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Chihaya
04-04-2011, 08:27 AM
Starting Generation 14, Season 3, Ego weapons are apparently getting a boost.

1) The repair rate equations are modified so that 100% repair rate is possible
2) Incarnation Damage has been Increased, significantly.

In the end, don't trash your egos

Source: http://mabinogi.gameabout.com/news/view.ga?id=4&news_id=2062

Taycat
04-04-2011, 08:36 AM
-feeds ego forever-

Can't wait.

casshem
04-04-2011, 09:01 AM
"However, the rating is 100, but 99% will be 100%."

다만, 숙련도가 100이 되면 99%가 아니라 100%가 되는 것이다.

Dixon
04-04-2011, 09:16 AM
This was confirmed weeks ago I thought.

Oizen
04-04-2011, 09:39 AM
I knew there was a good reason to keep my ego'd Dblade!

Now I just need to get its social to lv. 21...

2 more levels ._.

Kingofrunes
04-04-2011, 11:06 AM
I was never planning on trashing my ego to begin with.

Just got Narsil up to 118 Damage. She's getting up there.

Currently Rank B Incarnation. Getting close to level 31 Social.

Must get something other than Yellow!

Yogurticecream
04-04-2011, 11:13 AM
I somewhat knew this was coming. I was expecting nerfs to new content or improvements to existing content once seemingly imbalanced items (i.e. Avon flaming swords and overupgrades) were released.

Joker
04-04-2011, 12:37 PM
Old News is Old but o well

they should add special ego buffs at social 31 and up

Ayamo
04-04-2011, 12:38 PM
http://mabination.com/threads/21826-G14S3-Details-%28No-golem-discussion%29

This has been confirmed way long ago thanks to our kr testers. There is no point making a new post on the same info, just to link a korean website that isn't even translated for non-korean readers to see....

BizarreJuju
04-04-2011, 12:46 PM
Im just waiting for some ego uncap, damage update, feeding exp boost, or "fixing the feeding bug in NA server :V"

Zid
04-04-2011, 01:36 PM
Still won't save them, though. Critical Damage special upgrade already makes regular weapons decisively more powerful than spirit weapons.

Only real way to save them, in my opinion, is to uncap ego levels and make ego feeding much easier and less expensive, to be more efficient with effort-to-damage ratio with special upgrades.

Cryosite
04-04-2011, 01:44 PM
Nah, egos have just been repurposed is all. Rather than be this super expensive elite weapon that does the best possible damage in the game, ego weapons are now that weapon you can't drop, and will never lose dura no matter how badly you abuse it. They're now backup weapons for those times when you break your main ones.

Murasaki
04-04-2011, 02:22 PM
That's what my ego's been most of the time. Just back-up. A weapon that will never beak is nice, though.

abc33kr
04-04-2011, 02:23 PM
http://mabination.com/threads/21826-G14S3-Details-%28No-golem-discussion%29

This has been confirmed way long ago thanks to our kr testers. There is no point making a new post on the same info, just to link a korean website that isn't even translated for non-korean readers to see....

hey hey don't talk to my 누나 like that. D:

She's going to be up to date with all these updates once g15 comes out cuz we are going to work together with translating the new contents.

Zeo
04-04-2011, 06:15 PM
Old news is old. This was already posted quite a while ago. Plus, we're getting more buffed ego system and it being revamped, it appears so in G15, said the developers.

Conor
04-04-2011, 06:19 PM
So all that dura I lost from 99% repairs is still gone forever, right?

Chihaya
04-04-2011, 10:23 PM
Do note that Test Servers are TEST SERVERS for a reason.

Did we get the Class System as it was originally planned? No.
Did we get Name Changing Service? No.
Did we get Dragons? No.

Basically, many things that happen on Test Servers and foreign servers may not transfer over to NA Mabinogi. I simply state that the following facts were confirmed as part of the G14 Season 3 Update, and have it as a reference for everyone.

Do note that on the link I provided, the post was made 3 days before this thread was created. Old News, hmm?

Also, I think you all should be thanking translators like abc33kr, since we're really bringing everyone up to date with the interesting stuff happening in other servers (especially the KR server, which is most advanced) that everyone won't be able to know about otherwise.

EDIT: Oh, for the people who are complaining about a non-English link? I post that merely as a reference who wants to take a quick peek at the actual article, and ask me for any questions regarding any topic on that page. You can see it that way, or just blame my teachers in high school to cite every single thing I report.

Kaeporo
04-04-2011, 10:38 PM
Old news is old. This was already posted quite a while ago. Plus, we're getting more buffed ego system and it being revamped, it appears so in G15, said the developers.

I'm looking forward to whatever changes they plan to implement. The next update window covers the May/June time frame. At least Spirit Awakening finally got some much needed love. Sword and Blunt finally have situational usefulness while Bow and Wand have gotten that much better. In particular, Spirit Bow Awakening can potentially hit up to 15 units in a 3400-5200 unit radius (dealing nearly 6k critical damage at r1) while Spirit Wand Awakening can potentially hit up to 12 targets in an 1800 unit radius. The nice thing about wand is that you can potentially hit the same target twice (dealing almost 13k damage).


So all that dura I lost from 99% repairs is still gone forever, right?

Yeah. There's no way to recover that lost durability. Sorry.


Do note that Test Servers are TEST SERVERS for a reason.

Did we get the Class System as it was originally planned? No.
Did we get Name Changing Service? No.
Did we get Dragons? No.

Basically, many things that happen on Test Servers and foreign servers may not transfer over to NA Mabinogi. I simply state that the following facts were confirmed as part of the G14 Season 3 Update, and have it as a reference for everyone.

Do note that on the link I provided, the post was made 3 days before this thread was created. Old News, hmm?

Also, I think you all should be thanking translators like abc33kr, since we're really bringing everyone up to date with the interesting stuff happening in other servers (especially the KR server, which is most advanced) that everyone won't be able to know about otherwise.

EDIT: Oh, for the people who are complaining about a non-English link? I post that merely as a reference who wants to take a quick peek at the actual article, and ask me for any questions regarding any topic on that page. You can see it that way, or just blame my teachers in high school to cite every single thing I report.

http://gallery.despair.nl/plog-content/images/public/forum/y-so-srs-2.jpg

Justified
04-04-2011, 10:49 PM
Basically, many things that happen on Test Servers and foreign servers may not transfer over to NA Mabinogi]. I simply state that the following facts were confirmed as part of the G14 Season 3 Update, and have it as a reference for everyone.

Aren't you citing a foreign server?

As far as content and balancing, we do get everything that foreign servers get. Sometimes even ahead of schedule.

Dracius
04-04-2011, 10:58 PM
That's what my ego's been most of the time. Just back-up. A weapon that will never beak is nice, though.

I think it'd be nice if they never broke, just get so angry, they do 1~1 damage, and start inflicting damage on the owner.

Yogurticecream
04-04-2011, 11:23 PM
Aren't you citing a foreign server?

As far as content and balancing, we do get everything that foreign servers get. Sometimes even ahead of schedule.
That's not always true. You don't get starlight robes or Tioz armour sold at NPCs. (Unlike the TW/CN/JP servers)
The way of distribution still varies, even if you get content.
And sometimes behind schedule (dragons are an example).

Justified
04-05-2011, 12:18 AM
That's not always true. You don't get starlight robes or Tioz armour sold at NPCs. (Unlike the TW/CN/JP servers)
The way of distribution still varies, even if you get content.
And sometimes behind schedule (dragons are an example).

I don't consider that as content, since it's purely cosmetic. It has no effect on the mechanics of the game, so unique distribution isn't counted.
Pets are often behind schedule because our generations are moving faster. Even then, we got the Crystal Deer ahead of schedule.
Balance-wise, I don't think we ever had anything behind schedule. Lots of the changes are ahead of schedule (ie. Blaze nerfs, Trinity Staff change, Signature fix).

Joker
04-05-2011, 12:26 AM
Aren't you citing a foreign server?

As far as content and balancing, we do get everything that foreign servers get. Sometimes even ahead of schedule.

technically only 1/2 true i dont see any 10k goggle caps in npc stores do you? or 38k fur trimmed equips? at fleta? sure we get the main content but not all content* (just wanted to say that)

Events.... as far as I'm concerned Korea doesnt have this many Nx events and IMO its content nexon N/A selling us out for cash... pff

Mentosftw
04-05-2011, 12:31 AM
My ego is still social level 16 .-.

Oizen
04-05-2011, 12:33 AM
My ego is still social level 16 .-.

I've been afking with my ego out, since I do that for Royal Alchemist anyway, 25% through lv. 19.

:D

Mentosftw
04-05-2011, 12:35 AM
Can't wait for ego abuse though xD

Animefreak97
04-05-2011, 01:57 AM
I still would like Critical Damage for every social gained :D

abc33kr
04-05-2011, 02:03 AM
technically only 1/2 true i dont see any 10k goggle caps in npc stores do you? or 38k fur trimmed equips? at fleta? sure we get the main content but not all content* (just wanted to say that)

Events.... as far as I'm concerned Korea doesnt have this many Nx events and IMO its content nexon N/A selling us out for cash... pff

all these gach events we have? they are the ones transfered over from KR...
D: sometimes ppl even petition to have no more gachs.

BobYoMeowMeow
04-05-2011, 02:19 AM
make 2handed sword egos better than one hand sword ego
and then the cat will believe this

Knightmehre
04-05-2011, 03:39 AM
THAT SUCKS, BECAUSE MY GLADIUS ALREADY LOST 6 DURA FROM 99% REPAIRS T.T

Kingofrunes
04-05-2011, 06:19 AM
Currently my Ego Trumps my 2 Broadswords except in crit. Replacing one of my broads with Narsil I only lose 7% crit and because I haven't hit the 300 damage range, critical S upgrades are rendered useless as R upgrades will benefit me much more.

Thus, Narsil is still my prime choice for a main weapon.

I plan to continue to invest into Narsil until she really beats the pants off my broadswords.

I know blah blah Battle Swords are better! I don't really care >.>

Nalgor
04-05-2011, 08:00 AM
make 2handed sword egos better than one hand sword ego
and then the cat will believe this

Yeah, I'm not making another ego until they do this. A day proffin casually and upgradin a 2h was better than my month old clay ego.

Chihaya
04-05-2011, 08:12 AM
Aren't you citing a foreign server?

As far as content and balancing, we do get everything that foreign servers get. Sometimes even ahead of schedule.

Provided that you're not trolling, I'd like to direct you to the following...



Did we get Name Changing Service?
Did we get Server Changing Service?
Did we get Dragons as planned, corresponding to the KR Mabi?

Oizen
04-05-2011, 09:46 AM
2 handed swords in general need a boost.

Using my fail stats...

1 1h sword does 3 hits of 45-61ish, while 1 2h sword does 2 hits of 50-90.

and if you dual weild, then just count 2h swords out.

All their good for is smashing really...

Zid
04-05-2011, 10:05 AM
Don't forget.

NA got Magic Carpet pets (G9) before KR did (G13)~

abc33kr
04-05-2011, 02:45 PM
2 handed swords in general need a boost.

Using my fail stats...

1 1h sword does 3 hits of 45-61ish, while 1 2h sword does 2 hits of 50-90.

and if you dual weild, then just count 2h swords out.

All their good for is smashing really...

2h is good for

smash-assault slash-smash combo.

it's a good combo if you don't want to play deadly human.

Murasaki
04-05-2011, 02:49 PM
I don't give a crap about small numbers.

I like my glowing pink male bow. I have fun using any LLB. Anyone that gives me a lecture will just get a "shut the hell up and let me die in peace, then D<"

Cryosite
04-05-2011, 02:55 PM
Currently my Ego Trumps my 2 Broadswords except in crit. Replacing one of my broads with Narsil I only lose 7% crit and because I haven't hit the 300 damage range, critical S upgrades are rendered useless as R upgrades will benefit me much more.

Thus, Narsil is still my prime choice for a main weapon.

I plan to continue to invest into Narsil until she really beats the pants off my broadswords.

I know blah blah Battle Swords are better! I don't really care >.>

*facepalm*

Math? Your damage is low, therefore S-types benefit you more. R-types only benefit you more if your damage is high.

Justified
04-05-2011, 03:14 PM
Provided that you're not trolling, I'd like to direct you to the following...

"As far as content and balancing"

I already said why we don't have Dragons yet. Our generations move faster so they're spaced out more. Unless you're saying that we will NEVER get Dragons, then you're just spewing nonsense.
We haven't lost any integral parts of the game, and the very few exceptions being pointed out are just a speck of dust in comparison to the things we got in advance.

We actually have MORE balancing done to our server than overseas. If I'm not mistaken, these changes did not occur overseas.
- Can't scramble aggro with mounts (including Peaca aggro exploits and demount scrambling), which was possible up through ~G10
- Can't mount during any animation phase (including Windmill and Normal Attack), which was possible up through ~G12

Can you name an actual major game aspect that we did not/will not receive?

radionoise
04-05-2011, 03:18 PM
If I had a capped Ring Bow ego (155 max) I would have ~650 max damage in trans. However, with R6 special upgrade, my Highlander Bow (81 max) would let me critical as if I had ~725 max damage at a minute fraction of the cost and effort...

I wouldn't go trashing upgraded weapons for egos, either.


- Can't mount during any animation phase (including Windmill and Normal Attack), which was possible up through ~G12

I hate that fix so much D:

Kingofrunes
04-05-2011, 09:33 PM
*facepalm*

Math? Your damage is low, therefore S-types benefit you more. R-types only benefit you more if your damage is high.

*facepalm*

I didn't check what S or R was for which is why I specifically said CRITICAL and DAMAGE seeing that I knew I'd get them wrong. I don't have mabi all the time when I type this stuff up and I don't really remember what S and R mean. I go by Red = Crit, Blue = Damage Simply because S and R make no sense! It should be C and D upgrades! That would make it much easier to remember. Or call them R and B upgrades to symbolize their colors!

My math was perfectly right, you're just being a picky person (to keep it civil).

Oh, I just came up with a way for me to remember it! *snaps fingers*

R = Red = Crit. Which means the other one S must be Damage! AHA! There we go. If I keep that in mind, I'll get them right next time.

Fracture
04-06-2011, 12:31 AM
Still have my first ego (LLB) and only 21/19 STR/SOC. I'm poor. And when I'm rich, I'm stingy. In my defense, I didn't make her as soon as egos were free, as for the longest time I figured I didn't need one. Then realized it was more efficient, most often, than upgrading/maintaining other bows.

Aubog007
04-06-2011, 01:04 AM
*facepalm*

I didn't check what S or R was for which is why I specifically said CRITICAL and DAMAGE seeing that I knew I'd get them wrong. I don't have mabi all the time when I type this stuff up and I don't really remember what S and R mean. I go by Red = Crit, Blue = Damage Simply because S and R make no sense! It should be C and D upgrades! That would make it much easier to remember. Or call them R and B upgrades to symbolize their colors!

My math was perfectly right, you're just being a picky person (to keep it civil).

Oh, I just came up with a way for me to remember it! *snaps fingers*

R = Red = Crit. Which means the other one S must be Damage! AHA! There we go. If I keep that in mind, I'll get them right next time.

Hover over stone.
Read the stone's info.
Easy xD

Kingofrunes
04-06-2011, 12:23 PM
Hover over stone.
Read the stone's info.
Easy xD

Too lazy to do that sometimes. Most of the time I'm in the mind to just quickly post and move on. *yawn*

I'm like Yukari in that regard, in that I can be quite lazy, so I don't really check my info too often.

That would also require me having mabi open. Something I can't do when I'm at work browsing these forums anyways.

takk
04-06-2011, 02:01 PM
Too lazy to do that sometimes. Most of the time I'm in the mind to just quickly post and move on. *yawn*

I'm like Yukari in that regard, in that I can be quite lazy, so I don't really check my info too often.

That would also require me having mabi open. Something I can't do when I'm at work browsing these forums anyways.

There is definitely something wrong with you.

Kingofrunes
04-06-2011, 02:19 PM
There is definitely something wrong with you.

Why thank you. Of course there's something wrong with me. I'm not a normal person. Thank you for noticing though.

Hanna
04-06-2011, 02:27 PM
I don't consider that as content, since it's purely cosmetic. It has no effect on the mechanics of the game, so unique distribution isn't counted.
Pets are often behind schedule because our generations are moving faster. Even then, we got the Crystal Deer ahead of schedule.
Balance-wise, I don't think we ever had anything behind schedule. Lots of the changes are ahead of schedule (ie. Blaze nerfs, Trinity Staff change, Signature fix).
Neko was exclusive to Japan.

Justified
04-06-2011, 02:43 PM
Neko was exclusive to Japan.

Yes, because it's an exclusive. That's by definition.

I don't see it called "Exclusive Ego Revamp!" on other servers, so obviously we can expect to get it.

Calisto
04-06-2011, 04:54 PM
Too bad ego feeding and portraits are totally screwed on NA servers, with no acknowledgement from Nexon on ever fixing either of these issues.

BizarreJuju
04-06-2011, 05:18 PM
Too bad ego feeding and portraits are totally screwed on NA servers, with no acknowledgement from Nexon on ever fixing either of these issues.

I really need the feeding fixed now, my STR is capped at 100% I can't get my ego battlehammer damage over 195 and can't feed diamonds. They have time to release some stupid pet event instead of answering ticket and investing time to fix things.

Zeo
04-06-2011, 06:27 PM
I really need the feeding fixed now, my STR is capped at 100% I can't get my ego battlehammer damage over 195 and can't feed diamonds. They have time to release some stupid pet event instead of answering ticket and investing time to fix things.

Are you sure it is not at level 50 for Str?

BizarreJuju
04-06-2011, 10:14 PM
Are you sure it is not at level 50 for Str?

Str is at lvl44 with 100% prof and has been there for weeks. Im not in the mood of training other stats right now knowing I get less exp than before this bug.


Example SS: See str
http://img709.imageshack.us/img709/8549/mabinogi20110329001.jpg

Cryosite
04-06-2011, 10:16 PM
Female blunt spirit is so pretty. I want one now. :(

BizarreJuju
04-06-2011, 11:01 PM
Female blunt spirit is so pretty. I want one now. :(

she looks too happy, needs a spiked dog collar :V

Cryosite
04-06-2011, 11:14 PM
No. Put that on the female bow. Leave my happy muse as she is, please. *contemplates training giant alt past newbie quests*

Nibnibnib
04-07-2011, 07:57 AM
@Everyone saying "OHNOEGOSAREUSELESSBECUZOFSPECIALUPGRADES!!"

The upgrades just made some egos not worth it, directed more towards 2H egos.

Dual-wield is still worthwhile.

Full Swing egos have ALWAYS been NEXT to useless, special upgrades just made them completely useless.

Also, unless they've increased the damage 6x(OR MAYBE THEY COULD BASE IT OFF OF YOUR CHARACTER'S DAMAGE. ==), Incarnate will still be pretty useless for people who are a high level. Beginners will get more use out of it, assuming they can find a way to make enough gold to constantly feed their egos.


*facepalm*

I didn't check what S or R was for which is why I specifically said CRITICAL and DAMAGE seeing that I knew I'd get them wrong. I don't have mabi all the time when I type this stuff up and I don't really remember what S and R mean. I go by Red = Crit, Blue = Damage Simply because S and R make no sense! It should be C and D upgrades! That would make it much easier to remember. Or call them R and B upgrades to symbolize their colors!

My math was perfectly right, you're just being a picky person (to keep it civil).

Oh, I just came up with a way for me to remember it! *snaps fingers*

R = Red = Crit. Which means the other one S must be Damage! AHA! There we go. If I keep that in mind, I'll get them right next time.

Or you could think of it as "Sapphire"/"Ruby".

Karriem2
06-22-2011, 01:30 PM
Yes, because it's an exclusive. That's by definition.

I don't see it called "Exclusive Ego Revamp!" on other servers, so obviously we can expect to get it.

oh.

Kazuni
06-22-2011, 02:05 PM
The last post in this thread was over 2 months ago. Please try not to necro post. Thank you!