Mature discussions forum section

[newnameforyou]

Create one.

It's extremely ridiculous that there's no place on this site where we can discuss things such as sex. And like that confessions thread Phunkie made? Can't even post my confessions in there because of the whole "kids" things you have on the forums here. It can't be that you don't see that there's a really small minority of little kids.

Honestly, I've never seen a forum where topics got censored and locked because they were about a question involving sex. It's like the staff here is the medieval church. Such as this http://mabination.com/mabination-community/bean-rua/13800-continued-srs-yet-questionably-inappropriate-question-d-nu-chillranz-pl0x.html

[TA]

I think it's total bs personally, but that's just me.

[Kueh]

It can't be that you don't see that there's a really small minority of little kids.

How do you know that kids make up a minority? Unless you've cataloged a large number of users, I don't see how you could know.

Also, keep in mind that there are people who come to this site besides users. The vast majority of lurkers could very well be made up of children. Especially since older people would just eventually make an account, a child might lack the initiative or the ability to make an account. Thus the amount of older lurkers is kept in check as older lurkers make accounts, but the young lurker amount only increases as more and more young lurkers arrive.

I think a mature discussions forum would be a good idea, in practice though, I can foresee it being a problem. Imagine users who only ever come to this site to live in that section.

[Kyubey]

That mature section can always be blocked by user age. Users who don't set their birthday are forbidden from accessing it and those who fake their bday is their own problem

[newnameforyou]

How do you know that kids make up a minority? Unless you've cataloged a large number of users, I don't see how you could know.http://mabination.com/mabination-community/general-discussions/everything-else/3045-whats-your-irl-age-11.html looks like a minority to me.


Also, keep in mind that there are people who come to this site besides users. The vast majority of lurkers could very well be made up of children. Especially since older people would just eventually make an account, a child might lack the initiative or the ability to make an account. Thus the amount of older lurkers is kept in check as older lurkers make accounts, but the young lurker amount only increases as more and more young lurkers arrive.So this site should cater to the non-contributing lurkers? LOL. That's totally irrelevant.


I think a mature discussions forum would be a good idea, in practice though, I can foresee it being a problem. Imagine users who only ever come to this site to live in that section.And what would be the problem if some users only ever come to that section? Are users forced to post in all sections? Some users only post in bean rua here. Same deal.

[Kueh]

http://mabination.com/mabination-community/general-discussions/everything-else/3045-whats-your-irl-age-11.html looks like a minority to me.
This is not an accurate measure of the ages of users. We've recently seen an influx of users and none of them have posted in that thread. There are also other users who have been around who haven't posted in that thread.

So this site should cater to the non-contributing lurkers? LOL. That's a bad terrible arguement.
Don't straw man me. I'm not talking about catering to non-contributing users. I'm talking about keeping mature content away from children who happen upon this site.

And what would be the problem if some users only ever come to that section? Are users forced to post in all sections? Some users only post in bean rua here. Same deal.
It isn't the same deal. Someone who only posts in bean rua is a person who likes to laugh. Someone who only posts in the mature forum is a pervert.

[newnameforyou]

This is not an accurate measure of the ages of users. We've recently seen an influx of users and none of them have posted in that thread. There are also other users who have been around who haven't posted in that thread.What makes you think the general age curve will suddenly be completely different? Besides, children under 13 aren't even allowed on forums normally unless the forum has installed COPPA. In reality, this is a null arguement because kids aren't allowed on here legally.


Don't straw man me. I'm not talking about catering to non-contributing users. I'm talking about keeping mature content away from children who happen upon this site.Fair enough, then that can easily be solved by only making the section visible to members who are 13+ or 16+ so we can protect the little children.


It isn't the same deal. Someone who only posts in bean rua is a person who likes to laugh. Someone who only posts in the mature forum is a pervert.Non sequitur arguement.

[Kueh]

How is calling a person who only wants to talk about mature topics not a pervert?

[newnameforyou]

That's a really huge generalisation you draw there. And really, how do you come to that conclusion? That's a warped view you have there. It's the same as calling someone who only posts in bean rua a weirdo. People aren't black and white.

[Kueh]

Fair enough, then that can easily be solved by only making the section visible to members who are 13+ or 16+ so we can protect the little children.

I don't think 16 is old enough to be talking mature topics, but if there was a mature forum, the age limits wouldn't be up to me.



And really, how do you come to that conclusion?

Mature topics are mature because they're sexual in nature. That's the kind of forum you wanted. You made this clear in the OP. Someone who only joins a community because they want to talk about sex and bathe their mind in sex is a pervert.

If you want to extend the label of mature to include gory or bloody topics which I would think is a bad idea in the first place, they would be a violent pervert.

Also, those who only BR are weirdos.

[Zid]

If the official Nexon forums won't add a mature section, and this forum is advertised by Nexon (who is always straddling the PG13 fence)...

What makes you think it's possible here?

[newnameforyou]

You completely missed the point, Whyrainfalls. And you really come off as a conservative catholic.

[Kueh]

You completely missed the point, Whyrainfalls. And you really come off as a conservative catholic.

If I missed the point you want everyone to know, wouldn't it be more helpful to just say it explicitly rather than telling me that I missed it? Obviously I won't know what you're talking about if I missed it in the first place.

And I don't even know what to say to the catholic part. This isn't about being conservative or liberal, being catholic or otherwise. What do my personal views have to do with the topic? I'm not even aware of what I said to make you think that, but it shouldn't matter.

Even if I was a conservative catholic, who cares? If you care, bringing it up in this thread will only distract from your original point and make a mature forum less likely to happen.

[abc33kr]

Why do you assume that there will be a significant portion of people will be joining this forum just for smex topics?
If that was their intention, then they would just go to some other forums designed for fetishes. Not everyone comes to this forum.

To add to this idea, I think making this forum section only accessible by members who are approved by mods/admins. So that way we won't have drastic changes in the atmosphere of this section and it will keep children out. And make sure threads made on this section don't show up in new posts/mabination home page.

Personally, I think this section would turn out great. I could recommend people some mabi dojinshi and maybe I could get some ones I haven't seen myself.
And if you think that kind of activity is perverted, then you have some serious problems. The world isn't a pure white world, get out of ur imagination and face reality.

Also, Mabinogi is a pretty mature game (come on just look at nao, morrighan, and kusina). Anyone who plays this game should be able to handle some levels of maturity. If they cannot, then they shouldn't be playing mabinogi in the first place. It is their fault.

[Kueh]

And if you think that kind of activity is perverted, then you have some serious problems. The world isn't a pure white world, get out of ur imagination and face reality.

If this was directed towards me, you need to actually read what I posted. I didn't say I was against the idea, nor did I say these were things that are going to happen.

I said I was for the idea, but these are things that could possibly happen.

[Phunkie]

What's a mature topic?

We've had topics on sex before. On what's a good age to have sex, about a woman who fell down and became obsessed with sex, about how fat men make better lovers (lol?), etc., etc.

There's nothing wrong discussing sexual topics while still being mature. But talking about how badly you want to have sex with a certain person... well, that's just kinda nasty. Stuff like that should be kept between good friends, not communicated out to an entire forum, nor to a select few.

If you wanted to post in my Confessions thread, you could have very well done so; of course, without being too explicit.

Why is there a need to be so descriptive and explicit about mature and private issues such as sex? Sure, you could be asking for advice on the matter, like Rihanna (yayforhanna) did--whose thread lock I was surprised with, since everyone was being mature--but otherwise it seems a little out of place, at least to me.

There's a bunch of other nice forums if you wish to discuss genital sizes and masturbation techniques, if that's what you really want to do. Or fetishes and the sort.

The worst you'll find here are just silly discussions about certain members' asses and jokes about people trying to get in each other's beds. And that works, seeing as how we're not such a specific forum. We focus on Mabinogi and Vindictus, yes, but we're pretty general in all other aspects. Sex included.

Plus, I don't think anyone's too into sex that it requires a whole new sub-forum. It'd be a dead section or if not, just a spammy section about everyone's certain fetishes and hentai and yaoi and whatnot.

Plus, it brings up the question, if we allow a mature section, do we allow mature images and videos in that section as well? I love me some sexy men, but I don't come to Mabination to look at porn, nor read about people's fantasies.

And what if someone's sexual fantasies offend another? Beastiality, homosexuality, pedophilia, old people sex? It becomes waaaaay too complicated.

Therefore, stuff like that should be left to the imagination.

[abc33kr]

D: I just want a place talk about hawt stuff in mabi.

Just like that nao appreciation thread. That is a good example of things we will talk about in this mature discussion forum.

We will talk about npcs and maybe refer to a doujinshi through a link (and if that is not allowed, we will pm).

[Byte]

I would make a section for it, but I wouldn't allow pictures/videos/porn links. Hard discussion on it, like talking about flavoured protection(waha) or how to please your man/woman in detail would be allowed.

Otherwise, I'll be enforcing the PG-13 rule("Sex talk"(TV Show) is rated M, and they show nothing that's my basis[don't hate cause I watch it every now and then!!]).

A section in General Discussions sure... but, it would have to have it's own rules applied to it, along with "No Links, Images, Videos" and someway of a disclaimer/password/privilege.

[abc33kr]

Then can we talk about giving links through pm?

[Phunkie]

D: I just want a place talk about hawt stuff in mabi.

Just like that nao appreciation thread. That is a good example of things we will talk about in this mature discussion forum.

We will talk about npcs and maybe refer to a doujinshi through a link (and if that is not allowed, we will pm).

I dunno, man.

There's IM for these kinds of things.

Nao is hot and whatnot, but we don't really need to hear what you'd love to do to her. Speaking in general, of course.


Then can we talk about giving links through pm?

You can send whatever you want to another person through PM, as long as it's not offensive to that user. Haha, they're called private messages for a reason.

[newnameforyou]

Ugh, do you people actually think I mean a forum category with only threads like "what's the best technique for masturbation"? Hell no. I wouldn't like those topics because they are just idiotic. I mean a category where topics like Hanna's wouldn't get locked because "onoes, der might b lil kids readin" or "onoes, that person posted the bad word penis... better lock it!!1!!" - you see? Everyone posted maturely in Hanna's topics so there was no reason to lock her topic I linked to in the OP. Don't remember which mod did it, but my point is: It's NOT the end of the world when someone asks a question about sex or has a problem regarding it or posts words like tits, vagina, penis.

And yes, exactly, abc33kr.

If you wanted to post in my Confessions thread, you could have very well done so; of course, without being too explicit.That might've been fine with you, but there are mods a hell lot more uptight than you. I definitely would've gotten infracted.

Why is there a need to be so descriptive and explicit about mature and private issues such as sex?Again, mature topics do not necessarily mean someone will tell in great detail about their sex life. See the beginning of my post for what I mean.

And what if someone's sexual fantasies offend another? Beastiality, homosexuality, pedophilia, old people sex? It becomes waaaaay too complicated.Well if you'd let people talk about illegal things, then yeah.

[Phunkie]

Beastiality isn't explicitly outlawed everywhere. But that's another whole topic. haha

And yeah, you're right. Nothing wrong with saying penis or vagina.

If I remember correctly, that Nao thread was never locked, so there was nothing wrong with it. You say you wanna discuss topics like that one and I say, go for it, there's no problem with that.

Also, I don't see why we can't discuss things like flavored condoms as well, an idea that Byte brought up. There's nothing wrong about that, IMO.

But I'd have to see what the other moderators say.

[newnameforyou]

Yeah, I'm all for all kinds of discussions. I just meant that a mature section doesn't necessarily mean it's only about those kind of topics. Also for non-pg13 problems people have, etc.

[Hanna]

I think a mature discussions section is a good idea.
I like the thought of being able to talk about personal problems (such as the problem with my boyfriend and I) without worrying of getting in trouble/banned for breaking the rules.
But of course that's just me, I can see a problem with people coming to the site to 'troll' by spamming porn videos, sites, ect.

[Byte]

I think a mature discussions section is a good idea.
I like the thought of being able to talk about personal problems (such as the problem with my boyfriend and I) without worrying of getting in trouble/banned for breaking the rules.
But of course that's just me, I can see a problem with people coming to the site to 'troll' by spamming porn videos, sites, ect.

Which is why I personally wouldn't allow any videos, links or images of anything.

[Hanna]

Which is why I personally wouldn't allow any videos, links or images of anything.

Then I think it would be nice to just have a place where we can have a mature subjects.
Age block + video/pics/link block would make it easier to have one without any trouble.

though I don't think the age block should be 18+
maybe a late teenage limit such as 15 or 16+
because around that age is when people start to have personal problems. o:
but that's just my opinion.

[Byte]

Then I think it would be nice to just have a place where we can have a mature subjects.
Age block + video/pics/link block would make it easier to have one without any trouble.

though I don't think the age block should be 18+
maybe a late teenage limit such as 15 or 16+
because around that age is when people start to have personal problems. o:
but that's just my opinion.

If we go into a site that's 18+ and post their stuff on a 16+ forum, don't you think there is a problem?

This topic is... eh/eh/eh. There are plenty of OTHER forums to talk about stuff like that, and as you found out, I'm fine with PMing you help, it's just you have to assume everyone's parents are anal and read over your shoulder(I hated that when I was younger... grr ...)

[Hanna]

LOL I totally forgot about that. I remember being like 12 and my parents always though I was talking to some 50 year old pedophile.
;_;

[newnameforyou]

This topic is... eh/eh/eh. There are plenty of OTHER forums to talk about stuff like that, and as you found out, I'm fine with PMing you help, it's just you have to assume everyone's parents are anal and read over your shoulder(I hated that when I was younger... grr ...)People don't wanna go to another forum with strange people on it to talk about that sutff. They want to ask mabination members.

And again, if your parents still read over your shoulder you are most likely <13 and don't belong on here.

[Chockeh]

People don't wanna go to another forum with strange people on it to talk about that sutff. They want to ask mabination members.

And again, if your parents still read over your shoulder you are most likely <13 and don't belong on here.
And yet I'm still here <3.

[Byte]

People don't wanna go to another forum with strange people on it to talk about that sutff. They want to ask mabination members.

And again, if your parents still read over your shoulder you are most likely <13 and don't belong on here.

Wanting too, and needing too are two different things. My little brother doesn't want to take a shower, but after a weekend of rolling around in his filth, he NEEDS too.

Also, my dad still reads over my shoulder, but he's not as strict because I'm 18.

[newnameforyou]

Wanting too, and needing too are two different things.What does this have to do with anything?

Also, it's "wanting to" and "needing to" fyi.

[Byte]

What does this have to do with anything?

Also, it's "wanting to" and "needing to" fyi.


People don't wanna go to another forum with strange people on it to talk about that sutff. They want to ask mabination members.

And again, if your parents still read over your shoulder you are most likely <13 and don't belong on here.

No retort to my response, and a grammar insult. So I assume you agree with what I said.

[newnameforyou]

Man, you're making a fool out of yourself :/

Mabination doesn't NEED a special skin, they just want it.
Mabination doesn't NEED forum events, they just want it.
etc
etc

Understand? You saying there's a difference between wanting to and needing to (hello captain obvious) is of no matter.

[Byte]

Man, you're making a fool out of yourself :/

Mabination doesn't NEED a special skin, they just want it.
Mabination doesn't NEED forum events, they just want it.
etc
etc

Understand? You saying there's a difference between wanting to and needing to (hello captain obvious) is of no matter.

That's what you think. Mabination NEEDS a special skin, because it attracts members. Mabination NEEDS forum events, because it keeps members.

So since I can tell you why we need what you listed, tell me why we NEED a section for stuff rated 18+ when you could just go to other sites.

Actually, list pros and cons of having the "Mature Discussion Section".

[Fracture]

I don't think 16 is old enough to be talking mature topics, but if there was a mature forum, the age limits wouldn't be up to me.


Why? For what reason would a 16 year old not be able to talk about sex? Most 16 year olds have either had sex already or have watched porn. At the very least they will have knowledge of it. Quite often, too, a person around that age has awkward questions that are in all honesty more easily posed anonymously to a relatively non-judgemental community than to, for instance, a parent or teacher. 14 and under I can understand, but by 15, there's things people aren't sure about, but are curious about.



Mature topics are mature because they're sexual in nature. That's the kind of forum you wanted. You made this clear in the OP. Someone who only joins a community because they want to talk about sex and bathe their mind in sex is a pervert.



Or they have little interest in the other topics, but advice or contributions to offer to a mature topic. Posting in sexually-oriented topics is not "bath[ing] their mind in sex."

[Kueh]

Why? For what reason would a 16 year old not be able to talk about sex? Most 16 year olds have either had sex already or have watched porn. At the very least they will have knowledge of it. Quite often, too, a person around that age has awkward questions that are in all honesty more easily posed anonymously to a relatively non-judgemental community than to, for instance, a parent or teacher. 14 and under I can understand, but by 15, there's things people aren't sure about, but are curious about.

Just because there are 16 year olds who have already had sex, doesn't mean that there are 16 year olds who should have already had sex. Allowing 16 year olds into a mature forum talking about sex is encouraging them to be involved in sex. If Mabination allows 16 year olds into a mature forum, it makes a statement that it thinks underage sex is okay.

I'm not saying 16 year olds shouldn't be talking about sex. I'm saying Mabination shouldn't be where they do it.

Like I already said, it's not up to me, and this is just my own opinion.


Or they have little interest in the other topics, but advice or contributions to offer to a mature topic. Posting in sexually-oriented topics is not "bath[ing] their mind in sex."

What do we call people who have little interest in topics other than sex? I call them perverts. There's a difference in someone who dabbles in the mature forum and someone who lives in the mature forum. Posting in sexually oriented topics is not bathing in sex, but posting solely in sexually oriented topics is swimming in it.

[Hitaki]

This thread is amazing.

[Kueh]

This thread is amazing.

You're amazing.

If we had a mature forum, we could talk about all the amazing things we would do to each other.

[Cannibal]

I agree with this, but I also agree with no postings of pictures or videos that are explicit. I've seen a few thing posted on the forums that have been removed by mods because they're just a liiiiiitle over-doing it. Like an anime chick with her boobs half-hanging out but covered, or the same with her ass. That isn't really explicit, and it isn't even an 18+ thing, but it may too much to be posted on the general forums.

I'm not sure how I feel this should be set up if it is. Passworded? That may become a hassle. Same with granting special access. I think that if we add a warning at the sub-section it'll do. Also, we could put one of those yellow box thingies at the top of every thread, like the one for registering, for un-registered users, warning what the section is. Or, it could be off-limits to non-users all together. There are a lot of things that need to be thought about if this gets done, but I do think that it's something that would be really useful.

[Arsik]

In the very rare chance that we get one, and it's been discussed to hell and back, and the staff pretty much came to agreement that we won't ever have one, it's going to be hidden so that only those with special permissions can enter it. It'll also prevent kiddies from joining the site and lieing about their age just so they can get access to the section for porn, realize there isn't any porn, then go and try to troll the forums because they can't look at any porn on this site. It's a hell of a lot easier to just not have it than to make a hidden forum, grant people special permissions to enter, and then keep an eye out on everyone in that section so that they don't go overboard and have to be stripped of their permissions so they can't access the section anymore. In case none of you have realized, both me and Chise are lazy, though Chise is lazier, and he's the one that has the power to make this work.

Also Luffy, if we do do what I suggested, you wouldn't have access to it anyways. You only joined today, and how can we trust someone that's using a Tor to access this site? I mean, if you can't just use your own IP address to access the site, then quite frankly, you're not the type to be given said special access anyways.

[newnameforyou]

That's what you think. Mabination NEEDS a special skin, because it attracts members. Mabination NEEDS forum events, because it keeps members.

So since I can tell you why we need what you listed, tell me why we NEED a section for stuff rated 18+ when you could just go to other sites.

Actually, list pros and cons of having the "Mature Discussion Section".You have TERRIBLE logic. That's the same as saying mabination needs an adult section so people can discuss adult things without having to do so at a different forum.

@whyrainfalls: You say if we allow 16+ inside we are saying it's okay to have underage sex? Lol? You do realise that 16 year olds are at the legal age to have sex in nearly all countries?

[newnameforyou]

Why make it that complicated, Curil? Just make it so people with a birthday date older than 16 can see the forum. Giving each person hand picked access is eh, dumb, what's the point of the section then if only 10 people can see it and post in it?

If you're uptight about that then just make a "Life & Relationship" forum wherein people can ask about problems like Hanna's without getting their thread locked instead of a real adult section.

[Moppy]

There are two different kinds of mature discussions, actual mature discussions and discussions that are inappropriate. Phunkie has already stated that we have had many mature discussions and he is right. However, we have had mature discussions become inappropriate by either media, offensive talk or the situation being taken lightly. So basically, anything that breaks the rules stops the thread from working out. To think a mature section would have considerably altered rules would be foolish, as we still want to make sure everyone is comfortable on every part of the forums. Some mature discussions have worked out, some haven't and that relies entirely on the users. Perhaps it's unfair for our immature users to ruin interesting discussion by our more mature users but we can solve most troublemakers with a ban, much like we did with this uptight troublemaker called Virtue. Dearest Luffy, we don't need a section for mature content, as the Library, BR and General Discussions has been sufficing for all of this time already.

By the way, why would a new user who just joined the day be so compelled to declare such a flaw in our forums? You seem to know Phunkie as the "less uptight" mod, which is interesting as you wouldn't know him being a new member.

[Time]

Why make it that complicated, Curil? Just make it so people with a birthday date older than 16 can see the forum. Giving each person hand picked access is eh, dumb, what's the point of the section then if only 10 people can see it and post in it?

If you're uptight about that then just make a "Life & Relationship" forum wherein people can ask about problems like Hanna's without getting their thread locked instead of a real adult section.

Whats the point of making an age restricted section if anyone who wants to can create a new account with a proper age?

Also, I have a feeling Fal would never go for this.

[Hitaki]

You're amazing.

If we had a mature forum, we could talk about all the amazing things we would do to each other.

Sorry, I don't swing that way :v

Anyway, here's my take :

Most of us are mature here, and most of us know about mature content and whatnot. That doesn't mean we really need a separate forum to discuss mature content. I'm pretty sure most, if not all of us, are fine with keeping such discussions private, or going to another place that actually allows it.

Anyway, I'm not against the idea, but the staff and other members would probably sh*tstorm over it. So it's not going to happen.

[Byte]

You have TERRIBLE logic. That's the same as saying mabination needs an adult section so people can discuss adult things without having to do so at a different forum.

@whyrainfalls: You say if we allow 16+ inside we are saying it's okay to have underage sex? Lol? You do realise that 16 year olds are at the legal age to have sex in nearly all countries?

You didn't make the list. Trolling is trolling. :)


Why make it that complicated, Curil? Just make it so people with a birthday date older than 16 can see the forum. Giving each person hand picked access is eh, dumb, what's the point of the section then if only 10 people can see it and post in it?

If you're uptight about that then just make a "Life & Relationship" forum wherein people can ask about problems like Hanna's without getting their thread locked instead of a real adult section.


Whats the point of making an age restricted section if anyone who wants to can create a new account with a proper age?

Also, I have a feeling Fal would never go for this.

^That



Sorry, I don't swing that way :v

Anyway, here's my take :

Most of us are mature here, and most of us know about mature content and whatnot. That doesn't mean we really need a separate forum to discuss mature content. I'm pretty sure most, if not all of us, are fine with keeping such discussions private, or going to another place that actually allows it.

Anyway, I'm not against the idea, but the staff and other members would probably sh*tstorm over it. So it's not going to happen.

Most of us? You mean the 102/6,651 members? http://mabination.com/mabination-community/general-discussions/everything-else/3045-whats-your-irl-age-11.html

Only 44 of them have the slightest clue of what "true maturity" is.

[Hanna]

This is my fault for making those threads anyway.
So if the OP is banned may I have the honors of
/requesting lock ?

[Byte]

This is my fault for making those threads anyway.
So if the OP is banned may I have the honors of
/requesting lock ?

The threads you made are fine, as long as you don't go into detail. Note how I used "Flavoured Protection", that can mean tons of things. =)

[Hitaki]

Only 44 of them have the slightest clue of what "true maturity" is.

I'm talking about active members. Not only that, but 3/4s of those 6,651 members probably made accounts here and never use them. By mature I mean are old enough and already have an understanding of the topic. Common sense much?

[Byte]

I'm talking about active members. Not only that, but 3/4s of those 6,651 members probably made accounts here and never use them. By mature I mean are old enough and already have an understanding of the topic. Common sense much?

There are still about 2-3k ACTIVE users. "Active meaning 2 weeks since last login"

[Fracture]

Just because there are 16 year olds who have already had sex, doesn't mean that there are 16 year olds who should have already had sex. Allowing 16 year olds into a mature forum talking about sex is encouraging them to be involved in sex. If Mabination allows 16 year olds into a mature forum, it makes a statement that it thinks underage sex is okay.

I'm not saying 16 year olds shouldn't be talking about sex. I'm saying Mabination shouldn't be where they do it.

Like I already said, it's not up to me, and this is just my own opinion.



It's not encouraging it, it's allowing an opportunity to dispel many of the facts about it to which many people are woefully ignorant. Not only that, but it is not underage-- 16 is the age of consent in Canada and, I believe, the states. By that logic, too, 12+ can have sex as well. There are just age limitations to avoid exploitation.

Finally, "should have had sex" is not a valid argument in the least. The age of sexual activity is completely personal. It depends on whether the individual is ready or not, and if it's what they want to do. There is no "right age" to have sex.



What do we call people who have little interest in topics other than sex? I call them perverts. There's a difference in someone who dabbles in the mature forum and someone who lives in the mature forum. Posting in sexually oriented topics is not bathing in sex, but posting solely in sexually oriented topics is swimming in it.

It may be the only thread they feel like posting in here, but that doesn't mean it's the only thing they do on the internet.

[Hitaki]

There are still about 2-3k ACTIVE users. "Active meaning 2 weeks since last login"

And most of those users don't even post.

[Byte]

And most of those users don't even post.

They don't have to? I'm just glad most of them know how to use the search function... otherwise they would. ;)

[Hitaki]

They don't have to? I'm just glad most of them know how to use the search function... otherwise they would. ;)

And there you go forgetting the point of the discussion. Again.

1) As stated previously in this thread, if the board was added and only visible for members 18+, then I'm sure it would be okay. It's the user's fault if they make an account above the age of 18 and aren't that actual age or can't handle the content.

2) Forty-four members out of one hundred and two mature? What? Show me these statistics. A Poll does not capture the total amount. Not to mention that poll doesn't count all the active members. There are members that completely skip over threads like that and if by definition of active is logged in during the past two weeks, then they probably never even heard of such a thread, let alone decided to vote in it.

3) I'm justifying the fact that Most of us are Mature. Mature as in we have a grasp of the subject. When I was in Middle School, my classmates were already talking about sex and masturbation, even other kids that were around my age back then on the internet.

4) Your posts justifies the fact that if we are going to have such a board that the staff, rather you in this case, will sh*t themselves over it and how bad it can be to "minors".

5) This does not mean I want the board. I couldn't care less whether it's added or not, it will just be another discussion board. I am simply countering your barking for every time you jump on me for every small thing.

[Arsik]

And there you go forgetting the point of the discussion. Again.

1) As stated previously in this thread, if the board was added and only visible for members 18+, then I'm sure it would be okay. It's the user's fault if they make an account above the age of 18 and aren't that actual age or can't handle the content.

2) Forty-four members out of one hundred and two mature? What? Show me these statistics. A Poll does not capture the total amount. Not to mention that poll doesn't count all the active members. There are members that completely skip over threads like that and if by definition of active is logged in during the past two weeks, then they probably never even heard of such a thread, let alone decided to vote in it.

3) I'm justifying the fact that Most of us are Mature. Mature as in we have a grasp of the subject. When I was in Middle School, my classmates were already talking about sex and masturbation, even other kids that were around my age back then on the internet.

4) Your posts justifies the fact that if we are going to have such a board that the staff, rather you in this case, will sh*t themselves over it and how bad it can be to "minors".

5) This does not mean I want the board. I couldn't care less whether it's added or not, it will just be another discussion board. I am simply countering your barking for every time you jump on me for every small thing.

Pika, there's a difference between maturity (physical age), maturity (being able to understand mature topics, what you're talking about) and maturity (knowing when it's okay to talk about it, and how to talk about it, which is what the staff is talking about). As proven by the OP, he wanted a section where people can talk about more adult things, as long as it's kept mature, and the first thread he makes after this one, he's practically talking about how he got anal and how it hurt him in the process. If he said that he had anal sex, and would like tips on how to improve, keeping a mature tone and not "So I had anal and now my dick hurts", it would have been fine. But clearly, as the OP proved, we can't have this section because people won't be mature about it.

And why are you defending this idea. It's not like you'll have access to it anyways.

[Hitaki]

And why are you defending this idea. It's not like you'll have access to it anyways.


5) This does not mean I want the board. I couldn't care less whether it's added or not, it will just be another discussion board. I am simply countering your barking for every time you jump on me for every small thing.

In other words it's because I clearly don't like Byte and love proving him wrong when I have a chance.

[Arsik]

In other words it's because I clearly don't like Byte and love proving him wrong when I have a chance.

Then don't bother Pika. You are seriously getting pretty close to getting banned, and no one wants to see you go, but if you continue to try and cause unnecessary drama, then we will have to do it, so stop.

[Phunkie]

Honestly, how many people on this forum can offer good sexual advice anyway?

I don't think many of us have that much experience.

It'd be either a dead forum or a forum full of spam, like I said before. For any other appropriate topics, we have other forums already.

[Fracture]

Edit: Nvm, already said by the time my browser posted.

[Osayidan]

Mature forums sounds too much like a concept that can turn into a free for all pornography distribution system. Do not want.

Mature discussions on the other hand are something that technically should be allowed here as long as it's all in good context. I see nothing wrong with people talking about their personal issues, be they of a sexual nature or not, as long as they realize there's no need to go into intimate details. There's no rules about this because it's impossible to define content with static rule sets. Judgment has to be used, so those posting should use their best so mods don't have to do it for them.

[Byte]

And there you go forgetting the point of the discussion. Again.

1) As stated previously in this thread, if the board was added and only visible for members 18+, then I'm sure it would be okay. It's the user's fault if they make an account above the age of 18 and aren't that actual age or can't handle the content.

2) Forty-four members out of one hundred and two mature? What? Show me these statistics. A Poll does not capture the total amount. Not to mention that poll doesn't count all the active members. There are members that completely skip over threads like that and if by definition of active is logged in during the past two weeks, then they probably never even heard of such a thread, let alone decided to vote in it.

3) I'm justifying the fact that Most of us are Mature. Mature as in we have a grasp of the subject. When I was in Middle School, my classmates were already talking about sex and masturbation, even other kids that were around my age back then on the internet.

4) Your posts justifies the fact that if we are going to have such a board that the staff, rather you in this case, will sh*t themselves over it and how bad it can be to "minors".

5) This does not mean I want the board. I couldn't care less whether it's added or not, it will just be another discussion board. I am simply countering your barking for every time you jump on me for every small thing.

Hey buddy, I agree with the idea of having one. Oh sh- say what? Re-read the thread.

Osay is right, but the thread Hanna made went into detail, which is nono.

[Compass]

kids younger than 10 browse these forums and are as innocent as can be, I'd prefer to keep them that way so they can stay on the forums.
I think we should be reminded of this quote.
Lol.

[Lolicon]

im obvsly mater dan u

Haha, jk. I've seen my fair share of.. Things. I SWEAR ITS BY ACCIDENT. But a mature section would just bring an all out flamewar.

[Taycat]

Mature forums sounds too much like a concept that can turn into a free for all pornography distribution system. Do not want.

Mature discussions on the other hand are something that technically should be allowed here as long as it's all in good context. I see nothing wrong with people talking about their personal issues, be they of a sexual nature or not, as long as they realize there's no need to go into intimate details. There's no rules about this because it's impossible to define content with static rule sets. Judgment has to be used, so those posting should use their best so mods don't have to do it for them.

So vajayjay and peen?

Silly words.

Set it like that.

Go go go.

[Finnea]

I missed all of this but I have one thing to say:

Why would a fan forum made about two games need a mature section? Sure we have an awesome community here, and I have personally said alot to them that could be interpreted as inappropriate, but I still don't see the point. There's no way to make the particular content secure in the first place anyway. Users can always lie about their age.

So if you feel the need to ask us about personal advice, go ahead. However keep in mind that there is no need to go into explicit detail, and if you feel that a person needs to know it because he/she is not getting the full picture, then pm them.

On a different note, what I did was white text what I said that was riskee. What are the mod's views on that?