how to 1:30 laghodessa raid

[ionexx]

http://img692.imageshack.us/img692/8342/201012190007.jpg
obviously some people gonna say "8 spear lann ftw!!"
but no, we're not gonna do that, we're not going to be jerks who kicked every job beside spear lann for raids

so here's what we gonna do

we need:

5 spear lann (4 at minimum but 5 is safer)
1 scythe evie
2 other class

here's what to do

first everyone go make some mess on room 1, when the small boss spider comes out, take him out, as he's near death, 1 member of party should go straight to door, when the door's opened,
NOBODY loots, immediately press F12 to get to the next room

okay here's the trick start

ROLE : EVIE scythe
>on boss room run straight forward
http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/1471/64831014.jpg
when u are between two pillar before facing the bosses ( x mark)
start doing LLLLR smash, and immediately do a bloody thread on the lagho

what's the use?
it might look small , but it plays an important role to the speed run

when u do the bloody thread snap, the two spider get tied up close to each other, so that all the damage could be done effectively to both of them at the same time by spear lanns, and it keeps the two spider pinned down at the same time.

dont stop, keep on bloody threading them to keep them from spreading



ROLE : Spear LANN
> not much to say, spin the spider face off, but please note
when the spider is not yet pinned to the wall, ONLY SPIN them, DO NOT gliding fury them, so that lagho wont flinch sideway making it moving away from giant spider.

after they both pinned to the wall, u can start gliding them as u like



ROLE : OTHER classes
>bring some light of plara, when u enter the boss room, immediately throw one to the boss, making scythe evie's bloody threading a bit more safer
> after the spider pinned to the wall, join the rest and beat them to pulp

this is as far as i can share, basicly u can do it with 8 lann spear, but that would be selfish of u, this game is not design just for spear lann only. do appreciate the other class

PS : please dont make this thread a "which is better spear lann or sword lann" flame, we've all seen enough on the nexon forum...

cheers :thumb:

may ur free boat tommorow success :2thumb:

[Phanterz]

Nice strategy.
Unfortunately this never works with strangers.
And it's unlikely to work in the first place due to lag.

[fantasy555]

pretty well known. as long as yu have 2 spear lanns it should be easy .
light of plara have everyone attk the boss at one side to "shuffle" the boss into a corner, then kill him

[Singleuseonly]

Nice strategy.
Unfortunately this never works with strangers.
And it's unlikely to work in the first place due to lag.

This =[

In other news: The scythe evie's guild name sounds dangerously close to Flying Panties...

[ionexx]

This =[

In other news: The scythe evie's guild name sounds dangerously close to Flying Panties...

well, that boat im in is a stranger, sure we got the first 2 run a 4 - 5 minute runs, but after a while the party syncronize and the run goes smoothly, the key is communication
lag issues? well, i've done it right? so i guess anyone could do it too

ps : im the scythe evie :what:



pretty well known. as long as yu have 2 spear lanns it should be easy .
light of plara have everyone attk the boss at one side to "shuffle" the boss into a corner, then kill him

i dont know, we've tried it with 3 lann, and it became much much slower, because the knock down rate get cuts drastically

[PandaSong]

I find communication to be a problem in PUGs. >_> Or even in friend runs, for a bit.. until they learn that they're going to die o_o Ugly nasty deaths, then we all die! *cackles* >_>! It's just that people have a problem accepting that there is more than "hack and slash" or more than their way of doing things.

o_o On another note, that many Lanns spinning would probably kill my computer and also lag me to hell and back. The Light of Plara strategy works well though, if everyone knows not to spam their bombs at the same time.

[fantasy555]

that all depends on whether or not yu know how to shuffle the boss.
im pretty sure most of yu noticed, but there are times in hidden or nightmare runs where yu can " shuffle" the boss to the corner.

focus yur attk in one single point . i hate idiots who attk from another side cause theyre scared theyll get hit. if everyone focuses their attk on a single point yu can easily shuffle the boss.

this applies to spear lanns because of their knockdown and spam skills

[ionexx]

no offense but why did u say yu and yurs instead of u and urs? or maybe just plain you and yours???:what:

well, i assume u also know that lagho get break off point at his/her right front leg, sometime, spinning accidently trigger the side-flinching animation that's a result from break off point get hitted, so i say, scythe evie is still needed to make sure thing is organized

well, people got different boat style though, and i prefer this one

by the way panda, i also hear from my guild mates, that u can also do a pretty neat run with a party consist of a full scythe evie :awesome:
never tried it though :lol:

[guy]

dude you don't even know how the timer works eh? You finished in 2:21, not 1:30. Finish in 15 mins actually starts at 16:00.

[Baku]

Considering how the timer starts when you are still on the boat, I'd say 1:30 is a fine approximation.

[ionexx]

Considering how the timer starts when you are still on the boat, I'd say 1:30 is a fine approximation.
^
about to answer the same
thanks bakuryu~

[guy]

Considering how the timer starts when you are still on the boat, I'd say 1:30 is a fine approximation.

well seeing how most people measure from when the run ends on normal time saying that this was a 1:30 run and showing a win in 15 minutes is kinda deceptive.

[heretic304]

I don't see how that's deceptive. If you start a 15 minute Oath, the timer starts at 16:00 the moment you hit start. The opening animation thing for 8 players is about 48 seconds, so that leaves the party with 15:12 to finish the battle. Their timer shows 13:39, which implies that they took 1:33 to finish the quest, which is roughly 1:30.

If you're wondering why would they give you 1 extra minute to finish the battle on a 15 minute oath, the reasoning behind it is simple: each person gets 6 seconds of face time on the boat before leaving. Since the absolute maximum party size in this game is 10 players, that totals up to 60 seconds, or 1 minute.

[ionexx]

im showing a win in 15 minute just to make clear that this is a 15 minutes oath, and not another oath that gives u start time of 60:00, its meant to avoid misperception

why fuss over tiny detail~

[heretic304]

People like to fuss over details I guess ~_~ So it's better to explicitly explain exactly how the timer works =D

[ionexx]

yep i guess for some people its really fun to fuss over people's mistakes, even it's just a small details

thanks anyway heretic, for the explanations, i have never been good with those:lol:

[Miyumi]

Did Jon post something about us doing a guild run and getting 13:59 yet? His e-peen is overwhelming -_-

[ionexx]

Did Jon post something about us doing a guild run and getting 13:59 yet? His e-peen is overwhelming -_-


what i see is papa posting a 13:59 run on the media section

oh wow, i noticed that fantasy555 is banned, any1 know what's the cause?

[xJac]

I personally don't like the 1:30 description. Because usually I run on macha, for the title.

Sometimes you want to fill up the slot asap, like during free rides, so I will ask my friends. They will ask, how fast is your run. I would tell them the time when boss died, which is usually between 57:30~57:00. Then my friends wouldn't want to join since they just finished a 2:30 run, in 15 min or less. I would have to explain to them that for 15 min or less you get one extra min in the beginning, so you have to add one extra min. By the time they wanted to join, the slot's already taken.

It also irritates me when someone think 12:00 = 57:00, and refuse to try for faster tactic.

[ionexx]

well nothin i can do, title cant be changed, beside, without the freeboat event and the double AP event, 1:30 3:00 4:00 dont give that much differences

[Valedrel]

Lol we figured this trick out(exept for the whole web snap move) during the weekend events. My guild rounded up some of the common players and we just spammed Lagho and our best time was 57:10. There was only one Lann, three Fiona's and the rest were Evie's. Fiona's move toward Lagho as soon as possible and someone throws a Light of Plara, usually we are able to get them together after a few smashes. It got a little dicey when the spiders got a little over exited and just kept spamming the jump attack.

[JkTyrant]

I personally don't like the 1:30 description. Because usually I run on macha, for the title.

Sometimes you want to fill up the slot asap, like during free rides, so I will ask my friends. They will ask, how fast is your run. I would tell them the time when boss died, which is usually between 57:30~57:00. Then my friends wouldn't want to join since they just finished a 2:30 run, in 15 min or less. I would have to explain to them that for 15 min or less you get one extra min in the beginning, so you have to add one extra min. By the time they wanted to join, the slot's already taken.

It also irritates me when someone think 12:00 = 57:00, and refuse to try for faster tactic.

Don't do lagho runs during 2x/free boat runs...do duo/three person Hidden run with the oath "Win with 3 players or less", with a good party u can finish a run in 3~4 mins, with more exp.

Example, during 2x event, I did duo run with a spear lann (I'm sword lann), and we managed to do 22~ ish runs for 104k exp per run (includes Guild Bonus), and racked easy 2M exp.

EDIT: It is also necessary that you do such speed runs with experienced players (not necessarily a spear lann) fiona/evie are also good for a 3-player pt speed run. Sometimes i've tried to do speed runs with beginners, and its really fustrating haha.