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Spartaaaaa
07-05-2010, 12:55 PM
It should be a trainable skill so that one can increase the success rate of collecting water. Failing at collecting water is rather embarrassing and time consuming.

Taran
07-05-2010, 01:06 PM
I would find the skill to be a waste of ap

Sleeperdial
07-05-2010, 01:11 PM
How about potentially collecting holy water and potions instead of regular water.

Zack
07-05-2010, 01:18 PM
How about potentially collecting holy water and potions instead of regular water.

That's a pretty cool idea :P I'd rank that on a mule or something. It'd be nice to see the HW price and 100 pots drop.

Phunkie
07-05-2010, 01:40 PM
Oh man, I know!

You could rank up Collecting Water to Rank 1 and create (through the use of Potion Making) PEE!!

You could then fabricate Pee Water Crystals through the Steam Ovens in Taillteann and shoot them out with a Water Cylinder!

Oh man, soaking someone with hot pee water doesn't sound too fun. :)

paladin
07-05-2010, 03:03 PM
You could get like pure water
Then bring it to the chruch for it to be become holy

Akemisumi
07-05-2010, 03:29 PM
Although it is pretty embarrassing to fail to get water...it'd be a waste of AP. :c

ToriKitsune
07-05-2010, 05:18 PM
Although it is pretty embarrassing to fail to get water...it'd be a waste of AP. :c

Especially when you're getting it from a lake/river, while it's raining.

Serathx
07-05-2010, 06:07 PM
....Wut.
Also, failing at collecting water is proof that Devcat hates us.

Okitaru
07-05-2010, 07:13 PM
I'd rank it.

Assuming they added to production mastery... mastery. (Gee, it's always funny to say mastery mastery...)
Or giving dex/stamina...

Spartaaaaa
07-06-2010, 01:30 PM
....Wut.
Also, failing at collecting water is proof that Devcat hates us.

I like how collecting eggs from a chicken has a lower failure rate than collecting water from a river.

Raj
07-06-2010, 07:57 PM
I'd never rank this.
Why?

Because this, collecting eggs, getting crops, it's all in Production Mastery. THE END.

When you don't use SKILLS when fighting, (melee) oh, let's call it the punch! We can rank up PUNCH.
No.

Skills are SKILLS. Not waste of time and AP.

Phunkie
07-07-2010, 02:11 AM
I'd never rank this.
Why?

Because this, collecting eggs, getting crops, it's all in Production Mastery. THE END.

When you don't use SKILLS when fighting, (melee) oh, let's call it the punch! We can rank up PUNCH.
No.

Skills are SKILLS. Not waste of time and AP.

Wow, you sounded kinda angry in this post.

But I agree that Collecting Water would be a wasteful skill, unless they use it to create something useful, like Holy Water.

The creators can get really creative when they want it. Look at Lure of Ballad.

It's like Taming, but with an instrument!

Hiccup
07-07-2010, 04:06 AM
I wanna collect water skill! Ya'll haters!

LEMME WASTE MAH AP! >:(

Be easier in the Elf beginner quests, no?

Ravendor
07-07-2010, 05:37 AM
Oh man, I know!

You could rank up Collecting Water to Rank 1 and create (through the use of Potion Making) PEE!!

You could then fabricate Pee Water Crystals through the Steam Ovens in Taillteann and shoot them out with a Water Cylinder!

Oh man, soaking someone with hot pee water doesn't sound too fun. :)

I finally got to Rank 1 water. :awesome:

http://www.cadred.org/Images/Articles/744eee6b0fe0df0e29a156e9f2f2fc94.jpg

starpaw7
07-07-2010, 01:57 PM
Only if it means +stats :evil:

Spartaaaaa
07-07-2010, 02:29 PM
Only if it means +stats :evil:

Well since the skill itself is so useful, it should subtract stats upon ranking.

Kueh
07-07-2010, 04:13 PM
Well since the skill itself is so useful, it should subtract stats upon ranking.

Minus 100 dex at rank F


I'd never rank this.
Why?

Because this, collecting eggs, getting crops, it's all in Production Mastery. THE END.


Oho, let's calm down a little okay? It's not like the OP suggested the skill specifically to make you angry. (unless they did, in which case, forget what I just said.)

Besides, getting water, eggs, or crops isn't production mastery. It's part of a hidden skill called gathering. So you're ruffling your feathers for nothing.

(Also, you can rank up punch, it's called combat mastery.)

I think having a collecting water skill is not a good idea. I think being able to rank gathering definitely be a good idea. And it can work like Metallurgy where high ranks collect multiple items at increased speeds. Ranking alchemy would be so much easier if you could collect things 10x faster.

Apple
07-07-2010, 04:15 PM
I'd rank it if it only took .25% of an AP point for each rank.

Kazuni
07-07-2010, 04:16 PM
Minus 100 dex at rank F



Oho, let's calm down a little okay? It's not like the OP suggested the skill specifically to make you angry. (unless they did, in which case, forget what I just said.)

Besides, getting water, eggs, or crops isn't production mastery. It's part of a hidden skill called gathering. So you're ruffling your feathers for nothing.

(Also, you can rank up punch, it's called combat mastery.)

I think having a collecting water skill is not a good idea. I think being able to rank gathering definitely be a good idea. And it can work like Metallurgy where high ranks collect multiple items at increased speeds. Ranking alchemy would be so much easier if you could collect things 10x faster.

That's what the collection speed potion's for.

Spartaaaaa
07-09-2010, 12:20 PM
I'd rank it if it only took .25% of an AP point for each rank.

Why? It's such a practical skill that it should use much more AP than that!

Kueh
07-09-2010, 12:27 PM
^I don't know if you were being sarcastic or serious.

Odinwolfe
07-09-2010, 12:52 PM
If you're going to make this a skill, here's what I recommend.

Blessing Skill

Ranks F-A
Making Holy Water enabled.
rF 30% success rate using water sunlight+mana herb.
rA 60%

Ranks 9-5
Making Holy Water enabled, Making More Holy Water per attempt enabled, Rank of enchant skill will increase Success Percentage.

Rank 1
Making Holy Water, Massive Holy water, multiple production per attempt enabled.

Total AP estimate 124
Stat bonuses
INT total, 55
Will total, 30
Dex + 12

Ingredients needed per attempt regardless of rank: 3 Mana herb 3 Sunlight herb 1 Water.
Rank 1 success rate 90% for regular HW
15% for massive
20% for multiple production(Min-max 2-5

Obviously, for user created holy water, Skill training would be hell.
So GL and now it's time for you to obsess and assess about the realism of lack thereof of this skills details XD

Spartaaaaa
07-09-2010, 03:59 PM
If you're going to make this a skill, here's what I recommend.

Blessing Skill

Ranks F-A
Making Holy Water enabled.
rF 30% success rate using water sunlight+mana herb.
rA 60%

Ranks 9-5
Making Holy Water enabled, Making More Holy Water per attempt enabled, Rank of enchant skill will increase Success Percentage.

Rank 1
Making Holy Water, Massive Holy water, multiple production per attempt enabled.

Total AP estimate 124
Stat bonuses
INT total, 55
Will total, 30
Dex + 12

Ingredients needed per attempt regardless of rank: 3 Mana herb 3 Sunlight herb 1 Water.
Rank 1 success rate 90% for regular HW
15% for massive
20% for multiple production(Min-max 2-5

Obviously, for user created holy water, Skill training would be hell.
So GL and now it's time for you to obsess and assess about the realism of lack thereof of this skills details XD

Also, each rank should increase success rate of water gathering, as that was the main purpose of the skill.

Odinwolfe
07-09-2010, 04:07 PM
Also, each rank should increase success rate of water gathering, as that was the main purpose of the skill.

Yes,
I got so into making a skill that will never be, that I forgot to add that XD.

Raj
07-09-2010, 07:40 PM
Wow, you sounded kinda angry in this post.

But I agree that Collecting Water would be a wasteful skill, unless they use it to create something useful, like Holy Water.

The creators can get really creative when they want it. Look at Lure of Ballad.

It's like Taming, but with an instrument!


Minus 100 dex at rank F



Oho, let's calm down a little okay? It's not like the OP suggested the skill specifically to make you angry. (unless they did, in which case, forget what I just said.)

Besides, getting water, eggs, or crops isn't production mastery. It's part of a hidden skill called gathering. So you're ruffling your feathers for nothing.

(Also, you can rank up punch, it's called combat mastery.)

I think having a collecting water skill is not a good idea. I think being able to rank gathering definitely be a good idea. And it can work like Metallurgy where high ranks collect multiple items at increased speeds. Ranking alchemy would be so much easier if you could collect things 10x faster.

~.~ Sorry, I was pissed about something else.
I'm still against the skill though...Probably because I only collected water for that quest..