This needs to be said.

[Hiccup]

Posts in Bean Rua, are spam. Think nothing less and nothing more to it. Spam is random, crap, useless, junk, anything and everything. Stop being so uptight and serious about it. Or you're ruining Nation for you're self. So no complaining if that happens.

Too many problems have arisen from people taking posts in there seriously. Yes I get it, but if they are rule abiding posts.... Get over it. Stop going to Bean Rua. Live a better life.

And now I've educated you.

[Science]

Master Brad, pointing this out again and again just brings up the topic again and again :[

[Hiccup]

Not really. Not everyone has it cemented in yet, and no big problems are in the spam section, so I see no problem posting this.:smoke:

[Moppy]

So are you saying there is no such thing as meaningful spam? The spam section may be the "whatever" area but I still expect maturity and good discussions from the section. Just because spam can be anything doesn't mean it can't be good.

[Hiccup]

No no no. Just that people are basing their views of the forum off it. I can give recent examples to examples weeks ago~

'Tis bad for the forum

[Science]

I blame Justin Boobie.

/norly it was just the wave of trolls.../

EDIT: I SEE HOW IT IS MOPPY</3

[Moppy]

Also guys, I want this to remain on topic. Any silliness or off-topicness and this will be sent to spam.

[Hiccup]

This isn't even concerning the trolling waves we got. Just the posts within the spam section are literally TAKEN TOO SERIOUSLY. Way to serious, why I have such a problem with Nation >_>

[Swordslayer]

If ur worried that ppl will think mabination is bad, trust me I don't think that will be the case XD Only forumers who really stay in mabination long enough find themselves exploring outside of general discussion, go to spam section. so no worries in my opinion~

[Hiccup]

You don't see what I see then~

[Science]

This isn't even concerning the trolling waves we got. Just the posts within the spam section are literally TAKEN TOO SERIOUSLY. Way to serious, why I have such a problem with Nation >_>

When you make a post in any section, you have to consider how others will read it, since it may be aimed at one audience, but a completely different audience is reading it too. Can cause misunderstanding, confusion, and maybe even damage D:

[Hiccup]

But if its in the spam zone it should either be taken serious when the time arises, with the occasional serious thread posted in there, or they are taken serious anyway with all the crap posted there.

I don't wonder why people leave, but they leave for stupid shiz.

[Science]

Well, you yourself said that some threads in Bean Dip are actually serious. Some newer people, or people who haven't taken time to get to know the members can't really tell if what you're saying is serious or not.

[Hiccup]

Well, you yourself said that some threads in Bean Dip are actually serious. Some newer people, or people who haven't taken time to get to know the members can't really tell if what you're saying is serious or not.

Serious threads are plainly laid out in the first sentence that this is to be taken seriously. Other then that, I treat all Bean Rua threads the same. Like a place to have some fun, joking around~

And most of the people saying they lost respect or or gonna quit for xxx reason are established members.

[MikeHo]

"Forum spam" is the creating of messages that are advertisements, abusive, or otherwise unwanted on Internet forums.

I feel if a topic will only lead to mockery or ridicule people have the right to be serious.

[Hiccup]

Spam. Serious? Doesn't make any logical sense. It's like saying, despite having no respect for most members here, I'm gonna post pronz everywhere to introduce them to my world. And cause they are not like me must become me. Not that I'm into pronz, but ya know.

Makes no sense right?

[Swordslayer]

It's about other people's viewpoint tho. YOU may think it's all for joke, hell that's how it should be. But other ppl don't. That's just life =S Especially when they drop in on something leading into an offensive topic

[Phunkie]

Here's how I feel about the spam zone.

Don't even post in it if you want people to be on-topic.

Don't expect people to take you seriously. Chances are, you will be let down. If it's something you want good feedback on, take it to Everything Else.

Occasionally, there will be good threads in the spam zone. Like, actual discussions and debates. And that's great! But people will still spam and be off-topic. It's Bean Rua. It's random. You can't really control random.

Just don't go accusing people of being spammers or idiots because they post nonsensical things in the spam zone.

Bean Rua is like a children's playground. We're all running around freely, talking and having fun. If it's not directly aimed at you, don't take it seriously.

Or take it to a mod or a PM.

With that said, I'm sorry if I caused any offense tonight to anyone.

[Hiccup]

Which is why this thread was made. To introduce to them the concept of lightning up, and stop taking the internet let alone spam posts seriously.
http://spam.abuse.net/others/simplespam.shtml

-----BEGIN SIMPLE ENGLISH MESSAGE-----

You do not get it. I will tell you. I hope you will get it.

You spammed.

We do not like spam. Spam is bad. Spam hurts the net. We like the net. So we do not like spam. In fact, we hate spam.

What is spam? Spam is the same thing lots and lots of times.

What is lots and lots? We will not tell you. Why? We think you might post one less, and then say it is not spam. But we will tell you this: count the things on your hands and feet. It is near that.

What is spam not? Spam is not a bad post. Spam is not a bad post lots and lots of times. Spam is not a post in the wrong place. Spam is not a bad post in the wrong place lots and lots of times.

Spam is the same thing lots and lots of times.

We do not care what is in a spam. We do not care if it is in the right place or the wrong place. If we cared, that would be bad. If we did not like a post, we could say it is bad, so it is spam. Or we could say it is in the wrong place, so it is spam. That would be worse than spam. So we say a thing is spam if it is the same thing lots and lots of times.

One more time: spam is the same thing lots and lots of times.

Why is spam bad? The more times it is there, the more room it takes on each site's disk, and the more time it takes to get it to all of the sites. It should take just a small bit of room on each site's disk, and take just a small bit of time to get there. So spam is a lot of waste.

Why else is spam bad? The more times it is there, the more times we have to see it. Some folks pay for their news by the note, or by the byte, or by how much time it takes them to get it. Some have to pay for each post in a group they read, and their site does not care if they read the post. So spam is not fair.

Why else is spam bad? Spam makes folks mad. They post notes and say that they are mad. Lots and lots of notes. We call these notes "flames." So spam makes lots and lots of flames.

Why is a small spam bad? Some folks think that if a small thing is not bad, then the same thing big is not bad too. So if a small spam is not yelled at, then there will be lots and lots of big spams.

What did you do? You sent the same thing lots and lots of times. So you spammed. Spam is bad.

We do not care what you said. We do not care if it was in the right place. You sent the same thing lots and lots of times. That is spam. That is bad.

Some folks like to get rid of spam when they see it. We think that is good. We like them. We think they are good.

When they get rid of spam, they get rid of all of it. They do not try to think if some of the posts are in the wrong place and just get rid of those ones. That would be bad. As bad as to say that a post is spam if they did not like it. No, they get rid of all of them. That is the right way to get rid of spam.

Not all folks think we should do this. There are a few, like Dave Hayes, who think spam should be left there, that we should all be free to spam and spam and spam. But there are lots and lots more who think spam should be got rid of.

Why are we mad at you? You spammed. But there is more: when we said we were mad, you said you did not spam. And you said few of us were mad. And you said your spam was not bad because it was in the right place. And you said that we should not get rid of it. Or that we should not get rid of the ones in the right place.

You said you will do it no more. We do not know if we think that is true. Why? You said things that we think are bad. You did things that we think are bad. So we do not trust you. We think you might do it the next time you think of a thing you want lots and lots of folks to hear.

How can you make us think you will do it no more, and that you are good folks?

1. Say that what you did was spam.
2. Say that what you did was bad.
3. Say that you feel bad since you did this bad thing.
4. *Then* say that you will do it no more.

Then we might trust you. Then we might not be mad at you.

That is not too hard for you to get, is it?

-----END SIMPLE ENGLISH MESSAGE-----
tl;dr? GTFO! And that's serious.

[Swordslayer]

well let's hope they all read it then XD What u guys should do is have a pop up warning for all first timers in the spam zone.

[Phunkie]

We all just need to learn how to forgive each other and loosen up.

:)

[Papaya Pok Pok]

We all just need to learn how to forgive each other and loosen up.

:)

It's easier said than done

[Phunkie]

It's easier said than done

Practice makes perfect.

[MikeHo]

Which is why this thread was made. To introduce to them the concept of lightning up, and stop taking the internet let alone spam posts seriously.
Spam is Bad (http://spam.abuse.net/others/simplespam.shtml)

tl;dr? GTFO! And that's serious.

Well i wanted to PM this but your PM is disabled. (feel this may cause more problems)

First of all it depends on the definition of what Bean Rue is:
-People have called it a Spam Section.
-Others a chitchat/gossip section.

Now if we consider it a spam section do you consider everything in there spam?
-if so then nothing in there should be taken seriously
-but one problem by your definition it is not spam.

Because the Bean Rue has the "All the rules still apply here except for "do not spam"."
-it can be seen as just a random forum.
-Can get confusing.

Because its not spam as that one post said then it would be considered a (bad/good) normal post.

Your post says spam should not be taken seriously but if it's a normal post? then can it be taken seriously...?

Thus such topics that would only lead to problems of any kind should be taken seriously.



Stop being so serious dood. Seriously..... this is BEAN RUA! Bean Rua is SPAM SECTION. SPAM!

DID I MENTION SPAM SECTION. NOT SERIOUS. Never is really. T_____________________________T
~sigh

My quote about "Forum spam" was only stated because (the other forum was closed and i couldn't not post it there) you said it was a spam section and i was merely trying to show what spam is. Though i did fail to say that the message was to be posted multiple times. That topic was never considered spam to me i just felt that it was unnecessary and would only lead to problems.

________________________________________________

I really don't want to start another argument. This is only my opinion.

It just seems there is a lot of contradictions/misconceptions to what the Bean Rue is and what Spam is. Thus until this is made 100% clear to everyone such topics will keep showing up.


We all just need to learn how to forgive each other and loosen up.

:)

I agree that we should all just forgive. it would make all these arguments and problems go away.
But weather or not the person chooses to take it serious or not is up to the person.

[Hiccup]

Ahh so srs. xP I'll reply to this when I get sleep. and my PM's disabled for a reason :P

[MikeHo]

Ahh so srs. xP I'll reply to this when I get sleep. and my PM's disabled for a reason :P

I'm not trying to be super serious about this. I'm just saying there is a wording problems that leads to confusion. I don't want to start a fight. :T_T: (whhaaaaa random: Just had a Déjà vu moment :what: )

Basically in the end its the persons right to take anything seriously or not. (ya im sleepy too)

[Hiccup]

No fight. I don't take internet seriously, or too seriously for it to piss me off. :P

[Osayidan]

If a definition of Bean Rua is needed that badly I'll post one but I thought it was pretty obvious that Bean Rua is a version of Everything Else where you're allowed to screw around.

[Nakishu]

One thing to say. Chill out Bieber-boy.

[Hitaki]

The Internet is Serious Business.

Quote for thought.

[Taycat]

Some people are too stupid to realize what section they are in.

I for one, know I'm in that section so I spam there.

And then somebody gets mad?

That is true fail.

[Hiccup]

First of all it depends on the definition of what Bean Rua is:
-People have called it a Spam Section.
-Others a chitchat/gossip section.

Bean Rua is declared the spam section. I haven't seen the latter.

Now if we consider it a spam section do you consider everything in there spam?
-if so then nothing in there should be taken seriously
-but one problem by your definition it is not spam.

Some people dunno where to post threads that are in fact quite serious so they post it in the spam zone. But even after a discussion or not, it just turns into random joking around.

Because the Bean Rua has the "All the rules still apply here except for "do not spam"."
-it can be seen as just a random forum.
-Can get confusing.

Well generally in spam sections it is very off topic, poking fun at anything/one.


Your post says spam should not be taken seriously but if it's a normal post? then can it be taken seriously...?
Yes for normal posts that pertain to what I explained above.

Thus such topics that would only lead to problems of any kind should be taken seriously.

I agree that we should all just forgive. it would make all these arguments and problems go away.
But weather or not the person chooses to take it serious or not is up to the person.

Replied in black~

[Kueh]

This are my thoughts about spam sections.

You ever watch Men in Black II? The forum is that locker full of little people.

The spam section is the large adult entertainment section in the back.

It's in the back because no one wants to admit to having it because it's a dirty foul place,

but everyone goes there from time to time to do some dirtying of their own.

Not saying that the Bean Rua section is dirty, just that it's a place reserved for behavior that isn't normally allowed.