The cat Needs a different ISP

[BobYoMeowMeow]

AT & T is being crap at the moment for the 3rd time
can't even load youtube videos
all the cat do is browse forums
the ratio of packets sent and received is 2:1

There's no thunderstorms or anything like that around here.

[Lan]

Move to Canada o.o

[BobYoMeowMeow]

Move to Canada o.o

NO
the cat remembers somewhere where Osayidan said something negative about Canada's ISPs.

[Lan]

NO
the cat remembers somewhere where Osayidan said something negative about Canada's ISPs.

Even then, our ISP's our better than the USA's o.o

Hmm is Verizon better?

[BobYoMeowMeow]

Even then, our ISP's our better than the USA's o.o

Hmm is Verizon better?

there is verizon in the United States.
Don't want to be involved in their networks though.

[Cannibal]

Whatever TimeWarner has, Roadrunner, it's real good.

[BobYoMeowMeow]

Whatever TimeWarner has, Roadrunner, it's real good.

how much is timewarner? owo
the cat is already complaining about AT &T

[Cannibal]

It depends on where you live.
| Time Warner Cable | Corporate (http://www.timewarnercable.com/Localization/Corporate.ashx?tid=21&linkid=29)

[BobYoMeowMeow]

The connection to the server was reset while the page was loading.
FFFUUUUUUUUUU AT & T.

[Lan]

FFFUUUUUUUUUU AT & T.

How are they still in business?

South Korean ISP's should just come to NA with their super fast networks and bankrupt the much slower companies :D...

...Wait isn't that a bad idea?

[BobYoMeowMeow]

How are they still in business?

South Korean ISP's should just come to NA with their super fast networks and bankrupt the much slower companies :D...

...Wait isn't that a bad idea?

it's easier to create a better network in South Korea than the united states
there are physical aspects such as the geography and stuff.
also, corporations are more greedy in America
how else is bill gates so rich?

Also,
At & T partnered with Apple
so apple fanboys go along with them

[Hiccup]

Comcast?

[woohoohelloppl]

At least it doesn't crash every single day like Comcast does in my area....

[Forsaken]

how much is timewarner? owo
the cat is already complaining about AT &T

Time Warner isn't much better than AT&T, however they're a bit more stable. However, when theres a lot of fires (As there always are in the late summer), if they do any re-routing, your net could go down for most of a day.

Verizon is better than AT&T, they're just more expensive. But they also don't make huge mistakes like releasing customer data to non-authorized people.

[BobYoMeowMeow]

looks there's no definite
good and convienent ISP

hopefully google's not a jerk with their future ISP operations
Google has practically an infinite amount of ads

[Compass]

Comcast?
I agree with brad
When I had Comcast/Infinity it was super fast and stuff and didn't lag in mabinogi and never got connection problems.
But now I have to deal with Verizon. I get slow internet I had to call verizon numerous times so I can get a new modem.
I'm not sure if it's the modem's fault(Westell 6100F) but it is never fast and the customer support is horrible.

Oh and by the way isn't AT&T dial-up?

[BobYoMeowMeow]

I agree with brad
When I had Comcast/Infinity it was super fast and stuff and didn't lag in mabinogi and never got connection problems.
But now I have to deal with Verizon. I get slow internet I had to call verizon numerous times so I can get a new modem.
I'm not sure if it's the modem's fault(Westell 6100F) but it is never fast and the customer support is horrible.

Oh and by the way isn't AT&T dial-up?

AT & T is DSL

[Taycat]

I've had DSL with ATT since about 2001~

[Compass]

AT & T is DSL


I've had DSL with ATT since about 2001~

Oh sorry but at one time they were Dial-up right ? ^^;

Also I forgot that google were going to be a ISP.
It's been so long since I heard about that.
But yeah you should try Comcast/Infinity [:

[Osayidan]

North american ISPs are the worst of the developed nations.
Nowhere else is there monthly data transfer limits.
Nowhere else do you pay such ridiculous prices for such lousy bandwidth (most of which you don't even get).

It's just ridiculous. In parts of europe, and the more developed regions of asia, fast, stable, cheap internet with no data transfer limits is standard.

In the US it's not as bad but in canada we can thank the CRTC for allowing telecommunications companies to market stuff this way, and for not allowing non-canadians to own such companies, which prevents the good ISPs from other countries to bring their services here.

We're also stuck using outdated networks, with current ISPs trying to squeeze all they can out of them.

So we're just out of luck in canada. I'm quite sure the US is not a whole lot better, but they certainly are improving faster.

[Forsaken]

North american ISPs are the worst of the developed nations.
Nowhere else is there monthly data transfer limits.
Nowhere else do you pay such ridiculous prices for such lousy bandwidth (most of which you don't even get).

It's just ridiculous. In parts of europe, and the more developed regions of asia, fast, stable, cheap internet with no data transfer limits is standard.

In the US it's not as bad but in canada we can thank the CRTC for allowing telecommunications companies to market stuff this way, and for not allowing non-canadians to own such companies, which prevents the good ISPs from other countries to bring their services here.

We're also stuck using outdated networks, with current ISPs trying to squeeze all they can out of them.

So we're just out of luck in canada. I'm quite sure the US is not a whole lot better, but they certainly are improving faster.

Calling you out on this one.

Most American ISP's don't cap you or throttle you unless you're downloading outrageous amounts (I use to upload and download 100Gigs of music and files a week when I had AT&T). They're also unlikely to shut off your net (Comcast and AT&T being exclusions to that rule, but AT&T never does anything their suppose to).

In Europe, your net is monitored more strictly, and they can shut down your net without any word to you. You than will have to go through hoops to get reconnected with ANY ISP (The same deal with what happens to cyber criminals in the US... But for downloading music/movies?)

In Asia, the free internet is constantly watched by watchdog groups (In certain parts), or are limited (Some places in europe do this as well) to sites that are not on the countries blacklist.

Also, the worst developed nation with the worst internet is Australia. They have low bandwidth caps, outrageous prices, horrible connectivity, and their speeds aren't comparable to any of the ones offered in other countries.

And just a word on Google becoming an ISP: While it will hopefully teach the worst of the ISP's some lessons in how to supply a service... I wouldn't actually trust them with that much information. ISP's can log every action you send over the internet, and Google lives off of information. I love Google as a company, however to put such trust in them is just immensely idiotic.

[Infamy]

At least Australia is doing something about it... (http://business.timesonline.co.uk/tol/business/industry_sectors/technology/article6050063.ece).

[Osayidan]

The best plan I can get from the two ISPs in my city who actually own their own network (one owns the TV cables network, the other owns the phone network) is ~50 Mbps down, and 1 (yes, ONE, Mbps up). The actual 50 Mbps is the cable one, it is not guaranteed since on that kind of setup the more people on the wire the less bandwidth you get depending on whose doing what. The average you get is maybe 10 Mbps guaranteed.

The download limit is 60 GB per month, go over it and it's 1.50$ per GB.

It costs about 75$ a month, if you have a year contract and also use them for television + phone. For internet alone on a month by month plan, it's closer to 100$ per month.

And that's the best available to me here. If I want better I have to be a registered company or organization, and pay truckloads of money.

There are other ISPs, however they use those two networks, meaning all the traffic shaping and network issues you would get with them you get anyways. The only advantage is some offer plans with no transfer limits, however that won't last long since the CRTC is likely (if they haven't already) going to allow ISPs who own the networks to bill by usage (probably per GB), meaning the smaller ones who rent the network will either get owned, or also impose limits.

I don't know how bad the american ISPs are, but they were ranked just 1 or 2 slots above canada, and canada is 4th worse (as of 2008 or 2009) out of about 30 countries.