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Byte
10-14-2010, 12:59 PM
This post is to allow you Nationers to know we've revamped our infraction system.



["10 Day(s)" is how long said infraction takes to expire]

Backseat moderating
1 Point 10 Day(s)

Breaking marketplace rules
1 Point 5 Day(s)

Minor flaming/insulting of a member
1 Point 15 Day(s)

Repeated minor offences (ex: necro posting)
1 Point 30 Day(s)

Spamming
1 Point 10 Day(s)

Posting innapropriate content as determined by staff
2 Point 15 Day(s)

Disobeying or disrespecting staff
3 Point 30 Day(s)

Serious flaming/insulting of other member
5 Point 30 Day(s)

Posting content that is obviously not allowed (ex: nudity)
10 Point 60 Day(s)




Points Infractions Ban Period
10 3 Day(s)
20 2 Week(s)
30 Forever
15 1 Month(s)
30 Forever

The above charts tell you how many points you will receive, and how long you'll receive a ban after accumulating enough points. I'll explain the ban system:

If you accumulate 10 points, you'll receive a 3 day ban.
If you accumulate 20 points, you'll receive a 2 week ban.
If you accumulate 30 points you'll receive a permanent ban.
If your grand total of infractions reach 15, you'll receive a one month ban.
If your grand total of infractions reach 30, you'll receive a permaban.

We the staff of Mabination do have the right to ban you without going through the infraction process, but this will NEVER happen without serious discussion in the staff section.

If you feel you have been wronged by a staff member, contact Arsik (http://mabination.com/members/arsik.html) , Falsetto (http://mabination.com/members/falsetto.html), or Osayidan (http://mabination.com/members/osayidan.html) and explain to them why you should have not received the punishment.

Thanks,

Byte

Time
10-14-2010, 03:53 PM
Do we find out if we get an infraction?

Hitaki
10-14-2010, 03:59 PM
Ew an infraction system.

Ruquion
10-14-2010, 04:21 PM
y u du dis??/

Byte
10-14-2010, 04:56 PM
Do we find out if we get an infraction?

You receive a PM.


Ew an infraction system.

Ew Pikablu<3


y u du dis??/

It needed to be done.

Science
10-14-2010, 05:20 PM
Soooo... I get banned forever for making 3 porn threads?

Cannibal
10-14-2010, 05:28 PM
I see a lot of 3-day bans in EVERY ONE's future. I could say more, but I'll hold my tongue there.

Byte
10-14-2010, 05:50 PM
Soooo... I get banned forever for making 3 porn threads?

Yes... but if you're new and do it you'll probably just be banned. :)


I see a lot of 3-day bans in EVERY ONE's future. I could say more, but I'll hold my tongue there.

How so? It's hard to get 10 points, I give like 3/week thats a bad week >.>

Cannibal
10-14-2010, 05:55 PM
How so? It's hard to get 10 points, I give like 3/week thats a bad week >.>
Ah, I'll apologize. I don't think I'm seeing correctly today, and I didn't get much sleep last night. I could have sworn that instead of 1 point, those said 10 points.

Osayidan
10-14-2010, 05:56 PM
Don't forget that infractions expire so if you do something stupid just learn from it and it'll be reversed in the specified time period.

Okitaru
10-14-2010, 07:36 PM
Serious flaming/insulting of other member 5 Point 30 Day(s)

So, I can't pick on Brad then?
Mmm, acceptable I suppose.

Science
10-14-2010, 07:37 PM
ysouglykazu?

banmenow :D

Osayidan
10-14-2010, 07:37 PM
Serious flaming/insulting of other member 5 Point 30 Day(s)

So, I can't pick on Brad then?
Mmm, acceptable I suppose.

We also accept bribes...
Avoid the traditional sack with a dollar sign on it though it's too obvious.

Kazuni
10-14-2010, 07:38 PM
ysouglykazu?

banmenow :D

Shut up Panda >:U

Chockeh
10-14-2010, 07:40 PM
We also accept bribes...
Avoid the traditional sack with a dollar sign on it though it's too obvious.
So you accept briebs?
What kind of currency will you take?

Osayidan
10-14-2010, 07:43 PM
So you accept briebs?
What kind of currency will you take?

Precious metals, human souls and land. :awesome:

Kazuni
10-14-2010, 07:47 PM
Precious metals, human souls and land. :awesome:

Also, we accept information on where the Banshields are hidden.

TURN ON YOUR NEIGHBOURS, EVERYONE.

Mentosftw
10-14-2010, 08:43 PM
So this is like a leveling up system but instead of leveling you get banned.

Taycat
10-14-2010, 08:45 PM
You forgot 1 week bans.

The ONLY Infractions I have are one that expires today and the others are on trolling and....bypassing something.

I forget.

woohoohelloppl
10-14-2010, 08:49 PM
I have a question.
Is necro-posting allowed in Bean Rua?


EDIT :: 1k posts! :awesome:

Byte
10-14-2010, 08:52 PM
So this is like a leveling up system but instead of leveling you get banned.

Sure...


You forgot 1 week bans.

The ONLY Infractions I have are one that expires today and the others are on trolling and....bypassing something.

I forget.

Um, no we didn't. :)

Yes, but 10 more you get a 1 month ban. You also have two that never expire.


I have a question.
Is necro-posting allowed in Bean Rua?


EDIT :: 1k posts! :awesome:

Yes, but no, but yes. We'll lock it if we want I guess ^^;

woohoohelloppl
10-14-2010, 08:58 PM
Yes, but no, but yes. We'll lock it if we want I guess ^^;

But won't we get an infraction? XD

Byte
10-14-2010, 09:00 PM
But won't we get an infraction? XD

Nope.

starpaw7
10-14-2010, 09:02 PM
It sounds efficient http://www.laymark.com/i/o/02.gif

(PM) How many infractions do I have :what:


But won't we get an infraction? XD

OH GOODNESS :scare:

Taycat
10-14-2010, 09:04 PM
I don't even remember why there's one about bypassing something.

Either I bypassed a language filter or it was a boob picture.

I don't know since I don't have proof.

Also, by deleting the proof, that gives no reason to infract the person due to there being no proof, yes?

Without proof, it's wrong, isn't it?

starpaw7
10-14-2010, 09:05 PM
I don't even remember why there's one about bypassing something.

Either I bypassed a language filter or it was a boob picture.

I don't know since I don't have proof.

Also, by deleting the proof, that gives no reason to infract the person due to there being no proof, yes?

Without proof, it's wrong, isn't it?

I would say no to that; like how some bots come in and post pornographic things :what:

Kazuni
10-14-2010, 09:06 PM
I don't even remember why there's one about bypassing something.

Either I bypassed a language filter or it was a boob picture.

I don't know since I don't have proof.

Also, by deleting the proof, that gives no reason to infract the person due to there being no proof, yes?

Without proof, it's wrong, isn't it?

Are you saying we shouldn't infract you just because we deleted something you posted that was inappropriate?

Taycat
10-14-2010, 09:08 PM
Are you saying we shouldn't infract you just because we deleted something you posted that was inappropriate?

Perhaps I should rethink things before I post, lol.

Or maybe picture proof? So we can reflect on it and only we can see it?

I mean, you screencap, upload to tinypic, and then post it in our infraction PM.

Byte
10-14-2010, 09:10 PM
It sounds efficient http://www.laymark.com/i/o/02.gif

(PM) How many infractions do I have :what:



OH GOODNESS :scare:

You have... Zero.


I don't even remember why there's one about bypassing something.

Either I bypassed a language filter or it was a boob picture.

I don't know since I don't have proof.

Also, by deleting the proof, that gives no reason to infract the person due to there being no proof, yes?

Without proof, it's wrong, isn't it?

You posted a Video that Zeph deemed inappropriate. I can still see the thread, but the video itself isn't there(it was edited out).

Also, you shouldn't need clarification you did something wrong in the past, you did it once, I hope you wouldn't do it again.

Kazuni
10-14-2010, 09:12 PM
Perhaps I should rethink things before I post, lol.

Or maybe picture proof? So we can reflect on it and only we can see it?

I mean, you screencap, upload to tinypic, and then post it in our infraction PM.

You should know what you did that was inappropriate, since we always warn/infract promptly after it's posted.

And plus, that's a lot of trouble for every single warning/infraction ._.

Taycat
10-14-2010, 09:18 PM
You should know what you did that was inappropriate, since we always warn/infract promptly after it's posted.

And plus, that's a lot of trouble for every single warning/infraction ._.

My memory is terrible.

I was harassed by a girl in alby arena forever and a day for something that happened a year ago that I simply cannot remember. :T_T:

Byte
10-14-2010, 09:19 PM
My memory is terrible.

I was harassed by a girl in alby arena forever and a day for something that happened a year ago that I simply cannot remember. :T_T:

I've had the same thing happen, so it's okay.

Taycat
10-14-2010, 09:22 PM
I've had the same thing happen, so it's okay.

And besides, I know a thing or two about unfair infractions.

I have one on another forum that I was told was supposed to expire.

IT IS STILL THERE.

Oh and may I suggest something?

Maybe a infraction will go away after a year IF the member did not receive any other?

The site mentioned above does this and I rarely see anyone, other than the occasional bot, post lewd things anymore.

Byte
10-14-2010, 09:26 PM
And besides, I know a thing or two about unfair infractions.

I have one on another forum that I was told was supposed to expire.

IT IS STILL THERE.

Oh and may I suggest something?

Maybe a infraction will go away after a year IF the member did not receive any other?

The site mentioned above does this and I rarely see anyone, other than the occasional bot, post lewd things anymore.

I'll reverse them seeing as they're 4 months old and don't follow our current infraction system.

Consider them "expired".

Moppy
10-14-2010, 09:29 PM
Good to see an infraction system I understand and will use more.

Taycat
10-14-2010, 09:34 PM
I'll reverse them seeing as they're 4 months old and don't follow our current infraction system.

Consider them "expired".

Now I just need to act right ._.

/sometimes inappropriate

Time
10-14-2010, 10:18 PM
Good to see an infraction system I understand and will use more.
You dont need to understand it, your a super mod.

woohoohelloppl
10-14-2010, 10:31 PM
Hmm...you guys could attach a quote of the post like BasilMarket does for proof.

Byte
10-14-2010, 10:49 PM
Hmm...you guys could attach a quote of the post like BasilMarket does for proof.

You get PMs with a quote if it wasn't edited first.

Phunkie
10-15-2010, 01:59 AM
Also, just wanted to include that, if by any chance you receive an infraction and you don't understand exactly why, first PM the moderator who gave you the infraction for a clarification. If you still disagree, then PM Falsetto, Osayidan or Arsik.

Running off to another moderator is silly, especially when that person may not understand the situation you're involved with.

Be civil and be respectful, of course. Why should anyone listen to you if you're just yelling and screaming out foul words after receiving an infraction?


Minor insults or flaming don't include jokeful or playful behavior between people. Pikablu and Shirayuki are always joking around with each other, not flaming each other. That is fine, IMO. If you receive such an infraction for joking around with a friend, just PM the moderator who gave ya the infraction and clarify things. It'll definitely be reversed.

Etc., etc.

None of the moderators are out to get you. Don't let this infraction system scare you.

Kazuni
10-15-2010, 02:03 AM
Also, just wanted to include that, if by any chance you receive an infraction and you don't understand exactly why, first PM the moderator who gave you the infraction for a clarification. If you still disagree, then PM Falsetto, Osayidan or Arsik.

Running off to another moderator is silly, especially when that person may not understand the situation you're involved with.

I agreeeeeeeeeeeeee.

Liraiyu
10-16-2010, 08:21 PM
So this is like a leveling up system but instead of leveling you get banned.

And once you get banned you escape from the hell known as Mabination.

Iyasenu
10-20-2010, 11:40 AM
Also, just wanted to include that, if by any chance you receive an infraction and you don't understand exactly why, first PM the moderator who gave you the infraction for a clarification. If you still disagree, then PM Falsetto, Osayidan or Arsik.

Running off to another moderator is silly, especially when that person may not understand the situation you're involved with.

Be civil and be respectful, of course. Why should anyone listen to you if you're just yelling and screaming out foul words after receiving an infraction?


Minor insults or flaming don't include jokeful or playful behavior between people. Pikablu and Shirayuki are always joking around with each other, not flaming each other. That is fine, IMO. If you receive such an infraction for joking around with a friend, just PM the moderator who gave ya the infraction and clarify things. It'll definitely be reversed.

Etc., etc.

All the mods are out to get you. You should be afraid. Very, very afraid!

Oho, but seriously I came to ask a question about an infraction.
What's "backseat moderating"?
I can't remember if I know what that is...

Chiri
10-20-2010, 11:42 AM
Basically it's telling other members what the rules are.
Mods want to lay the smack down themselves, so they won't let us peasant users get involved.

Phunkie
10-20-2010, 11:43 AM
Oho, but seriously I came to ask a question about an infraction.
What's "backseat moderating"?
I can't remember if I know what that is...

When you assume the role of a moderator and correct people when they make mistakes.

"don't double post"
"wrong forum."
"you just necro'ed a 3-year-old-dead thread. good job"

Etc., etc.

The reason why it's against the rules, is because the moderators here have had problems with it before. Both here and at the Guru, if I remember correctly. It was back in the Guru where they first established this non-backseat-modding rule.

Backseat modding just often leads to bigger arguments and possible flaming.

See this thread (http://mabination.com/mabinogi/mabinogi-talk/11288-some-infos-mabi-2-a.html).

Iyasenu
10-20-2010, 11:45 AM
When you assume the role of a moderator and correct people when they make mistakes.

"don't double post"
"wrong forum."
"you just necro'ed a 3-year-old-dead thread. good job"

Etc., etc.

The reason why it's against the rules, is because the moderators here have had problems with it before. Both here and at the Guru, if I remember correctly. It was back in the Guru where they first established this non-backseat-modding rule.

wowzers!
people do that all the time, though D:

Phunkie
10-20-2010, 11:48 AM
wowzers!
people do that all the time, though D:

See this thread (http://mabination.com/mabinogi/mabinogi-talk/11288-some-infos-mabi-2-a.html).

Iyasenu
10-20-2010, 11:50 AM
See this thread (http://mabination.com/mabinogi/mabinogi-talk/11288-some-infos-mabi-2-a.html).

that's an example, right?

I wonder how many times i've done this...
I've gotta keep this in mind. D:

Those kind of responses slip out easily, so we gotta watch out and let ya'll do it, eh?

Osayidan
10-20-2010, 11:52 AM
For every occasion someone thinks of backseat modding they could have clicked the report button instead.

Phunkie
10-20-2010, 11:54 AM
that's an example, right?

I wonder how many times i've done this...
I've gotta keep this in mind. D:

Those kind of responses slip out easily, so we gotta watch out and let ya'll do it, eh?

Ah, don't worry about it. It's not a top priority on our list, unless it becomes annoying to the rest of the community.

:P


For every occasion someone thinks of backseat modding they could have clicked the report button instead.

Good point.

Byte
10-21-2010, 02:42 PM
For every occasion someone thinks of backseat modding they could have clicked the report button instead.

I... backseat mod + click report button. :D