View Full Version : Inventory Size Change From Rebirthed Pets
truefire
09-11-2011, 08:32 AM
Okay, so with the 20k NX Nexon gave out, I decided to kick-start my very first compilation pet just cause.
The sequence was going to be: Bengal Tiger (level to 70) ---> one of the Imps (level to 56) -----> one of the Thunder Spaniels (level to 40) -----> Thunder Dragon, at which point I'd finish off with some pet kits in the hopes of getting the dragon's Windmill to r5 and hopefully smash/critical hit to r4.
Bengal Tiger is at about 64, so it should be ready for the next step in 6 days. My question is: when you rebirth a pet, what happens if the inventory size changes? I'm particularly concerned with what happens if the new pet has a smaller inventory than the old.
Valkyrio
09-11-2011, 09:51 AM
What's the benefit in rebirthing a pet? I.e. why would you do any of this
truefire
09-11-2011, 09:53 AM
What's the benefit in rebirthing a pet? I.e. why would you do any of this
Because I want to. What's the point of replying to a question you had no intention of answering?
Hiccup
09-11-2011, 10:02 AM
What's the benefit in rebirthing a pet? I.e. why would you do any of this
Pets don't have all the skills, or with the skills they do have they are capped at a certain spot. So rebirthing em gives you a nice combat pet to have. Just like it is with your chars (stronger), same with your pet.
Kaeporo
09-11-2011, 12:00 PM
Okay, so with the 20k NX Nexon gave out, I decided to kick-start my very first compilation pet just cause.
The sequence was going to be: Bengal Tiger (level to 70) ---> one of the Imps (level to 56) -----> one of the Thunder Spaniels (level to 40) -----> Thunder Dragon, at which point I'd finish off with some pet kits in the hopes of getting the dragon's Windmill to r5 and hopefully smash/critical hit to r4.
Bengal Tiger is at about 64, so it should be ready for the next step in 6 days. My question is: when you rebirth a pet, what happens if the inventory size changes? I'm particularly concerned with what happens if the new pet has a smaller inventory than the old.
This happened to me once. I don't recall losing any items.
What's the benefit in rebirthing a pet? I.e. why would you do any of this
Bengal Tiger (r5 Combat Skills)
Exploration Imp - 40MP, 16 Will
Thunder Spaniel - 33 MP, 7 Will
Thunder Dragon (r1 Thunder Breath, r6 Windmill)
Pet Training Kit (r5 Windmill, r4 Smash/Combat Mastery/Defense/etc)
Mentosftw
09-11-2011, 01:49 PM
Bengal Tiger (r5 Combat Skills)
Exploration Imp - 40MP, 16 Will
Thunder Spaniel - 33 MP, 7 Will
Thunder Dragon (r1 Thunder Breath, r6 Windmill)
Pet Training Kit (r5 Windmill, r4 Smash/Combat Mastery/Defense/etc)
Even so, that pet wouldn't be all that useful in a hardmode or elite sm. It'll serve no more than just distraction.
Aubog007
09-12-2011, 05:57 AM
Never rebirthed a pet.
Safest bet is to simply take all your items out.
Personal note, I rather use that NX for weekly RBs, or simply. Buy another pet.
Only thing those pets could do is make it so they can heal spam me longer.
But i have 10 other pets with rank 6 heal.
truefire
09-12-2011, 08:37 AM
Never rebirthed a pet.
Safest bet is to simply take all your items out.
Personal note, I rather use that NX for weekly RBs, or simply. Buy another pet.
Only thing those pets could do is make it so they can heal spam me longer.
But i have 10 other pets with rank 6 heal.
It's more of a vanity project. More along the lines of alleviating that guilt where many times in the past I whipped out a pet to train and then fell off a week later only to see it still in its early 20s after 10 weeks have passed, coupled with my desire to make a pet with the tagline "It only does everything!"
For the longest time, my very first pet (a silver fox) was my best trained pet, making it to about 45 after 4 weeks before I started slipping (that was shortly after pets were implemented in the game). I didn't have a pet that well-trained again until I managed to get my Snow Tiger to 70.
I bought two dragons--one fire, one thunder. The fire got to 70 in its first week thanks to the compensation event. Since it's unlikely we'll see an event of that magnitude going on for as long as it did again, I've been wary of training up my Thunder Dragon (I still have an unborn Crystal Deer, Guardian Spider, and Rainbow Sprite for that reason). The 20k NX was incentive for me to just pimp out one pet, if only one. Just as a shining beacon of petdom more than utility. Having a windmilling battle-mount that breathes concussive lightning, has plentiful mana and has all of its active non-life skills at rank 5+ is a goal I'd like to realize just because it's awesome in its own right.
I don't spend NX often, but when I do, it's usually on a limited edition pet or a rebirth card. But I've always wanted to indulge in at least one vanity project and this one seems worthy to me. Not because of cost or efficiency, but just because a well-groomed pet that isn't completely reduced to pet swiping/sacrifice as soon as it's born is... kinda cool. Besides, assuming I use the remainder of my free 20k NX on a rebirth card next week in the event of a second Mari victory, I spend like what? 10 dollars? For a dream mount? I'm game.
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09-15-2011, 03:06 AM
I actually could see this as a useful pet idea lol I considered a very similar path a little while back. You could have the ultimate shield basically (if you're an archer). Have a dragon with r5 WM and r6 shields just sit in front of you with WM spam AI. If you're in a room (in tara) that shoots those bolts/arrows just use magic shields, if a melee mob comes to hit you, the pets large WM radius will knock it back.
truefire
09-15-2011, 09:58 PM
I actually could see this as a useful pet idea lol I considered a very similar path a little while back. You could have the ultimate shield basically (if you're an archer). Have a dragon with r5 WM and r6 shields just sit in front of you with WM spam AI. If you're in a room (in tara) that shoots those bolts/arrows just use magic shields, if a melee mob comes to hit you, the pets large WM radius will knock it back.
Unfortunately, that wouldn't be how it worked. :( Pet skills come in two different forms: universal and exclusive. Universal skills can be used by any pet, even those that do not initially learn certain universal ones except by rebirthing. Exclusive skills are abilities usually possessed by only one or two pets that cannot be used if those pets rebirth into something else, unless their new form also possesses that exclusive skill.
Smash, Defense, Counter, Icebolt, Lightningbolt, Firebolt, Healing, Rest, and First Aid are all of the available universal skills. They can be used by all pets, regardless of rank and whether or not the pet can naturally learn them.
The mana shields are imp-only, much like Windmill is only useable by dragons and werepets, or Thunder is useable only by thunder spaniels. What does carry over from exclusive skills, however, are any stats the skill might have provided. So really, the goal for the Thunder Dragon is to make a battle-tank mount with all combat-used universal skills at rank 5 minimum, and enough of a mana pool that its mana-intensive skills don't burn it out in one or two casts (which would otherwise happen considering the costs of r5 Healing and r1 Thunder Breath).
On a random note, I am curious about whether a Thunder Dragon rebirthed from a Fire Dragon could use both breaths. I doubt it (and I don't expect anyone to be willing to waste a dragon card to find out), but that would indeed be a fun creation if it worked.
Valkyrio
09-17-2011, 01:19 AM
Pets don't have all the skills, or with the skills they do have they are capped at a certain spot. So rebirthing em gives you a nice combat pet to have. Just like it is with your chars (stronger), same with your pet.
Thanks for the actual response. I didn't realize how pets carried stuff over. Seems like more than a bit of a waste in some of these cases, but I can see how it would actually work for some pets. I wish I had done this for my gnu, it's completely useless even if it does have a decent amount of mana from the 5x event (managed to get it to level 40+)
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