. Sexy~

What's also sexy is crash shot. Looks like ranged people finally get a decent range-based splash attack.

[Baku]

This is really interesting, giants look nice (I still don't like their animations though...) , and the support shot effect is interesting.

[Arsik]

Arsik, thats Crash shot, not magnum shot.

And we don't know the mechanics for support shot's damage addition.
It could be reduction of defense, or add of fixed damage, or perhaps % based.

If its % based, the game is now broken. Watch fireballs launch with added % bonus.

/didn't watch it through all the way.

Saw the skill icon, which looks like Magnum Shot's icon, then saw the Elf miss, then went and edited my post.

[Cucurbita]

Crash Shot is... kinda the same thing as Blaze.

[Chiri]

Do you know how easy it is to get these skills? They don't seem like page collection skills if people already have them...

[Zid]

Awesome season update. Props to buffing the Giants and making them look better.


Update three: Support Shot Renewal

While Support Shot's damage will be lower, the shot will put the enemy in a weakened status. During this condition the enemy will be susceptible to ONE attack at far more damage than usual.

Increasing its rank will not increase support shot's damage, but will increase the damage of the next attack that lands on the monsters. "At rank 1, the damage difference in the next attack will be surprisingly high".

The shot will not knock down the opponent, so you won't have to worry about interrupting your party member's attack.

Changes: Uses 2 stamina instead of 1. There are no range penalty opposed to the 80% it had before.

I like how it's now suddenly so useful after being made fun of all this time. It's like a tiny mouse suddenly growing shark-like teeth. :XD:

What funny irony~

[Zxavier]

i kinda like the way my giant looks now can we keep the same faces we have now or will they look like the new ones in the future? because the preview of the new looks that was shown makes giants look too much like humans the more rounded face annoys me but the new facial features like the war paint looks good and the new attack stance with a sword looks cool. I really hope the new support shot is good and the giant females finally look right i hope g12 comes soon.

[Chiri]

Hm, I don't know about that. I mean, more recently human/elf females didn't have the option of opting out of rounder breasts and different under-garments.

[Phunkie]

The change is probably universal and there's no real choice.

I'm not complaining though. Giants now look too much like Ganondorf...

[Chiri]

Yeah, I'm not a fan of bear-ish men.

[Kurezan]

Awesome.. Giants getting the update.. Hoping we get this soon, despite it being so far away.

[pkMaster]

Giants now look too much like Ganondorf...

I wouldn't really consider that a bad thing. Though I do like the newer look for the giants. At least the female giants look decent now.

[Rime]

Awesome.. Giants getting the update.. Hoping we get this soon, despite it being so far away.

Hee-ho! We, apparently, got hee-human remodeling early, ho! Who-ho's to say we won't get giant re-hee-modeling early as well?

[Crimmy]

Hee-ho! We, apparently, got hee-human remodeling early, ho! Who-ho's to say we won't get giant re-hee-modeling early as well?

>w</ *Crosses fingers.*

I hope we do. I sincerely approve of the new look for giants. New clothing, do want badly. Although, I don't see much of a difference between the current female giants at all besides the face paint so I don't see how they didn't look decent before...? owo

[ＣＩＲＮＯ]

Those giants actually look awesome.

Like seriously.

[Kyouriharu]

Crash Shot looks interesting on paper, however, I'd love to see it in practice. Here's hoping that it gets some kind of elven buff, cheers.

[Cucurbita]

Crash Shot looks interesting on paper, however, I'd love to see it in practice. Here's hoping that it gets some kind of elven buff, cheers.

I'd rather still go magnum shot, unless this thing proves better at rank 1.

The skill would've been better if it had a firework-like effect and the explosions ricochet from unit to unit, with the possibility of hitting the same unit multiple times. Like, "the number of times it strikes equals the number of enemies". The damage potential would be higher than magnum if you're targeting a crowd. Plus you'd hold them longer since it strikes multiple times.

Meh, whatever. To me this looks identical to blaze with a few numerical and slight technical differences.

[Cide]

mmm, new archery skills. *u* and the new giants look really good too! even though i don't play them, this is an update to look forward to :3

[Osayidan]

Actually feel like installing mabi now and playing until G12, but my hate for nexon NA is still too great for me to play yet.

[Juno]

brb dancing for joy

[Cucurbita]

LOL

Giant Throw skill Rank 1
900% damage.

BRB fishing for javalins.

[Lan]

LOL

Giant Throw skill Rank 1
900% damage.

BRB fishing for javalins.

Gargamaru will weep...in happiness ^_^

[EndlessDreams]

Wow, a lot of improvements on very old stuff and some new skills as well. Nice to see devCAT is still updating Mabinogi.

[Kayalomy]

Does this mean giant trans appearance will be changed as well?

[Juno]

LOL

Giant Throw skill Rank 1
900% damage.

BRB fishing for javalins.

900%...of what?

The rounder faces is so-so to me but the much greater variety more than makes up for it. I definitely will be getting a prem rebirth when these changes hit.

As for skills, I want to know about the changes to wind guard/taunt or w/e they changed. Crash shot looks like it's more for single target damage and has greater splash range than magnum though it's less useful against bosses that don't have lots of minions nearby. Support shot...Are they seriously adding party play mechanics? Awesome~


Oh, and the cooking revamp is nice too~

[Lan]

...crash shot=Bomb Arrow=One step closer to perfect Link cosplay :D

[Earthquake]

I wonder how fat male giants look. Many players make those for the hell of it anyways. Guess I'll train my giant later on.

[Kudos]

Wow, I have hope for my giant clunky giant. I hope nexon gesture'd this update and we get it soon.
-Gesture, as in we got gestures( a mainly cosmetic feature ) really early-

[Blassreiter]

This, is, awesome. We finally get face tattoos like Kirine and Krug. Their appearance underwent pedomorphism so they don't look "Manly/Womanly" anymore, some people might not like this. Renewed animation, pretty cool (the Giant held the Vales Great Sword like Riku KHII :x ). Throwing Attack just got more stronger. The load time apparently is still 2 Seconds, but it indeed became stronger. I don't know about stats adding damage however. Also Long Javelins are sold at NPC shops apparently.

[Swordslayer]

Errr... I dunno if this has been ask yet, but crash shot is for humans too.... right?! :what:

[Rime]

Hee-ho! The one firing the crash shot in the second screenie looked hee-human enough, ho!

[Blassreiter]

Crash Shot is for both Humans and Elves.

[spazzyorbit]

So... I won't be able to make fun of giants anymore...

[woohoohelloppl]

I can't wait for this to come to NA! Go giants! I want that new archer skill so bad! :O

[Swordslayer]

After.... so many years..... a new.... human archer skill....? And a revamp to an old one....?

*UUUUUUUUUUUK YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!
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[Blassreiter]

Here's some intel that I know about Crash Shot: Ranking it will make the blast effect stronger. At rank 1 it gives approximately 16 Mana and 31 Dex however, it costs a whopping 490 AP for Rank 1. It takes about 3 seconds to load.

Throwing Attack just gets a new damage formula, instead of the crappy Magic Bolt-style one where it adds damage and not boost damage with percent. At Rank F Throwing Attack deals 300% damage, about the same damage as a Rank 9 Magnum Shot. At Rank 1 it deals 900% damage. It seems utterly overpowered, however I believe that stats still do not affect damage for Throwing Attack. Also I don't believe that the Atlatls were upgraded to become upgradable, so the highest damage range a Giant can get with a Feather Atlatl + Long Javelin is 19~38. I am not 100% accurate since I based this from looking at the KTest.

I still don't understand how can a Giant "Knock down an Enemy with Throwing Attack" if the load time is still 2 seconds. They should have reduced the load time to 1.5 Seconds at least so we can actually Knock Down/Back some enemies.

[Swordslayer]

490 AP o.o;

At least I'll have something to do again~

[Chiri]

More AP than Final Hit whyyyyyyyyyy

[abc33kr]

by the way these aren't really something that ppl care about, but i will add these improvements for people who care

-loading screens added for logging in and switching channels.

-in option you will be able to change the keyboard settings of other games. so that newcomers who are not used to mabi keyboard, but used to WOW, maple, dragon nest, aion, linage, etc keyboard can play mabinogi without having trouble getting used to the keyboard

-the tara npcs who previously were homeless and didn't have a building for their shops now have indoor shops

-the infamous tara bank part time job will always give the fragment to falias

-some generation storyline quests are nerfed so that ppl can beat them easily

-you can look at C3 cutscenes in dunbarton now

[EndlessDreams]

More AP than Final Hit whyyyyyyyyyy

Probably because some players have thousands of free AP with nothing to gain. For those that don't, they will want to play longer to get those AP. Keeps them busy that way.

[Chiri]

Still, it doesn't make sense if AR is the *advanced* range skill, if there's a ranged skill that costs twice as much.

[Kyouriharu]

Crash Shot is for both Humans and Elves.

Does it get buffed as an elf D:

Like double asploshions? That would be amusing.

[Lan]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6lVVbWEF8EM&playnext_from=TL&videos=yP_086TcEEU&feature=sub

[Chiri]

Man, I'm seriously loving crash shot's animation....

But I think all the buffs that elves need is the ability to use the skill in Final Shot.

[Yogurticecream]

Wonderful, something to look forward to in the future.

[Lan]

...going to buy a alienware laptop around December so I can play mabi again ^_^

[Kyouriharu]

So why throw the arrow up? Looks like you can't link it with other Ranged Attacks.

Anyways, not much of a difference yet. If elves don't get a buff with this skill, humans will have the edge over it. The load time seems to be the exact same as well. Though the splash range for the elf's Crash Shot seems larger, it's more plausible it's an animation glitch.

What I'm really psyched for is the Support Shot buff. It weakens enemies for the next hit? Elves, can you say Support to Magnum?

[Chiri]

I think the elf has ranked the skill up in comparison to the human from before.

[Phunkie]

[/B] Also I don't believe that the Atlatls were upgraded to become upgradable, so the highest damage range a Giant can get with a Feather Atlatl + Long Javelin is 19~38. I am not 100% accurate since I based this from looking at the KTest.
Loving the % damage change, but I do hope there's a little damage increase somewhere.

19~38 looks kinda blah. 900% makes it much better, but it still is kinda lacking IMO.

I WANT MORE DAMAGE.

[Bankai231]

Crash Shot...Something to actually look forward to after blaze

[Juno]

900% of 38 is like 304 damage. I'm satisfied with that~

A range boost would be nice though.

[Kyouriharu]

I though it was going to be 900% of your damage with an atali which is going to be buffed with this too? I assumed anyways since they'll be upgradeable.

[Chiri]

It'd be interesting if they released a new giant ranged ego with this...

[Phunkie]

900% of 38 is like 304 damage. I'm satisfied with that~

A range boost would be nice though.

I mean, if it's going compare to Smash or Magnum Shot, it should either be affected somewhat by stats or have a bigger damage range.

[Okami]

I kinda wish I was a giant now.. They look awesome D:

[Tedio]

Gargamaru will weep...in happiness ^_^

Fellow giant mains, let us hold hands and rejoice. For today is the day that we have all validated how badass giants truly are.....I dont want to go all halle berry on you guys, but I have waiting 2000 years for this moment!

Makes me wonder what buff Windbreaker got? lol, can we use any skill in the stance? No knockback?

[Chiri]

760 damage with crit ranged damage on a race that's supposed to be heavy melee? I wouldn't complain too much...

[Swordslayer]

by the way these aren't really something that ppl care about, but i will add these improvements for people who care

-loading screens added for logging in and switching channels.

-in option you will be able to change the keyboard settings of other games. so that newcomers who are not used to mabi keyboard, but used to WOW, maple, dragon nest, aion, linage, etc keyboard can play mabinogi without having trouble getting used to the keyboard

-the tara npcs who previously were homeless and didn't have a building for their shops now have indoor shops

-the infamous tara bank part time job will always give the fragment to falias

-some generation storyline quests are nerfed so that ppl can beat them easily

-you can look at C3 cutscenes in dunbarton now

seriously? AWESOME! I was just talking to my friends about how I miss going into buildings like in tir.

[Phunkie]

Haha, I'm quite content actually. :D

I just want moaaaaaaaaaaaaar

[Lan]

seriously? AWESOME! I was just talking to my friends about how I miss going into buildings like in tir.

Kill ideals.

[Blassreiter]

760 damage with crit ranged damage on a race that's supposed to be heavy melee? I wouldn't complain too much...

Tell that to an Elf who Crit 500 damage with Windmill all around.
Not to mention even though Throwing Attack became stronger, it still is not useful as a main offense like how Melee Elves are possible. Throwing Attack needs a load time decrease. This is the most important IMO so it actually becomes usable especially if a Giant wants to PvP, they can fend themselves against CC+4 Icebolt Wands. At least 1.5 Seconds would suffice. You cannot KB an enemy with Throwing Attack alone, so therefore it is hard to train. You need support from a Pet/Friend to hit an enemy then throw a Javelin to KB it. Also if it really is not implemented, Throwing Attack needs to be buffed by stats. All the Dex we're getting is basically wasted, other than for balance.

[Athde]

The quesion is... What bug will also get implemented with these updates...:doom:

[Phunkie]

Tell that to an Elf who Crit 500 damage with Windmill all around.
Not to mention even though Throwing Attack became stronger, it still is not useful as a main offense like how Melee Elves are possible. Throwing Attack needs a load time decrease. You cannot KB an enemy with Throwing Attack alone, so therefore it is hard to train. You need support from a Pet/Friend to hit an enemy then throw a Javelin to KB it. Also if it really is not implemented, Throwing Attack needs to be buffed by stats. All the Dex we're getting is basically wasted, other than for balance.

Are Koreans unable to KB with Throwing Attack as well? Or is that just here?

Maybe they fixed it with this patch, have you heard anything?

[Blassreiter]

Are Koreans unable to KB with Throwing Attack as well? Or is that just here?

Maybe they fixed it with this patch, have you heard anything?

Throwing Attack's load time is still 2 Seconds. It is impossible to KB something with a 2 Second load time skill because the enemies are not stunned long enough between hits to be KBed.

Well actually I am not 100% certain that the load time is still 2 Seconds. There is a video with the new Throwing Attack in action, but I can't seem to get it to work for me. Here's the video if it works for anyone else: http://channel.pandora.tv/channel/video.ptv?ch_userid=talysa&prgid=37652526&categid=33171383&page=1

[Andy-Buddy]

Isn't Stomp and Ranged Attack load time lowered in G10S2 Rebalancing? I shall research!

[Chiri]

Throwing Attack's load time is still 2 Seconds. It is impossible to KB something with a 2 Second load time skill because the enemies are not stunned long enough between hits to be KBed.

Unless you kill the thing you're attacking in one shot, anyway.

[Phunkie]

Throwing Attack's load time is still 2 Seconds. It is impossible to KB something with a 2 Second load time skill because the enemies are not stunned long enough between hits to be KBed.
I see your point.

Go bold letters!

[Kyouriharu]

No love for the Support Shot buff? Oh come on, it increases the damage of the next hit! Think about it elves, if it's a 50% increase, your next normal shot will be 150% x 2, 300%. If you can load a Magnum, which is plausible, that's a 750% damage.

[Phunkie]

Isn't Stomp and Ranged Attack load time lowered in G10S2 Rebalancing? I shall research!

G10 improved Stomp by a lot and brought in 50 Javelin stacks instead of 20, I think.

The load time for Throwing Attack still remained the same, however.

[Juno]

Support shot buff is nice but I hardly combat on my human anymore and my elf is a mage so...

I'm ok with a two second load time given the instant 99% aim and very high damage. Don't forget that damage enchants apply to TA as well so a 4/2 fox should add 36/18 damage at rank 1. 3 fox enchants means you're breaking 400 damage without a crit...totally worthwhile.

[fathippo]

/is excited ^^

[Blassreiter]

Unless you kill the thing you're attacking in one shot, anyway.

Yes, but how are you supposed to get passed Rank 5 Throwing Attack's training? It's going to be hard to "One Hit K.O. an Awful level enemy", or even find Boss level enemies to kill with a non-KB skill Throwing Attack.

[Phunkie]

When there's a will, there's a way.

[Tedio]

Throwing Attack's load time is still 2 Seconds. It is impossible to KB something with a 2 Second load time skill because the enemies are not stunned long enough between hits to be KBed.

Well actually I am not 100% certain that the load time is still 2 Seconds. There is a video with the new Throwing Attack in action, but I can't seem to get it to work for me. Here's the video if it works for anyone else: [?????] ????, ??? ?? @pandoratv :: The world best high definition, 4HD Pandora TV (http://channel.pandora.tv/channel/video.ptv?ch_userid=talysa&prgid=37652526&categid=33171383&page=1)

It worked for me...

lol, he did like a 91 with Rank E.

[Rime]

Yes, but how are you supposed to get passed Rank 5 Throwing Attack's training? It's going to be hard to "One Hit K.O. an Awful level enemy", or even find Boss level enemies to kill with a non-KB skill Throwing Attack.

Exploit the hee-finish rule ;]

[Blassreiter]

Was the load time about the same? 2 Seconds?


Exploit the hee-finish rule ;]

Yeah, I know that but I just like to pretend it doesn't exist then what to do.

[Elephunt]

The giants look awesome now :D Finally a good update for them. I wonder if pre-giants will be able to rb into those new looks w/o a card D:

[Phunkie]

Giants are BOSS.

Game over.

[Kyouriharu]

...No support shot love >:

/emo-corner

[Axx]

edit: whoops, forgot there was another page of posts. This is in response to Blassreiter's posted video.
He 1 shots a freaking brown fox, so it doesn't tell you much of anything. Also he ranks it from E to D. Although it does appear that your ammo stock of javelins is represented by a number over the skill. He gets kb for a 1hko. Also, I think that if you are at max distance and run away from the mob while reloading, you can get in three hits and the mob will be kb'd on hit three. But I haven't used throwing attack since I capped it a year ago, so that's just guesswork.

[Blassreiter]

edit: whoops, forgot there was another page of posts. This is in response to Blassreiter's posted video.
He 1 shots a freaking brown fox, so it doesn't tell you much of anything. Also he ranks it from E to D. Although it does appear that your ammo stock of javelins is represented by a number over the skill. He gets kb for a 1hko. Also, I think that if you are at max distance and run away from the mob while reloading, you can get in three hits and the mob will be kb'd on hit three. But I haven't used throwing attack since I capped it a year ago, so that's just guesswork.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JIJini_V0HU
Start watching at 8:07 Throwing Attack cannot knockback no matter how many Javelins are pumped into the enemy.

[Phunkie]

I forgot you can run while loading this skill. I'm okay with the loading time now, although 1.5 seconds wouldn't be horrible.

The non-KBs seem like a glitch to me. I mean, it's part of the training requirements. There should be knockbacks.

[pataterose]

you can set party finish to anyone in party and kill it after so it count for knockback also :l

[Phunkie]

you can set party finish to anyone in party and kill it after so it count for knockback also :l

The point is that the skill should knockback if it's part of its requirements, or so I would think.

Screams out GLITCH to me.

[Blassreiter]

I forgot you can run while loading this skill. I'm okay with the loading time now, although 1.5 seconds wouldn't be horrible.

The non-KBs seem like a glitch to me. I mean, it's part of the training requirements. There should be knockbacks.

It is not a glitch. 2 Second load time skills cannot knock back, even if they are spammed. Try spamming 1 shot of Rank F~A Shoot one then load one then repeat. You will never be able to KB anything. Rank 9~1 Icebolt being spammed can KB because it has 1.5 load time.

[Spicyapple]

Crash shot looks awesome o_o

[Axx]

Just means you have to abuse finish rules and pets. Maaaybe also -cp armor.

[Phunkie]

It is not a glitch. 2 Second load time skills cannot knock back, even if they are spammed. Try spamming 1 shot of Rank F~A Shoot one then load one then repeat. You will never be able to KB anything. Rank 9~1 Icebolt being spammed can KB because it has 1.5 load time.

Well here's to hoping that they fixed this. :)

Because having a requirement and not being able to fulfill it quite retarded.

[Blassreiter]

Well here's to hoping that they fixed this. :)

Because having a requirement and not being able to fulfill it quite retarded.

That's exactly how I feel. I know that you can use the Party Finish to All trick to get the KB/Kills for Throwing Attack. My Throw was capped when I had 900+ CP. I'm just ranting on how a training requirement needs you to KB a monster yet you cannot do it only with Throwing Attack itself. They should either decrease Throwing Attack's load time while they can to at least 1.5 Seconds or just remove the "Knockdown an enemy" training requirement and make it easier to train.

[Yogurticecream]

Forgot to say that crash shot is possible archer's AOE attack.
I'm looking forward to that too.

[Majikaru]

The insane AP requirement on crash shot.. eh.
At least it's another source of dex.
Still, though, that thing's going to take me 4 rebirths to get to rank 1 ._.

[Rime]

The point is that the skill should knockback if it's part of its requirements, or so I would think.

Screams out GLITCH to me.

I think this has to do with the amount taken off the enemy's knockback guage per spear throw recharging faster than the launching of subsequent spears. How about having a party mate firebolt the target and then use throwing attack a little after the target gets back up? Alternatively, you can try have 2-3 giants repeatedly hurl spears at the same target. If there's even a small knockback value to each attack, then knockdown should occur.

[Blassreiter]

I think this has to do with the amount taken off the enemy's knockback guage per spear throw recharging faster than the launching of subsequent spears. How about having a party mate firebolt the target and then use throwing attack a little after the target gets back up? Alternatively, you can try have 2-3 giants repeatedly hurl spears at the same target. If there's even a small knockback value to each attack, then knockdown should occur.

The point is that it is stupid how Throwing Attack needs outside assistance for skill training. Yes, every Giant knows how to train Throwing Attack (I hope). Either kill the enemy with melee with Finish to All then kill with Javelin, or have a 2nd character/pet KB the enemy first then quickly shoot a Javelin during their KB animation to KB them.

As I have said, it is impossible to KB an enemy by spamming a 2 Second load time skill. The approximate minimum load time needed for a possible KB is 1.5 seconds in which the 4th hit will KB instead of the 3rd.

[Rime]

DPS is already pretty high with 2-second charge time, so 1.5 might break the skill, no? They can of course reduce the attack percentage to balance things out but that might ruin the skills purpose which, I think, is to be a respectable ranged attack counterpart for giants that is only inferior to humans' and elves' in terms of speed.

Well, before we jump to any further conclusions, have you only been testing the skill with type of atlatli? I remember there being different attack speeds for different atlatli. I'm too lazy to check though.

[BobYoMeowMeow]

ABOUT TIME
there's hasnt been a seasonal update in kr mabi since last year.
:3

[Kazuni]

.. Now I want more henna options for elves. Really.

[Cucurbita]

ABOUT TIME
there's hasnt been a seasonal update in kr mabi since last year.
:3

Because the director left for mabi 2.

New guy got promoted to 3rd mabi director.

[Aubog007]

i despise crash shot's use of mana...
although i didnt notice til i tried to rank it up past A..... considering it gave me Mana as a bonus.

Support shot only affects melee damage (the boost)
unless my korean is mistaken
Although i play the test server...(on occasions like these)

[BobYoMeowMeow]

instead of crash shot, they should've done bomb arrows like from twilight princess

[Kyouriharu]

Support shot only affects melee damage (the boost)
unless my korean is mistaken
Fffffu-
Well not too bad, I still deal above average with Smash, it's just freaking slow to load.

Anyways, anyone wanna double confirm this?

[Aubog007]

ill post screenshots of crash shot and support shot details.
Whoever can fully read it feel free.
http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/4984/mabi20100422021144.png
Literal translation
서포트 샷 이후 추가 근접 공격 대미지 130% = After support shot Additional Close range attack dmg 130%

[Sooni]

^ so says the person with the messy bag. (Sooni)

[Arendel]

The giant remodel looks awesome. I'd actually consider rebirthing my giant back into a male when we get the update.

And yay for support shot getting revived. This whole time, I thought devCAT was going to go on pretending the skill never existed and not bother to make it function properly.

[Tedio]

w-wait..

So giants get their own vito crux? because thats what that armor looks like...
And the improvement to taunt does what?

[Phunkie]

I read that the Master Title of Support Shot allows for 200% damage dealt to a monster that's been weakened.

And yeah, it only affects melee damage apparently.

So, 900% Smash anyone? 8D

[Kyouriharu]

I read that the Master Title of Support Shot allows for 200% damage dealt to a monster that's been weakened.

And yeah, it only affects melee damage apparently.

So, 900% Smash anyone? 8D

That's... pretty awesome :D

So much tears... so beautiful... should have sent... a poet

[Athde]

Crash shot for elves only or humans as well?

[Mabbi]

Crash shot for elves only or humans as well?

For both, luckily ^~^

and... those giants are hot Q.Q holy, that's one NICE makeover!

[Athde]

I KNOW!!! The male giants actually look more.... Hot... They're not like fat, but... Athletic O.O Look like giant school boys XD (No homo)

[Xhyros]

That's exactly how I feel. I know that you can use the Party Finish to All trick to get the KB/Kills for Throwing Attack. My Throw was capped when I had 900+ CP. I'm just ranting on how a training requirement needs you to KB a monster yet you cannot do it only with Throwing Attack itself. They should either decrease Throwing Attack's load time while they can to at least 1.5 Seconds or just remove the "Knockdown an enemy" training requirement and make it easier to train.

What about using ice bolt on your target 2-3x and then using a throwing attack?

[Melchinoir]

What do people think about the 3 second load time on Crash Shot? 3 seconds to load the skill and then additional time to aim seems like it's over shadowed by Magum Shot honestly. :<

[Axx]

What about using ice bolt on your target 2-3x and then using a throwing attack?

2 second load time will ensure that the target recovers from the icebolt KB before you can hit it.


What do people think about the 3 second load time on Crash Shot? 3 seconds to load the skill and then additional time to aim seems like it's over shadowed by Magum Shot honestly. :<
Eh, magnum is more for single target damage, crash shot as AoE, maybe like a safer (because of the distance), less damaging windmill? More useful for elves, of course.

[Fumy]

Eh, magnum is more for single target damage, crash shot as AoE, maybe like a safer (because of the distance), less damaging windmill? More useful for elves, of course.

First we gotta see howmuch dmg it deals :S if its weaker than MM or Magnum Splash its only good for the dex and MP.

[EndlessDreams]

Yes, but how are you supposed to get passed Rank 5 Throwing Attack's training? It's going to be hard to "One Hit K.O. an Awful level enemy", or even find Boss level enemies to kill with a non-KB skill Throwing Attack.

Knockback doesn't mean you have to kill the monster in one hit. Basically it is either ... well knockback, or kill the monster. You can WM, Smash or whatever, and on party finish set to all, finish with a Javelin. It is like bolt training.


First we gotta see howmuch dmg it deals :S if its weaker than MM or Magnum Splash its only good for the dex and MP.

At worse, it will be like Final Shot/Hit in which most people get it for the +stats, at best it will be a skill that range users use often.

Although elf 0.5 magnum vs that new skill's 3.0 second load, magnum seems more useful. Maybe.

[Joker]

Originally Posted by Blassreiter
"That's exactly how I feel. I know that you can use the Party Finish to All trick to get the KB/Kills for Throwing Attack. My Throw was capped when I had 900+ CP. I'm just ranting on how a training requirement needs you to KB a monster yet you cannot do it only with Throwing Attack itself. They should either decrease Throwing Attack's load time while they can to at least 1.5 Seconds or just remove the "Knockdown an enemy" training requirement and make it easier to train."

Well its easily Done with a pet... cause if you've even spent like 5 mins training it , you would know that it is easy to knockdown

[Kyouriharu]

Although elf 0.5 magnum vs that new skill's 3.0 second load, magnum seems more useful. Maybe.
Exactly why this skill is pretty meh for an elf if there is no elf buff for it. Though it depends how much better it looks at rank 1.

[Juno]

The splash range on crash shot is immensely huge compared to magnum shot. It also doesn't KB anything but the target and possibly not that either. I can see a myriad of uses despite the load time.

[Rime]

The damage to each of the enemies caught in the explosions seems pretty devastating too and these enemies aren't provoked into aggro. Perhaps it'll be useful to severely cripple mutli-aggro monsters. I also see there's a cool down period in-between volleys of crash arrow. Maybe it works like wind cannon in that respect.

[Sooni]

Crash shot does more damage as more enemys are hit by the shrapnels that it sprays out, also at rank 1 the splash of crash shots shrapnels is almost room wide, so tells the story of someone in kr test server.

[Kyouriharu]

The damage to each of the enemies caught in the explosions seems pretty devastating too and these enemies aren't provoked into aggro. Perhaps it'll be useful to severely cripple mutli-aggro monsters. I also see there's a cool down period in-between volleys of crash arrow. Maybe it works like wind cannon in that respect.
This <3


Crash shot does more damage as more enemys are hit by the shrapnels that it sprays out, also at rank 1 the splash of crash shots shrapnels is almost room wide, so tells the story of someone in kr test server.
And this <3

Okay my confidence is restored for this skill. However, does the damage increase exponentially with each enemy or not? The damage at rank F looks a little unimpressive at three mobs, even for a character right out of creation, according to the video that Lan fished out. But the first video, it does decent damage out of creation in a pool of 6. Yeah I'm hard to please (still say elves should have two asplosions for double boom-boom).

[Iyasenu]

OMG GIMME THIS STUFF NOW!!!!
@_@ Too.... awesome... blargh....

Why can't we all have the same stuff :cryno:

[Chiri]

Because then we wouldn't have updates for ~4 months, like those poor KR players.

[Iyasenu]

Because then we wouldn't have updates for ~4 months, like those poor KR players.

D:
Meh, but they get it hot off the press.
We get old news, late.
And sometimes more boxified items xD

But I still want this D:
I can want all I want to but this update is still very far away @_@

Waaaaaaant :no!:

[Ketchup]

Awesome new archer skill:thumb:
looks like they are finally giving giants some love.

[Blassreiter]

What the hell. I heard that there's a 25 SECOND COOLDOWN FOR THROWING ATTACK. Are they serious...?? If this is true, the old Throwing Attack is way more better even if it's weaker.


쿨타임 25초. 수련횟수 4,000번?? (25 Seconds cooldown, with the training requirement for 4000 number of times hit on Boss??)

Edit: Yes, it exists. Throwing Attack fails more now watch near the end:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uDSXtcFLDsw

[Kyouriharu]

I noticed that Smash loaded way too slow for a giant.

The new sword wielding stance is <3

[Rime]

So is it a one-shot deal now, or can you spam a few before cooldown kicks in?
I was too lazy to check since I'm on slow internet right now and it took me about five minutes to stream two minutes of that giant showing off and whatnot.

[Blassreiter]

So is it a one-shot deal now, or can you spam a few before cooldown kicks in?
I was too lazy to check since I'm on slow internet right now and it took me about five minutes to stream two minutes of that giant showing off and whatnot.

It's a one shot. It's just like Charge, except it has a 25 second cooldown instead of a 10 second cooldown. This is definitely harder to train now.

[Rime]

Oh, that's not too bad actually. I was afraid that giants would get a 2-second ranged attack that could out-damage chaincast fireball lol

[Blassreiter]

Oh, that's not too bad actually. I was afraid that giants would get a 2-second ranged attack that could out-damage chaincast fireball lol

Elves already have a 0.5 Second load time Magnum Shot.

[Chiri]

chaincast fireball...? fireball has 2-3k damage, giants aren't getting anything like that.

[Rime]

Elves are elves. They're build specifically for ranged combat, but to balance out their short loading time for skills, like elf ranged attack and magnum, they have low aim rate. .5 seconds becomes 3-4 seconds before the actual attack is fired, with a chance of missing. They can, of course, zone in on the enemy to fire quick shots, but humans and giants can already do that efficiently, and some times more safely, with their melee skills.


chaincast fireball...? fireball has 2-3k damage, giants aren't getting anything like that.
I meant firebolt DX

[Blassreiter]

Elves are elves. They're build specifically for ranged combat, but to balance out their short loading time for skills, like elf ranged attack and magnum, they have low aim rate. .5 seconds becomes 3-4 seconds before the actual attack is fired, with a chance of missing. They can, of course, zone in on the enemy to fire quick shots, but humans and giants can already do that efficiently, and some times more safely, with their melee skills.


I meant firebolt DX


Tell that to an Elf who Crit 500 damage with Windmill all around.

I don't know what else to say.
Here's a video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lrHK3jXm4EE

[Rime]

I can crit 1.7k all around? Looks like that elf is one that is nearing the limits of his melee potential. Giants and humans can do much better with dual wield.

[EndlessDreams]

Elf doing 500 critical really isn't much compared to the other classes which can critical WM for 1-2k+ easily.
If anything, the Elf can WM critical higher than 500 critical...

The 25 second cooldown is indeed lol. Throwing Javelin is going to be really annoying to train.

[Kyouriharu]

Elf doing 500 critical really isn't much compared to the other classes which can critical WM for 1-2k+ easily.
If anything, the Elf can WM critical higher than 500 critical...

The 25 second cooldown is indeed lol. Throwing Javelin is going to be really annoying to train.

Elf with 2k Critical Elfmill here.

All I have is horrible luck nailing criticalmills.

[Rime]

Elf with 2k Critical Elfmill here.

All I have is horrible luck nailing criticalmills.

lolwat You mean Elf smash, right? I haven't seen you break 1k with your windmills yet ;/

[Kyouriharu]

lolwat You mean Elf smash, right. I haven't seen you break 1k with your windmills yet ;/

*checks calculator*

WHOOPS, CRITICAL MULTIPLIER IS x2.5 NOT x5. Okay okay. 1k Criticalmills.

[Arsik]

All I can say is, glad I got Throwing Attack capped as soon as I can. It seems like it's going to be hell for new Giants and Giants that put the skill off to the side because it isn't that good now. But I guarantee you that G12S3 or whatever devCAT's next update is, it will probably reduce the time from 25 to a lot less, or at least have the cooldown time go down with rank. I see no reason as to how it can take someone 25 seconds to load an Atlatl, unless the person has never seen an Atlatl in their life and told to attack a dummy with no instruction what-so-ever.

[Blassreiter]

Well, the point I am trying to make is that why are Elves who are suppose to be bad at melee are more better at melee compared to giants who are supposed to be bad in their "so called ranged attack"?

[Kyouriharu]

Giant: N+Smash
Elf: .....WTF D:

[Chiri]

Giants are underbalanced. This is why, for the most part, only people who enjoy a challenge play giants.

[Lan]

er Giants don't need Ranged attacks? They are masters of Melee and if they want to, can be competent at Magic.

[Blassreiter]

My big irritation is how they grabbed a skill that was dead for 6 Generations and tried to apparently "buff it up" but only to kill it even more. You can't even get this past Rank A at this rate, but at least everything is still in Test Server status so there might be changes.

[Rime]

Still in the test server? I thought it was already released. Well, people were acting like it was lol

[jark007]

Meh i say elves (or humans) and giants work together and get support shot+throwing attack and everyone's happy :D

[Discord]

1800% damage O_O

[Aubog007]

I can see crash shot's potential in late game. Obviously at early game like most skills it is rather useless against high end mobs (although it is fun to use).

Only way you can truly see it's damage is with good gear and a good player using it.

I can't really depict that in the test server since I don't arch anything... ever...

[Phunkie]

Oh that's right, this is the Test Server.

Watch them get rid of that stupid cooldown and maybe even realize that you can't KB with Throwing Attack alone.

Honestly, the skill isn't even THAT great for one to give it a cooldown. It's like giving Smash a cooldown time.

Very silly.

[Juno]

Even if you're giving something a cooldown...25 seconds? Seriously?

[Hazeri]

Even if you're giving something a cooldown...25 seconds? Seriously?

There are games with 1 day cooldowns, that's overkill.
I don't like the giant renewal, they bishified what once was a proud race of manly beef and, as someone said earlier, paedofied their Women. Then, adding insult to Injury they added face tatoos. Those better be effing optional.
-rep to devcat.

[Juno]

They are optional, and the male rework made them...believable. Before it was strange they could even move or turn around.

The female rework...I was against it at first but after seeing char select it's not so bad. You don't have to look like an overgrown baby if you don't want to.

[Kurezan]

There are games with 1 day cooldowns, that's overkill.
I don't like the giant renewal, they bishified what once was a proud race of manly beef and, as someone said earlier, paedofied their Women. Then, adding insult to Injury they added face tatoos. Those better be effing optional.
-rep to devcat.

I don't think they look half bad.

[December]

Woah woah woah, cool giant in vito crux, I'd be tempted to switch but then I'd have to go through refine again:cryno: (desire to use new emoticons) :)

Also is that railgun ranged attack for humans too?

[Phunkie]

New muscles for Giants. :)


http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/8728/4227859.jpg

[Shironi]

25 seconds cooldown ... Dayum, I was all fired up for the first 10 pages, but really? There goes my dream of one day rafting on my giant without needing to adv magic.

[Hazeri]

They are optional, and the male rework made them...believable. Before it was strange they could even move or turn around.

The female rework...I was against it at first but after seeing char select it's not so bad. You don't have to look like an overgrown baby if you don't want to.
Slim male giants down? I agree. But devcat went overboard and turned them into craptastic pieces of yaoibaitkoreanidoltypicalasianbishiecreepyidolfang irlwetdream no, ugh, no. They killed giants for me.


I don't think they look half bad.
And I think they look like crap, but i respect you opinion though i disagree with it =)

[Juno]

I agree, I don't like the super young look they have now...though it fits better with the game and is the lesser of two evils between the old and new.

I can totally understand not liking it at all though.

[abc33kr]

I agree, I don't like the super young look they have now...though it fits better with the game and is the lesser of two evils between the old and new.

I can totally understand not liking it at all though.

in fact forums in korea are bawwwing about how the new giant look messed up giants

[Tedio]

Waaaaaabufet!

(No 6 pack?)

[Yogurticecream]

Nvm about the muscles, the question would be how giants will look like with clothing on, I think that's more important.
Especially since giants have a lack of clothing to go with the old look.

[Crimmy]

Some pics have been uploaded by Vejosa of the new giant models coughmodscough on the Nexon forums (http://forum.nexon.net/Mabinogi/forums/4621116/ShowThread.aspx). I got my char's, along with several other giants, pics taken to see and omigoodness I want this so bad. They look so cool with the new poses and stuff. < (http://www.axiomfiles.com/Files/342567/Picture1.jpg)3 (http://www.axiomfiles.com/Files/342567/Picture2.jpg)

Thanks to Vej for the pics, of course.

[Elephunt]

My shoulderpads look messed up in that pic ^. D: The new giant muscles make them look like very tall humans now. ._.

[Kayalomy]

Nvm about the muscles, the question would be how giants will look like with clothing on, I think that's more important.
Especially since giants have a lack of clothing to go with the old look.

Thats one of the main reasons I'm supporting this remodel. With the new look, male giants can look better in clothing than we do now.

[Crimmy]

Your shoulder pads look messed up because you're 100% fat, Ele. xD

If you were normal sized I bet you'd look pretty cool in the new model. :P

[Saffielia]

Hmm. I do enjoy the cooking. And the eating. ~

[Kyouriharu]

If someone modded Magnum Shot's aiming animation to Crash Shot, I'd be a happy camper.

[Aubog007]

If someone modded Magnum Shot's aiming animation to Crash Shot, I'd be a happy camper.

Knowing them, they probably already have
I should see what the crossbow animation for that is...

[♪★ Scandalous ☆ ♫]

Didn't read through the whole thread, but maybe this giant renewal means giants can wear -cp wizard suits now.
Since they were pretty much gimp when it comes to -cp options before...unless you can pump out basic spaika/rose plates like crazy.

[Sooni]

note 300% dmg as F rank of toss javvy. note R1 of javvy throw like wut 500? 800%? iono numbers go meaningless

[Health]

What they should have done was make javelins have a similar effect to Magnum Shot. As in it's blockable but has knock back on hit.

Decrease the damage % and decrease/remove the cooldown time. 25 seconds? Really?

It's so useless now. At least before it was possible to javelin -> counter

[Chiyosuke]

Im up for new giant models 100%, i mean they can wear all kinds of new stuff now :o
(giant dustin anyone heh....i can dream right?)

[Crazed420]

This is made of win. A lot of win.

All the more reason for me to get started on a giant alt.