What skills should I rank as an Evie? Suggestions

[Tablo]

disappointed.

[Tablo]

place holda. may or may not need it but just to stay safe

[heretic304]

Rank A - Intelligence Mastery (790 AP)
Boosts permanent intelligence. This means a few things:
1) Damage increase for your spells
2) Faster Mana Recovery
3) Helps meditation (wut?)
4) Increased weight capability


2 is incorrect. There is no mana in this game, first of all. Secondly, if you meant stamina recovery, that is covered by Agility.
3 means that every 7 int you have reduces the amount of time you have to wait for the 1 AP from meditation by 1 second.
4 means it increases her ability to carry heavier objects in battle, not to be confused with the amount of stones she can carry for her equipment.

[Tablo]

2 is incorrect. There is no mana in this game, first of all. Secondly, if you meant stamina recovery, that is covered by Agility.
3 means that every 7 int you have reduces the amount of time you have to wait for the 1 AP from meditation by 1 second.
4 means it increases her ability to carry heavier objects in battle, not to be confused with the amount of stones she can carry for her equipment.

i was thinking mana shield, not stamina
well i do know what meditation does...it's just really pointless lol

yes, I will edit to clear those things up

[TA]

Scythe:
Intelligence Mastery: A
Magic Mastery: A
Strength Mastery: A
Smash Mastery: A
Combat Mastery
Critical Hit
Magic Crit

And Scythe skills, but we don't have those yet.

[PandaSong]

Staff Evies should only prioritize Healing if they want to go the Support path. If you don't like healing, don't get it past E. It still covers the basics of healing yourself easily enough (not to mention it costs money if you don't have the rune generator). Magic Arrow, Magic Mastery, Firebolt, Eagle Talons, Magic Crit, Stamina Recovery and Intelligence Mastery should be the mains if you want to be pure damage type.

So in other words.. There's two ways you can go at first if you concentrate on the Staff. Eventually it'll be all upped, but until then..

[heretic304]

Well in regard to the mana shields, I'm pretty sure mine haven't regenerated any faster now with over 700 INT, than it did when I first started out, but I may have to go test that out sometime and see >_>

[sakraycore]

this guide should not be made by someone who thinks Evie sucks >_>

[Science]

this guide should not be made by someone who thinks Evie sucks >_>

He doesn't necessarily think Evy sucks, but rather that she sucks at certain things. :p And if you think Evy is so OMIGODSOSEXYANDPRO, make a guide.

[Ruquion]

If you think that staff Evies are useless for offense then why are you telling people to get offensive skills?
Magic Arrow, Firebolt, Magic Critical and Magic Mastery are all pointless if you're going support.
And as support, wearing Heavy Armor and maximizing defense will be a better idea as Heals aren't affected by MATT.

[PandaSong]

Technically a support Evy would have to raise at least one damage skill, unless you don't mind partying all the time (and you'd have to leave the solo BP out). But yeah, Ruquion is right, Heavy Armor (when we can) for a Support is better.

[Tablo]

If you think that staff Evies are useless for offense then why are you telling people to get offensive skills?
Magic Arrow, Firebolt, Magic Critical and Magic Mastery are all pointless if you're going support.
And as support, wearing Heavy Armor and maximizing defense will be a better idea as Heals aren't affected by MATT.

why not? if one wants to make an aggressive evie, they are free to do so (that's what I'm going). Besides, ap isn't limited. I have clearly stated that you're free to do whatever you want, this is only a suggestion, a simple "build order." You will be maxing the skills towards end game anyway. This guide is for those who are completely lost as they start the game. If you really want to enjoy the evie class (which is the reason im playing the damn game), going full support is definitely not the way to go. You're not getting any piece of the action, and the game is really about the action. In fact, going full support is just dumb as hell.
If you want to focus on support, you rush to rA heal, but that doesn't mean that you HAVE to go support.
Who said this "skill-tree" is for support staff-evies? This is an early game "skill tree." Towards mid-late game, yes, these skills may prove to be absolutely useless once you start seeing the damage of other classes. You'll even feel bad that you're cluttering up the party and lagging everyone with your firebolt. "Oh, I didn't bring enough heals for the party." "Oops, I died again." THEN you make the transition. Early in the game, if you're in a good party, no one needs your damn heal, and no one is dumb enough to not bring potions to battles. No one will out damage your firebolt. Evie is a very strong class early in the game. I'm trying to maximize this potential. Maybe I haven't explained myself fully in the op. I was rushing the guide, and as I have wrote down, it is incomplete. Thanks for pointing that out.

Oh, to Sakraycore, just because the character sucks doesn't mean that people shouldn't play it :D. Evie sucks, but I play evie for fun. Now let me explain my word choice of "sucks." In terms of DPS, evie sucks compared to other classes. In terms of efficiency, evie is really stuck going either way (support+damage). But hey, I love the class. It sure takes damn long to kill the bosses, but I really don't mind. I'm just worried about the late-game-evie. Especially staff-evies ):

going to update the guide with some scythe skills, thanks to tasha for the suggestions :D. Mind if I put that up on the op?

[Sora]

Oh, to Sakraycore, just because the character sucks doesn't mean that people shouldn't play it :D

Reading this thread, I understand that you agree that Evie sawks, so I sir, obviously seeing that you made this thread to pretty much make arguments, and to demean Evie players, will make completely valid statements like yourself.

Lann sucks cause all he can do is DPS and can't stun down Bosses.

That is what I see from you, so why don't you just stop and start making actually useful posts on Mabination, because I really would love to see this NOT turn into the Nexon Official Forums. I've seen alot of bawling around lately, it's quite annoying and about the most useless things. People are so obsessed about DPS and what not and forgot how fun it is to play.

Edit: Sorry about the not so very constructive post.

[PandaSong]

In fact, going full support is just dumb as hell. >_> Excuse me, I went full support but I still had enough AP to put into Magic Arrow.

I believe what we're trying to say is -- Some of those you have posted up there are not needed for certain types. This is a suggestions guide, so put up two "types" of Staff Evy parts. One for those that wouldn't mind healing and one for those that go healing. Those who like to heal can get the rA Heal and those that don't, should only get rE for themselves. Also, we have a general guide already anyways, Sora basically points out what he thinks is useful for Staff and Scythe.

And yes, there are people who are dumb enough not to bring pots (not to mention the no potion oaths).

Edit* You fixed the Healing part, so that part is fine. Thanks :)

[Sora]

Wow, I didn't even read it, don't worry Rynn, I saw the same thing with counter for Fiona, saying it was completely useless or something, then people started to find out how to use it and etc, and suddenly became amazing and must use skill.

The Healing class is absolutely great for party play, people are all level 38 so healing while doing Blood Prince is a rarity, but when we first reached level 31 and did Blood Prince for the first time, having a Healer would have been a gift as we would not worry to stop and heal ourselves with the chance of being hit while using a potion. People don't see a usefulness of a healer because for them, they don't need one, because there aren't any difficult dungeons to do for them because they reached cap level and there is no new content.

But you know what Rynn, start taking names, make sure you don't heal them when they need it. :]

Edit: In addition, I would like point out when I duo Hard Macha Blood Prince with my character Cliona [Evie-32] with my Gf's character Kairos [Fiona-38]. It is much harder then doing it with 4 people, because there is more aggro because of less amount of people, often then times I find myself Healing her because she is constantly harassed by the Mini Bosses and Bosses. And if she ends up dieing, it's going to be hard to revive her with one of the princess on my tail.

[Science]

Wow, I didn't even read it, don't worry Rynn, I saw the same thing with counter for Fiona, saying it was completely useless or something, then people started to find out how to use it and etc, and suddenly became amazing and must use skill.

The Healing class is absolutely great for party play, people are all level 38 so healing while doing Blood Prince is a rarity, but when we first reached level 31 and did Blood Prince for the first time, having a Healer would have been a gift as we would not worry to stop and heal ourselves with the chance of being hit while using a potion. People don't see a usefulness of a healer because for them, they don't need one, because there aren't any difficult dungeons to do for them because they reached cap level and there is no new content.

But you know what Rynn, start taking names, make sure you don't heal them when they need it. :]

Being immature is cool, yo.

[Tablo]

Reading this thread, I understand that you agree that Evie sawks, so I sir, obviously seeing that you made this thread to pretty much make arguments, and to demean Evie players, will make completely valid statements like yourself.

Lann sucks cause all he can do is DPS and can't stun down Bosses.

That is what I see from you, so why don't you just stop and start making actually useful posts on Mabination, because I really would love to see this NOT turn into the Nexon Official Forums. I've seen alot of bawling around lately, it's quite annoying and about the most useless things. People are so obsessed about DPS and what not and forgot how fun it is to play.

Edit: Sorry about the not so very constructive post.

I don't even know the situation in Nexon forums is like, so I'm not even going to comment on that. Why am I obsessed with DPS? It's unfair. I love to play Evie, but hell, in parties does my character look terrible. My "arguments" were to bring up the points that cause problems for the evie players. We need a patch. This imbalance is unacceptable, especially in an MMO.
Wow, demean evie players and make arguments? I'm trying to help newer players to get the most out of the game possible.
If this guide really bothers people (like you), demeans evie players, and only make arguments. I'll delete it. I guess this thread or my "suggestion" isn't any useful for you. I'll expect a better guide from you then.

[Sora]

I don't even know the situation in Nexon forums is like, so I'm not even going to comment on that.
Neither do I but everyone is aware that the Nexon forums is all full of bawl, which is what I see you trying to do in this thread.

Why am I obsessed with DPS? It's unfair.
How is it unfair? She completely overpowers FIona/Lann in Magic Attack. Do you think it would be fair if Evie can deal the same about of Melee Damage as Fiona/Lann and still have amazing Magic Powers?

I love to play Evie, but hell, in parties does my character look terrible. My "arguments" were to bring up the points that cause problems for the evie players. We need a patch. This imbalance is unacceptable, especially in an MMO.
Point above, Evie is perfectly balanced character, and if you have weakness in Evie, rank skills accordingly, I ranked up combat mastery because I saw the same thing, now I can perfectly take out mobs almost as efficiently as Lann Fiona at my level with the same amount of AP.

Wow, demean evie players and make arguments? I'm trying to help newer players to get the most out of the game possible.
If this guide really bothers people (like you), demeans evie players, and only make arguments. I'll delete it. I guess this thread or my "suggestion" isn't any useful for you. I'll expect a better guide from you then.
Do you see what you wrote at the end of your first post, you wrote that Evie is a terrible character, I guess that's not demeaning her.

Anyway, I'm done here, made my statement and argument.

[Tablo]

>_> Excuse me, I went full support but I still had enough AP to put into Magic Arrow.

I believe what we're trying to say is -- Some of those you have posted up there are not needed for certain types. This is a suggestions guide, so put up two "types" of Staff Evy parts. One for those that wouldn't mind healing and one for those that go healing. Those who like to heal can get the rA Heal and those that don't, should only get rE for themselves. Also, we have a general guide already anyways, Sora basically points out what he thinks is useful for Staff and Scythe.

And yes, there are people who are dumb enough not to bring pots (not to mention the no potion oaths).

Edit* You fixed the Healing part, so that part is fine. Thanks :)

What I meant by full-support
1) quick-slots taken over by heals
2) heavy armor
3) defense!
4) no ap for bolts D:

Having rA heal doesn't mean going full support. If you get in a battle, and all you're doing is healing and reviving party members, that's full support.
I did not mean to offend anyone with that sentence, and I apologize. I'm glad you found ap left over for the magic arrow :)
Sora has a great "general guide" for evies. I'm sure that will help many players now and in the future. This is a "skill-tree" (ugh, this word really bothers me lol). Sora's guide is not specific, and this guide is aimed to help newer players in early game.

Oh, Sora, nice. Take down my name, okay. I'll just heal myself then :) I don't go by Tablo on vindictus, so make sure you have the right guy 8D...
Yeah..I guess you failed to read the shout-out part.

[PandaSong]

:P This is my last post, cause this isn't going anywhere. I still find Sora's guide a bit more helpful, since it does have everything (it just makes people think for themselves a bit more). For those that just want a skill guide, this is general enough that it could help. However, Sora is right about you seeming to bash the Evy with their damage and things. It's already been shown that they can solo the Red Tyrant just as fast, or faster (because they don't need to counter) as a Fiona. You just need the right skills upped.

1) My quick slots always have two types of heals in them unless it's a baby dungeon or I'm with a friend's Evy, then I put a campfire (because I have rA campfire and most Evy's don't).
2) Heavy armor is useless to us since we can't wear it at the moment. When we can, I will actually think about wearing it to certain places if it looks cool. I'm not worried about stats or defenses because I try not to get hit by dodging.
3) Defense-wise, I'm all for supporting learning to dodge instead of taking hits. Unless you're known to lag (Like I am, darn you Nexon and your bad p2p system!) and can't make up for it. I have yet to die when I haven't lagged or gotten caught in one of those "oh no! It's a stone and you can't hop over it!"

;) Oh and I won't take down names unless people really piss me off, I try not to bring those types of things into games.

[Tablo]

It's too early to say that evie is perfectly balanced. If it was, I would question a Korean developer explaining that there will be a patch for evies. Like i said, early game, Evie is good. Go late game, you wouldn't want to be one if you're just an average player.
Funny how everyone is judging the class based on their experience. We're still open beta. Chances are, Koreans know this game better than we do. Same issue is brought up over and over again in the Korean forums. With that being said, let me say this again. Evies are being kicked out of parties for being worthless. Especially staff-evies. It has gotten to the point where evies are being kicked off from the 2nd boat. If you're happy with your character, ignore what I say. You're still under-leveled with limited content available. I'm looking ahead in the future, because hey, end game matters to me.

Pandasong, why are you comparing my guide to Sora's? Stick to the guide that helps you. Mine's a skill tree and there's definitely a difference between a general guide and a suggested skill tree. Some people prefer having a skill tree, some don't. You can have a guide explaining all the skills, or you can have a guide that suggests how you should rank a skill.

Oh, btw, let's use PM's. Shall we? :)

[Hiccup]

Were actually live now, Vindi went live when Evie came out

[TA]

this guide should not be made by someone who thinks Evie sucks >_>

Yeahhhhhhh... I agree with that.

You don't make something for people interested in Evie while telling them it sucks at the same time. Let the people that like Evie like Evie and stay out of their business.

[Tablo]

Yeahhhhhhh... I agree with that.

You don't make something for people interested in Evie while telling them it sucks at the same time. Let the people that like Evie like Evie and stay out of their business.

lol? who said i didn't like evie?

[TA]

lol? who said i didn't like evie?

Well, uh... you.


Oh...btw, evie is a terrible character (oo;)<---shoutout

[Tablo]

Well, uh... you.

everyone playing starcraft 2, complaining about imbalance hates their race. ok.
I play evie, and I complain about the character being inferior to the other characters (hence "evie sucks"), hate the class evie. ok.
logical? you figure it out.

[lasertroop]

I thought this was a Guide for scythe evie...not a bash on every chracter thread >.>

[Ruquion]

I thought this was a Guide for scythe evie...not a bash on every chracter thread >.>

SCYTHE-EVIES
I don't know, you figure it out.
Doesn't really sound like a scythe Evie guide, IMO.

[HerpDerp]

everyone playing starcraft 2, complaining about imbalance hates their race. ok.


Your analogy is so terrible that it isn't even funny.

[Tablo]

Your analogy is so terrible that it isn't even funny.

I request lock for this thread.
Funny someone made an account for that post...LOL
Thought it was against the rules to have 2 accounts,..maybe I'm mistaken but whatever.

[Arsik]

Locking at request of thread starter.