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Phoenix~Lament
11-05-2010, 02:49 AM
Vindictus is quite an interesting game. Post your interesting observations here!
To start:
1.If you slip dash/roll/sidestep/anything with forward momentum off an edge, you'll shoot out pretty far. If you hit a wall you can prevent fall damage some of the time. You can also use this to stand on top of other objects that you can't get to otherwise, like rocks and the fish box on the fishing boat.
2. The ice stalagmites (on the ground, they MIGHT reach the ceiling) in Dethrone the White Tyrant are weaker than normal ice stalagmites. I think they did this to exaggerate the polar bear's strength :O Also, ice stalagmites sometimes drop the ever so rare ice crystal.
3. You can play without a weapon. You can't sprint (though it costs stamina to try) or roll and you can only punch using your regular attack. You move so slowly, in fact, that if you pick up a light object like a pot you'll run faster :O
4. You can damage and kill your teammates using the environment and secondary weapons. Some of the more imaginative and hardcore players use this to farm Seals.
5. Halloween candy isn't considered to be a potion. This means you can take it on no-potion oaths of honor :)
Ruquion
11-05-2010, 02:52 AM
4. You can damage and kill your teammates using the environment and secondary weapons. Some of the more imaginative and hardcore players use this to farm Seals.
I don't see how you can kill your teammates using Secondary Weapons...
It isn't very imaginative to keep killing each other using spike traps, TBH.
Cannibal
11-05-2010, 02:53 AM
I don't see how you can kill your teammates using Secondary Weapons...
It isn't very imaginative to keep killing each other using spike traps, TBH.
I've been speared numerous times.
Ruquion
11-05-2010, 03:09 AM
I've been speared numerous times.
I spear my teammates almost every single game and they've never lost a drop of HP =o
zerojw
11-05-2010, 03:12 AM
if only I can chain hook my teammates.. =) keep them on a leash.
I spear my teammates almost every single game and they've never lost a drop of HP =o
Friendly fire was removed in Vindictus. I'm unaware if it was removed in Mabinogi Heroes.
I spear my teammates almost every single game and they've never lost a drop of HP =o
If they're in critical condition (i.e. successful life flare) and get hit with a spear they will die.
To unstuck the Finish! hitbox that fell through the ground, you need to heavily shake the surface area the body is on.
Also, there is no surface friction in this Source engine.
Plaything
11-05-2010, 01:52 PM
F12 can be used to automatically put your tokens in for you, as well as readying up. And you can preemptively hit f12 when you enter a zone in a dungeon to skip hitting it later to continue to the next spot.
If the entire party hits esc during cinematic cutscenes, you can skip it.
If you buy the normal Red Tyrant armor on the market, and turn it into the heavier/lighter set, the finished product will still be tradeable.
If you go to options> controls> advanced controls, there is a tick box towards the bottom right that enables auto-aiming for spears. Very useful in speed runs. :)
Additionally, under the advanced settings panel, if you look in the scrolling menu there is a Hide Display function (default to be the - on the number pad) that hides the UI, very useful for screenshots.
You get Seals of Enjoyment for every hour you spend on a fishing boat, so if you're comfortable with leaving your comp on at night you can gather them while you sleep.
If you are a Fiona, you can speed up your attack combos by "Heavy Stander cancelling", which enables you to stop mid-animation and attack again, or dodge out of the way.
That's all I've got for now. :tea:
Science
11-05-2010, 03:16 PM
If you're a spear Lann with R9 Fury Infusion, you can roll just as Fury activates to get a free roll out of it :D(no stam used)
Phoenix~Lament
11-05-2010, 05:45 PM
If you're a spear Lann with R9 Fury Infusion, you can roll just as Fury activates to get a free roll out of it :D(no stam used)
Why does this work?
Science
11-05-2010, 05:46 PM
Why does this work?
iunno.
spazzyorbit
11-05-2010, 06:18 PM
Why does this work?
Because using fury infusion at r9 creates 0 delay in anything you are doing, but activates a few moments later.
ie: [smash button], [dodge], [actual fury activation].
Immie
11-05-2010, 07:09 PM
Basically you activate Fury Infusion while moving, and you have about 0.5 seconds to do whatever and then it instantly replenishes your stamina. You could get a "free" anything out of it, but if you don't have enough stamina for that in the first place, you won't do it.
My random facts:
Spear Lann!
-Combo 1 and 3 have three hits each, three chances to crit and gogo Gliding fury.
-Can cancel his smashes and activate gliding fury immediately after getting a crit- even before the other hits land on this first and third smash.
-Can cancel the lag at the end of all his smashes with the dodge roll.
-Can cancel Hurricane 3960 at any time with the dodge roll.
-The dodge roll itself is a smash which can freakin' crit and activate Gliding fury.
Sword lann can't do any of this. He has to wait for his smash animation to completely end before he can use Gliding fury, Slip dodge, anything. Also, his multi-hit combos only hit twice.
Evie!
-When using the staff, kicking with "R" will stop your stamina regen. Smashing will not. In other words, smash to finish monsters, it's better for you.
-Firebolt can be canceled by dodging. Very useful for when you are missing.
-Her little hop dodge can cancel the end of most of her smashes, which lets you attack faster, start regenerating stamina faster, and get to a better position. Awesome.
-You can also use blink here, if you need to get into a better spot, but that eats stamina. The hop dodge doesn't take any stamina, nor does it stop regen.
-Combo 3 sometimes fails to correctly kill the enemy it impales, instead they just kinda get stuck and you drag them around as you move. This will stop you progressing in dungeons, but they eventually fall off/die or something.
Phoenix~Lament
11-06-2010, 02:18 AM
Here's some statistical analysis on critical hits and Spear Lann's that proves how awesome he is :D
Using 3960 Hurricane given a 20% critical hit chance (Critical Hit Rank 9 + unknown amount from willpower, or Critical Hit F and Fury Infusion F)
This is the graph of your critical hit chances:
http://keisan.casio.com/keisan/lib/virtual/tmp/73825508158.png
There is a 91% chance of getting at least 1 critical hit in all 11 spins
There is a 60% chance of getting 1 critical hit in your first 4 spins, or any 4 spins
There is a 70% chance of getting at least 2 critical hits in all 11 spins
And as you can see, on average you'll land 2 critical hits.
Using 3960 Hurricane (all 11 spins) given a 40% critical chance (R9 Fury Infusion + R9 Critical Hit + some stats) yields this as your distribution of critical hits:
http://keisan.casio.com/keisan/lib/virtual/tmp/117043141281.png
On average you'll land 4 critical hits.
There's a 99.6% chance of landing at least one critical hit, so it's pretty much guaranteed.
You'll crit a little under every other spin (40% is a little under 50%)
Sources:
Binomial Probability Calculator: Binomial Distribution: Probability Calculator (http://stattrek.com/Tables/Binomial.aspx)
Binomial Distrbution Graphing Program: http://keisan.casio.com/has10/SpecExec.cgi
Gliding Fury is pretty amazing on Spear Lann because of how many more times he smashes enemies making it over twice as likely to get a crit. Also, if you're using 3960 Hurricane, you can hold your smash button to keep spinning until the end, or you can mash it quickly in order to activate the next gliding fury you proc.
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Also, Immie, are you sure Spear Lann's 3rd smash only hits 3 times? Now, I don't know if you're familiar with this or not so just in case you aren't: Realistically, he's performing a maneuever called a weave, either two beats or three beats, that (doubled, since you have either two beats or three beats on just one side of your body) means he should be hitting the area in front of him 4 times or 6 times. Of course, the engine might treat it differently, but playing on my spear lann also leads me to believe that he hits more times than that.
PApalapagus
11-06-2010, 04:11 AM
^ Its 3 hits.
Purutzil
11-06-2010, 07:31 AM
-The closer you are to a mob when you throw an object, the more damage it does. This value appears to greatly increase in damage the closer you are making an object possible to be an instant kill at close range to doing barely anything at far range.
-When an enemy is on the ground still alive (primarily vampires are good for this) you are able to auto spear when near them and hit them. Good for when your going for vampire piercing title and the vampire was smacked to the ground.
- Standing Endurance Rank 9 will allow Fiona to quickly roll up onto her feet saving her downtime on the ground from being smashed.
- The title Plop! and all other titles are all linked to the team. Its a good idea to kick the slimes dead to finish them as they count towards your entire team not just yourself.
- Out of spears on Red Tyrant due to his excessive taking of spears? Try using chunks from the ice stalagmites on the ground. A good few chucks of these will help knock the boss down to allow a chance to do some hurt to him.
- Help out those lowbies! Helping someone that is a lower level then you by a decent gap will grant you a seal, 40 of those will give you 10 more tokens that you can get once a day.
-When on the fishing boat, the more people that are on board, the more fish that will spawn. A greater number of people will increase the chance a giant fish will appear. Its possible to have 2 big fish appearing when on a filled boat.
Blink can be used to quickly open doors when they've been slightly cracked open.
happynoobing
11-08-2010, 10:22 AM
The dodge roll itself is a smash which can freakin' crit and activate Gliding fury.
really? so if i dodge roll towards an enemy, i'm actually hitting it?
Ruquion
11-08-2010, 12:02 PM
really? so if i dodge roll towards an enemy, i'm actually hitting it?
If you're a Spear Lann then yes. Fiona's dodge roll doesnt' do damage.
Daisuke
11-08-2010, 01:11 PM
Each successive hit with Evie's Magic Arrow will do less damage. That's if you use Magic Arrow back-to-back without delay.
Xhyros
11-08-2010, 08:19 PM
Slip dash after a windmill has shorter travel distance. You can use party phoenix feathers on Oaths that restrict you from reviving. You can repair using the campfire anvil on Oaths that restrict you from repairing armor. Using mine bombs in parties is kinda crappy. Although it says you can hold down the hot key button to continuously drink a potion, I have only been able to do this on the boat.
heretic304
11-09-2010, 11:24 PM
Each successive hit with Evie's Magic Arrow will do less damage. That's if you use Magic Arrow back-to-back without delay.
Magic Arrow does the same damage even if cast consecutively. Not sure where you got this idea. You can even look at the damage formula and see that nothing indicates damage reduction from consecutive casts.
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