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BobYoMeowMeow
04-28-2010, 07:24 PM
The North Korean military has recently altered its wartime contingency plans against South Korea to concentrate on attacking the Seoul metropolitan region, a military source said yesterday. South Korean commanders will meet next month to discuss the change and their response to it.

According to the high-ranking source, the North’s military recently decided to do away with the so-called “Five-to-Seven” plans dating from the 1980s to adopt a new plan in which it would occupy only a part of South Korea and start negotiating a cease-fire.

“We believe the North made the change to better deal with the upgraded weapons systems of the U.S. and South Korean forces,” the source explained.

In the previous plan, the numerals five and seven refer to the number of days North Korea believed it would take to occupy all of South Korea. Under that plan, the North’s frontline mechanized units would bulldoze through the South for about a week before gaining control of the country.

With the new plan, the North would concentrate its early fire on Seoul and neighboring areas, where most of South Korea’s social and economic infrastructure is located.

“North Korea would try to occupy Seoul early,” the source said. “And from there, it could either try to go farther south, or try to negotiate [for a cease-fire] from an advantageous position.”

A military expert who requested anonymity said the North took cues from the Gulf War in 1991 and Iraq War in 2003. Iraqi forces had armored vehicles similar to the North’s, but they were destroyed by the U.S. military’s precision strike weapons. North Korea, in other words, has concluded that if its mechanized units engaged in old-fashioned combat without extra help, they would be no match for the more sophisticated U.S. weapons systems.

As part of the change, North Korea has bolstered its frontline mechanized corps with extra mechanized divisions, the military source said. Also, the frontline corps have each received an extra light infantry division, and light infantry battalions on the front have been expanded to regiments.

The South Korean military also believes the North has bolstered its torpedo and sea mine capabilities against a possible U.S.-South Korea joint rear landing and has traded submarines with Iran for the latest torpedoes.

South Korean military commanders will gather early next month to discuss how to stay prepared for combat amid increasing tension with North Korea. Defense Ministry spokesman Won Tae-jae said, “Their meeting will serve as an opportunity for us to review problems surrounding the Cheonan sinking, to discuss strengthening combat preparedness on western islands and to tighten discipline for the entire armed forces.”

http://joongangdaily.joins.com/article/view.asp?aid=2919725


North Korea has adopted a new war invasion strategy and shifted troop reserves accordingly, according to JoongAng Daily.

The new plan calls for the immediate occupation of part of Seoul, followed by negotiations for a cease-fire. It replaces plans for a Sherman's March-type invasion.

While it could be mere posturing, the plan shows ruthless understanding of the peninsula balance of power. South Korea is too timid to retaliate when attacked. North Korea has a failed economy and wants to move from charity case to parasite.

Donald Kirk makes a similar argument at Asia Times:

South Korea is doing so well economically and living standards are so high that the idea of seeking anything other than rhetorical revenge for the sinking of the Cheonan with a loss of 46 lives on March 26 appears almost unthinkable. Certainly South Korea would get no support for such a venture from its American ally, bogged down in wars in the Middle East and attempting to force South Korean generals reluctantly to believe they should take full command of all forces in the South in the event of a second Korean war.

While South Korea's economy grows at a pace ahead of that of the rest of the industrial world, South Korean military people worry over what they see as the North's alarming new strategy. That is, to chip away at the South Koreans with attacks such as that on the hapless navy corvette in the West or Yellow Sea - and maybe bold quick hits on Seoul and Incheon.

There was more evidence of militarization over the weekend, as North Korea seized a joint-operated hotel near the border.

North Korea Is Building Up Military For An Attack (http://www.businessinsider.com/north-korea-is-building-up-military-for-an-attack-2010-4)

And the Korean War technically isnt over.

:worry:

Mrlucky77
04-28-2010, 07:27 PM
I know, the fact that it never ended but just settled down is pretty funny.

Laconicus
04-28-2010, 07:28 PM
My brother's stationed near Seoul. Good thing he'll be home within a month. o_o

Hiccup
04-28-2010, 07:31 PM
So this is the new war the US is in? Yayayayayaya and my dad wants me to join the navy! LOL no thanks

Mrlucky77
04-28-2010, 07:33 PM
N Korea is effed, btw.

BobYoMeowMeow
04-28-2010, 07:34 PM
So this is the new war the US is in? Yayayayayaya and my dad wants me to join the navy! LOL no thanks

US isn't really involved except for deploying some troops in South Korea to protect them from a possible North Korean invasion.
The US is mainly focused on the Middle East currently.

Hiccup
04-28-2010, 07:34 PM
Nuke em before they can nuke us! :>

BobYoMeowMeow
04-28-2010, 07:36 PM
Nuke em before they can nuke us! :>

North Korea's nuclear missles can't even reach the US
the farthest they can fly is Hawaii or Alaska
but the government already set up nuclear shields and missles shot that far is easy to intercept.

The ones who should worry is anyone close enough to North Korea

EndlessDreams
04-28-2010, 07:39 PM
North Korea is one of the poorest countries in the world while just south of it is one of the richest countries in the world in terms of economy.

With the South Korea blocking that mountain tourist place, which limits North Korea's funds even more, it would seem like North Korea will want to attack South Korea out of desperation.

Especially since US seems occupied with the Middle East, and Obama wants to make peace with everyone.

Laconicus
04-28-2010, 07:46 PM
I kinda hope that North Korea does attack so they can lose miserably and the dispute will finally be over. Korea is an awesome country, and with double the landmass and population I'm sure it will be even more awesome (*cough and perhaps pump out more and better MMOs cough*)

BobYoMeowMeow
04-28-2010, 07:48 PM
NO NO Laconius
North Korea isn't bad
it's just their leader + the government
taking them out is a better solution than inviting the whole North Korea into the fray
from what the cat knows
there are North Korean immigrants who left their families to go to South Korea

Cucurbita
04-28-2010, 07:49 PM
What the hell is this bull ****.

Seriously, whats the point of attacking a developed area anymore? You're just killing millions of people who have nothing to do with the national war.

http://theriverreporter.files.wordpress.com/2009/02/seoul-image.jpg

Why would anyone attack that?

Its mostly occupied by teenagers and businessmen.

Besides, they've got nothing to win. South Korea is allies with just about every nation in existence now, and god knows how many nations would actually help North Korea. Its a suicide mission.

Laconicus
04-28-2010, 07:54 PM
NO NO Laconius
North Korea isn't bad
it's just their leader + the government
taking them out is a better solution than inviting the whole North Korea into the fray
from what the cat knows
there are North Korean immigrants who left their families to go to South KoreaWell I mean I don't want the citizens dead, just the government =x The citizens have done nothing wrong. On the other hand Kim Jong Il is a joke. Does North Korea even have any allies? >_>

Cucurbita
04-28-2010, 07:55 PM
Well I mean I don't want the citizens dead, just the government =x The citizens have done nothing wrong. On the other hand Kim Jong Il is a joke. Does North Korea even have any allies? >_>

They deal with a lot of terroristic groups and countries from the middle east.

You know, the annoying nations that America has been trying for a decade to do something about, and failed?

Juno
04-28-2010, 07:58 PM
So in other words, they strategically repositioned themselves for an attack they'll never carry out. Sounds fun.

Cucurbita
04-28-2010, 08:03 PM
After thinking this over, I actually DARE north korea to attack.
With what?

Tanks?

Their tanks as far as common intelligence is concerned, is incredibly outdated.

I swear, the military wouldn't even need to be involved. They want to invade Seoul? The citizens will grab some construction cranes and blockade the streets. Problem solved.

They're going to lose the war no matter what, South Korea will invade and own North Korea, they will merge to become Korea. Assimilating North into South will cost tons of money but will also provide plenty of jobs. There will be a slight period of time in which Korea will hit a huge recession but will recover stronger than ever with the new availability in land, direct ground connection to China, and natural resources.

With this Korea could probably easily match or surpass Japan too.

Chockeh
04-28-2010, 08:10 PM
I kinda hope that North Korea does attack so they can lose miserably and the dispute will finally be over. Korea is an awesome country, and with double the landmass and population I'm sure it will be even more awesome (*cough and perhaps pump out more and better MMOs cough*)
Ummm that's like gas into the fire, the disputes will keep on increasing. And it could cost utter chaos.

Magenera
04-28-2010, 09:04 PM
The sad part is China gonna intervene on this one, they have a huge population as it is, and now if war does happens, gonna face immigration from N.Korea. Attacking S.Korea, would change the focus (again) from the middle east to N.Korea, and as Kitake27 puts it face the entire world, where N.Korea only ally is terrorist. If they think Iran going to join in they must be joking, cause Iran more than likely treating them the same way we do to a country that is easy profits, with less risks, yeah Iran is going to ignore them.

Laconicus
04-28-2010, 09:08 PM
Ummm that's like gas into the fire, the disputes will keep on increasing. And it could cost utter chaos.Well I mean if Kim Jong Il is killed I'm pretty sure the citizens will be pretty happy. It's an oppressive state, they most likely wouldn't rebel if the two merged under southern control. Perhaps there would be retaliation from Kim Jong Il's children, but there aren't that many of them, so I don't see how it could cause utter chaos...


They're going to lose the war no matter what, South Korea will invade and own North Korea, they will merge to become Korea. Assimilating North into South will cost tons of money but will also provide plenty of jobs. There will be a slight period of time in which Korea will hit a huge recession but will recover stronger than ever with the new availability in land, direct ground connection to China, and natural resources.

With this Korea could probably easily match or surpass Japan too.My thoughts exactly.

Axx
04-28-2010, 09:51 PM
North Korea has been under what, 2-3 generations of people living under constant propaganda and thought management? I'd really be surprised to hear that 80+ years of living in such a state hasn't turned the citizens into mindless puppets of the government. (key worries there: racial tensions [among North vs South Korea, no less. Hope for Korean:Asian slim, Korean:Other none)

I really think that it would take nearly the full effort and support of the entire international community to make one "Korea" a reality. Not gonna happen with the world economy as it is.