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Yogurticecream
04-13-2010, 01:30 AM
Before reading this guide, you can check this one on Simple Wool Collection (http://www.mabiguru.com/forums/guide-submission-hall/23293-simple-wool-collection.html).

Ever seen sheep stuck to trees or within the walls of Dunbarton?
Want to know how it is done?
If so, this guide is for you.

*UPDATE* I've uploaded a video of how this is done. To be watched with annotations. Part of my video is screwed up unfortunately.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OPiqkafRTlw

The next video is from Archibald, which can be used as reference for sticking sheep in Emain Macha. You can choose to log out of the wolf and log in again, just to save time.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y8XfPPMe4iE&feature=player_embedded

Why do we want to trap sheep?

Trapping sheep stops the sheep from moving every few singles, making it easier for people to shear them. This saves precious time, clicking, stamina and knife durability.

This has been done for years by people who play on Mabinogi, in order for them to easily deal with weaving training or doing part-time jobs for holy water (mainly the Qilia healer and Dunbarton church jobs).

Stuck sheep usually only get unstuck after every Wednesday's maintenance, which is when the server is being reset. (Stuck sheep, may however, struggle around the obstacle and become unstuck if it is not properly trapped.)

Pros

- Plenty of sheep everywhere, many channels
- You only need to stick them once every week
- You can stick as many of them as you like, so long there is an obstacle nearby.
- Cost-effective and provides convenience to you.

Cons

- You need a pet wolf (that means Nx and real life $$$).
- You can use a monster wolf that is tamed by you but it is not as effective and is limited to certain places.
- Sheep may get unstuck.
- People with pet wolves may also deliberately/undeliberately unstick these sheep.
- Takes time to do, so you are limited to sticking sheep with your daily pet summon time limit.
- Sheep that are not close to any obstacle cannot be stuck.
- These sheep are considered public property of Mabinogi (free for all), so people who don't stick sheep may go into a shearing competition with you.

Requirements for trapping sheep:

1. Obstacle
2. Sheep(s) (the ones running around outside of towns)
3. Pet wolf * (You need Nx for this. Think of it as a one-time investment.)


http://img254.imageshack.us/img254/8866/sheepstickguide1.jpg

* Pet wolf can be substituted with wild wolf monster that has been tamed through Animal Taming. However, this is not as efficient as using a pet wolf, not as easily available in most places (there are no wolf monsters near Qilia), and there is a limited taming duration (a few minutes). The technique is the same, except that it is slightly harder to control since you have to run in a way such that the wolf follows you. Using this method, you can trap sheep to fences or walls with some effort, but you might not be able to trap the sheep to trees.

These are the usual obstacles where you can trap sheep to:
- Fences (e.g. Emain Macha fences on northeast field areas of the map)
- Trees (available outside of towns, eg. trees outside of Qilia Base Camp)
- Moon gates (e.g. Dunbarton moongate)
- Smaller buildings on the map (e.g. shed outside west of Dunbarton)
- Housing board (e.g. board just outside of west of Dunbarton)

You have to log in as the wolf pet to trap sheep. You have to get the sheep to notice the wolf, and then observe how it runs.

Knowing the behaviour of sheep

To be able to trap sheep effectively, you need to know how sheep move when wolves get close to them.

When it notices the wolf, sheep will run away to a safe distance from a wolf and stop there until the wolf's next move.

Sheep usually run in either a somewhat linear fashion, or in an angle away from wolf (usually around 90 to 120 degrees, clockwise or anticlockwise). There may be times where you are not able to tell how the sheep moves, understand that this is ok.


http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/5676/sheepstickguide2.jpg

If you do not know how the sheep moves, either log off from the wolf, or chase the sheep as far as you can from the original position. When the sheep is too far away, it will walk back in a somewhat linear fashion (sheep resets on its own). After that, try to "scare" it again with the hope that you will be able to understand how the sheep is moving on the next try.


http://img198.imageshack.us/img198/1460/sheepstickguide3b.jpg

How to know where to trap sheep and how to trap sheep

In this guide, I'll be mainly covering trapping sheep to trees, because I find that trees are by far the most challenging obstacle to trap sheep to. The method is all the same, so if you know how to trap sheep to trees, you will also know the way of trapping sheep to fences, moon gates etc.

Down to the details. For example, you have this situation where there is a sheep where you want to stick the sheep to this tree.

(I should have used a tree picture, just take it as a tree even though I put a fence picture on it.)


http://img40.imageshack.us/img40/2189/sheepstickguide3a.jpg

The point where I marked an "x" will be where you will want to get the sheep to, in order to stick it to the tree.

Why point "x" and not some other position at the tree? When the wolf is gone or when sheep runs too far away from the original position (as mentioned earlier), the sheep will "reset" and move towards the original position in a somewhat linear fashion.

Why did I say somewhat linear? Many times, sheep will just walk around the obstacle along the way back.

You will have to stick the sheep as close as possible to the obstacle at the start. When there is an obstacle in place, it is less likely that sheep will walk around it and go back to the original position.


http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/8131/sheepstickguide3c.jpg

If the sheep moves linearly, then your job is really simple. You just need to chase it linearly to that position and then log out from the wolf pet.


http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/4249/sheepstickguide4a.jpg

If the sheep moves in an angle, things are not as straightforward. You can probably reset the sheep, but I think it is a waste of time and you may not get the sheep to move in a linear fashion on the next try. The way to trap sheep will be to first observe how the sheep move, and constantly reposition the wolf in such a way that the sheep moves towards the final spot.

To reposition, position yourself (as pet wolf) as far away from the sheep. This probably means running round in an arc to the new spot, while the sheep stalls there.


http://img39.imageshack.us/img39/2632/sheepstickguide4b.jpg

When you are done with getting the sheep to "x", log out and log in again to check if the sheep is being stuck. If it's stuck, happy shearing!

So, this is the end of the guide. If there's anything else that I've missed out, just say it. If you want to ask something about this, feel free to ask.

Hopefully with more people knowing how to trap sheep, everyone will have an easier time with wool with more available sheep that's trapped. If you ever meet someone who trapped sheep and let you share them, do say thank you, for it takes some skill, time and effort to trap sheep, and kindness on their part to allow you to use these sheep.

Credits
- Mabinogiworld wiki for the picture of sheep and wolf pets



P.S. This guide is for Mabination. It should not appear elsewhere without my permission.

Osayidan
05-19-2010, 08:20 PM
I'm failing horribly at this D:
Trying it in emain, the sheep are very hard to get stuck behind the fence, and once they get there i go on my human but they start to walk around again and don't stick to the fence.

Wolf is almost out of summon time already and I think only 1 sheep is successfully stuck.

Zyrus
05-19-2010, 10:57 PM
The sheep need to be stuck on side of fence so they cannot return to they're normal location. aka home location. So you have to take them around the fence. Once you have them pinned on the fence hold wolf pet there for a few seconds. The sheep will do a double glitch towards the fence. At that time they are pinned. However if you walk near them before they are de-aggroed they will move again. Prevent this by running around the pond near the sheep field. The sheep will be de-aggroed once you hit the location where the music changes.

Pro tip: Walk while moving the wolf give some space for the sheep to slowly move away. If you are running at them its hard to control them.

Second pro tip: Use the outerfences to stick. The inner ones are harder and everyone will steal your wool. They rarely look at sheep stuck on outerfences of off channels. Meaning you can have all your own sheep to yourself normally.

I'm the King of sheep sticking on my server.

:lol:

:thumb: +rep yogurt

Zyrus
05-20-2010, 08:49 AM
Logging out is slow for those of us with not so good connections/equipment. It takes me about 1 min to logout then back in. So its faster for me to just run around the pond.

Yogurticecream
05-20-2010, 09:18 AM
No problem at all, I'll add the video to the guide. More is always better. Emain is convenient, just that there might be too many people going after sheep wool over there. Which is why I use trees instead of fences when I need to stick sheep at my special spot.

Just a note, logging out of the wolf character and logging back to the wolf is much faster.


I'm failing horribly at this D:
Trying it in emain, the sheep are very hard to get stuck behind the fence, and once they get there i go on my human but they start to walk around again and don't stick to the fence.

Wolf is almost out of summon time already and I think only 1 sheep is successfully stuck.
You have to stick it on the opposite side of the fence, and close enough to the fence so that they won't walk around it.

Osayidan
05-20-2010, 10:00 AM
I was putting them on the other side, problem is they were staying too far from the fence on the town side, so they would walk around instead of become stuck. That problem solved itself naturally after about 40 minutes, the sheep walked around and finally became stuck on their own. I'll probably do this every week on all channels except ch1, even if 2 or 3 others are collecting wool at the same time the sheep will create it faster than we can get it.

pinkkea
05-20-2010, 09:33 PM
I'm sorry, because I know this is supposed to be serious, but I'm trying not to laugh here. :XD:

Do you think you could do the same thing with cows? I usually don't need wool for anything, but milk is free food (drink?). Huh.
But then, I don't have NX, so...

Osayidan
05-20-2010, 09:41 PM
There's no real need to stick cows like with sheep.
You can get a lot of milk pretty quick, but when you need countless thousands of wool, if those sheep are moving you will go insane.

But to answer your question I don't think you can, I was close to some cows while working on sheep with my wolf, and they didn't seem to care.

Zyrus
05-21-2010, 12:39 AM
One cow told me to eat moar chicken.

Yogurticecream
05-21-2010, 04:30 AM
Milk makes you fat though. I think you're better off drinking bottled water.
I've seen cow stuck before but I'm not sure how it's done. Maybe you need to use tamed wild wolf.

Aubog007
05-21-2010, 05:26 AM
Fantastic guide and video. to the both of you.