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Zeo
04-18-2012, 12:46 PM
Like really... it always happens to me everytime I try to start a convo with one of the people on my friend list..




Me: Hello.
Them: ?
Me: I just am saying hi?
Them: Oh.



Some people was rude about it too. I asked why they assume I need something, and they'd go all... "Because hi isn't interesting enough to start a convo" and etc.

So MN users... have this ever happened to you before, and how did you feel about it?

Kyubey
04-18-2012, 12:51 PM
Because saying hi just for saying hi is awkward

Slayerj
04-18-2012, 12:56 PM
I've had it happen a few times. I generaly either go hi followed by something like *hugs* or something. Othertmes I just go *poke* or *glomp* or YOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO~ XD

Noxctis
04-18-2012, 12:59 PM
Well maybe they're busy doing something? And can only type ""?"And it is pretty weird just to say hi only.. I mean Hey, whatsup, actually seems better to say.

Mitsuru
04-18-2012, 12:59 PM
I talk to the friends I've made in-game with outside clients

Everyone else on my list usually messages me to ask for something (crafting, advice, run a dungeon). If they say "hi" I usually ignore them unless they follow up with what they want

Iyasenu
04-18-2012, 01:00 PM
I don't really 'just say hi' unless I'm first logging on, or if whoever I'm talking is first logging on.

If I do something like this, I usually tack on some kind of question like "Hey, whatcha up to?" or something.

Perfectio
04-18-2012, 01:04 PM
Because saying hi just for saying hi is awkward

>saying hi
>to someone on your *friend* list
>is awkward
>trying to strike up conversation
>is awkward

wow

Mitsuru
04-18-2012, 01:19 PM
>saying hi
>to someone on your *friend* list
>is awkward
>trying to strike up conversation
>is awkward

wow

People also use their friendlist to keep in touch with crafters, enchanters, dungeon mates and guildmates who aren't actually friends or people you talk to on a personal basis

I may have a consistent dungeon partner, or a person who I know to consistently ask for help, so they are added for the convenience of quick communication

"Friend" list does not mean "friends" only.

Cynic
04-18-2012, 01:20 PM
I react the same way when someone I'm not good friends with says hello to me. Usually they have a reason for starting up the conversation which is why I reply with a "?".

Sedia
04-18-2012, 01:25 PM
I do the same thing. Usually it's when I come back from afk-ing and there's a person sitting next to me. Either that, or I'm just standing somewhere doing nothing. Sometimes I usally reply with "o-o". Nobody really talks to me except my friends if they're on or my guildies. I find it strange for a random person to come up and say "Hi" when nobody ever talks to me in general.

Aveutor
04-18-2012, 01:34 PM
Hi: used as a friendly greeting or to attract attention. Definition according to Apple's dictionary. Friendly doesn't necessarily mean friend. I reply the hi's with hello, or hey.

Perfectio
04-18-2012, 01:58 PM
People also use their friendlist to keep in touch with crafters, enchanters, dungeon mates and guildmates who aren't actually friends or people you talk to on a personal basis

I may have a consistent dungeon partner, or a person who I know to consistently ask for help, so they are added for the convenience of quick communication

"Friend" list does not mean "friends" only.

The point is, if you add someone to a list designed to facilitate communication, maybe don't be so put off by the idea of them...communicating with you.

Geez people these days are almost militantly anti-social.

Jovo
04-18-2012, 02:01 PM
The point is, if you add someone to a list designed to facilitate communication, maybe don't be so put off by the idea of them...communicating with you.

Geez people these days are almost militantly anti-social.

While it may seem antisocial, I have to say 99% of my friendlist is business only. If I am messaged, it is most likely because they want something from me. If they are my friend, I'd contact them on other social platforms (MSN, Skype, etc.)

It also doesn't help that I get many many adds every day in order to use my life skill set. It's just something that some players just expect after being bothered for certain things for a long time.

Mitsuru
04-18-2012, 02:02 PM
The point is, if you add someone to a list designed to facilitate communication, maybe don't be so put off by the idea of them...communicating with you.

Geez people these days are almost militantly anti-social.

Some people not wanting to be bothered isn't the same as antisocial (and antisocial isn't an avoidance of being social)

I don't think people are put off with communicating when they respond with "?", but personally if someone approaches me, if all they say is "hello," there's zero incentive to reply. IRL if you walk up to someone and say nothing else but "hi," it is awkward. At the very least, people follow up with what they want--

ie they want to know, "how are you," or ask you something, etc.

Tropa
04-18-2012, 02:04 PM
hi, can you help me buy [Item's name]

Syrion
04-18-2012, 02:09 PM
hi

















































































awkward yet?

starpaw7
04-18-2012, 02:12 PM
I respond with an "Ello" or anything really; it's not hard or awkward :what:


Then I may decide to respond a bit after, or wait for them to see what took their interest in me.

Just saying "Hi" for the sake of a greeting is a rather nice thing to hear too.

Kendoza
04-18-2012, 02:23 PM
Most of the time when someone random comes up to you and says just hi, it is usually followed up by some sort of question or asking for (insert name here)

Now if its someone you know, you hope they'll be friendly and say hi or hey or hello or sup or something :<

Claudia
04-18-2012, 02:27 PM
99% of my in-game conversations;

Them: hi
Me: Hi!
Them: can i have/do u want 2 buy/wats up?

Me (if third option): Not much, yourself?
Them: not much do u want...

Me (if first/second option): I haven't got anything to give, sorry/I'm not interested, sorry.


Final result: ok

/conversation

I mean, that's pretty awkward.

Tropa
04-18-2012, 02:30 PM
And Zeo, I do try to keep convos, but most of the time theres not much to talk about. :x

Ashwood
04-18-2012, 03:03 PM
Because saying hi just for saying hi is awkward

This
And I do it mostly to be a jerk to my friends.
"Kindness? In this troll infested internet? They must want something from me! They're after me lucky charms!"

Also because we're all really antisocial on the surface and only make conversation when its convenient.
Like trapped in a laggy dungeon, or while rafting or something where we're forced to interact.

Kyubey
04-18-2012, 03:06 PM
random "hi"s usually end this way

>person A : hi
>person B : hello
>person B : /waits
...
>person B : /closes window

Tropa
04-18-2012, 03:07 PM
random "hi"s usually end this way

>person A : hi
>person B : hello
>person B : /waits
...
>person B : /closes window

Always.

Oizen
04-18-2012, 03:08 PM
people dont say hi to me unless they want something.


...

4ever alone...

Ashwood
04-18-2012, 03:11 PM
random "hi"s usually end this way

>person A : hi
>person B : hello
>person B : /waits
...
>person B : /closes window

A simple "Hi" isnt enough. Gotta follow it up with "whats up?" or some equivalent

Murasaki
04-18-2012, 03:23 PM
It has to do with the fact that when some people say hi to certain other people, they do usually ask for something. Like gold. Or stuff.

frozenwilderness
04-18-2012, 03:40 PM
i usually always respond with another hi if its a random person on friendslist

and if they ask for money i delete them, or pretend to afk for a long time, then delete them

Paradise
04-18-2012, 03:40 PM
So MN users... have this ever happened to you before, and how did you feel about it?

when something like this happens to me
i press F>right click on name>delete

i try to keep just friends/aquitances on my FL so i can add new ppl without searching for ppl to delete for more FL space

ne ways, i can say its been years that something like that happened


random "hi"s usually end this way

>person A : hi
>person B : hello
>person B : /waits
...
>person B : /closes window

when im the A person, its cause i have something to say/ask, or just cause it's been a while since last time we chat

if im person B, i ask how is it going in-game and for real, and that always starts a convo
i take long to answer on mabi ne ways, but my friends on FL are used to that

Cynic
04-18-2012, 03:44 PM
Just so you guys know, antisocial is a term closely related to psychopathy and generally really destructive behavior.

I'm pretty sure you guys mean "not social" but ye~ah, be careful with using certain terms improperly.

Paradise
04-18-2012, 04:06 PM
Just so you guys know, antisocial is a term closely related to psychopathy and generally really destructive behavior.

I'm pretty sure you guys mean "not social" but ye~ah, be careful with using certain terms improperly.

like i saw some ppl using terms like autism and asperger in some threads.... do they really know what does those terms imply?

any ways, if im at a dungeon i jst simply don't answer till im done, just tell your friends that you didn't asnwer cause that, and they will get used to it, if they don't have an answer, they will know that you are bussy -oh! yea she doesn't answer when she is at a dungeon/sm, i'll try again later-

frozenwilderness
04-18-2012, 04:11 PM
hi

Tropa
04-18-2012, 04:23 PM
people dont say hi to me unless they want something.


...

4ever alone...

hi



I want your friendship.

Kingofrunes
04-18-2012, 05:02 PM
I never start things with hi.

I don't beat around the bush. I get right to the point and fast.

When I hit someone up I either do something like:

1) "Are you busy?"

2) *poke*/*glomps* (If it's something that I don't deem to be too important and just want to chat)

3) Something related to an accomplishment or something I got.

Hujisaki
04-18-2012, 05:19 PM
People have the weirdest reactions lol
sometimes it is ackward when someone says ''hi'' to you and dont say anything else after you reply, but saying hi is also a way to start a conversation and get to know people. I personally wouldnt ignore or reject people saying ''Hi'' to me, doesnt matter if its a friend or a stranger, cause ignoring them would be too unfriendly of me and it could be someone that just trying to make friends.

Then again of course if they start begging for stuff or dont say anything after I reply to them it will get ackward though and in that case I will just keep doing what I was doing ^^.

Idris
04-18-2012, 05:36 PM
In dunby, if someone walks up and says hi, it's not usually because they actually want to carry on a conversation with you. More than 90% of the time, it's to ask for help of some kind (sell them something nice, take them somewhere so they can make a mule char for g16 knuckles, buy something they have, give them money for nothing, do something random but time consuming for them, etc...)

Murasaki
04-18-2012, 05:38 PM
hi


hi



I want your friendship.

Let's try not to get Bean Rua-ish, now.

Milk
04-18-2012, 05:44 PM
I dont get what you mean.

? is an appropriate response especially if you dont talk to the person regularly.

I say it sometimes as a quick way of typing whats up?

Azareel
04-18-2012, 09:19 PM
Probably because just saying "Hi" is typically something people do when they (randomly) encounter each other face-to-face. It's not that often for people to call up their friends just to say "Hi"; there's usually a reason they call.

Behavior like this transfers to any game in an analogous manner. Think of PMing like calling, or sending a text, and there you go.

Odinwolfe
04-18-2012, 09:53 PM
>saying hi
>to someone on your *friend* list
>is awkward
>trying to strike up conversation
>is awkward

wow

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Only way express myself

Neikie
04-18-2012, 10:16 PM
I am not trying to be rude or anything but I normally greet one back and ask if they needed anything, mostly because my friendslist is mostly comprised of players I have helped whom are far lower level then myself, and what I normally tend to do these days is go around helping others anyway.

Crazed420
04-19-2012, 02:37 AM
I'm usually the one going "?" as I don't randomly go up to people and say hi. Or if I don't feel like responding period i fake AFK or something. If they outright ask a comprehensive question I'll answer. If someone just outright babbles some nonsense to me I'm either quite sharp in return or ignore them depending on my mood. I've been bothered with some of the most stupid and at times derogatory questions that I'm just avoidant now. I NEVER start a conversation with another player unless I know them and even then I likely wont unless I have something of importance/interest to say. Maybe I'm a dick but I really couldn't care less anymore.

LOVELESS
04-19-2012, 03:46 AM
Is always the case with me that I get a random pm out of nowhere either saying some nonsense or asking me a favor then QQing if I don't respond. Unless is an important message or request or I ignore all my messages making all my friends get pissed with me for never responding pm. Which makes me go say to them, " If you already know I rarely ever respond to pm, then why you continue to bug me :o? I get about 15-20 messages a day I don't have all the time to respond to all of them, especially if is some nonsense or unreasonable favor."

aaah why can't people understand to stop messaging me nonsense:fail3:

There's also the case I recieve a pm...in the middle of a mission....and suddenly I can't charge skills because a stupid message popped out :shoe:

frozenwilderness
04-19-2012, 05:54 AM
Let's try not to get Bean Rua-ish, now.

there's actually a point to me posting just that

i dont think there are people who just say "hi" to OP just to strike up a random conversation, so he probably doesn't know how it feels when someone else just says "hi" out of the blue one day

Zeo
04-19-2012, 12:43 PM
And Zeo, I do try to keep convos, but most of the time theres not much to talk about. :x

I understand if you don't have much going on but at least you didn't assume if I needed anything or such. If I did really need anything, I would just say it right away after saying "hi", "hey", "hello", or such.


People have the weirdest reactions lol
sometimes it is ackward when someone says ''hi'' to you and dont say anything else after you reply, but saying hi is also a way to start a conversation and get to know people. I personally wouldnt ignore or reject people saying ''Hi'' to me, doesnt matter if its a friend or a stranger, cause ignoring them would be too unfriendly of me and it could be someone that just trying to make friends.

Haha, I agree with you about people have weird reactions to "Hi". If the person reply back after I said hello or something. I'll continue the convo with "How are you?" and such...


I'm usually the one going "?" as I don't randomly go up to people and say hi. Or if I don't feel like responding period i fake AFK or something. If they outright ask a comprehensive question I'll answer. If someone just outright babbles some nonsense to me I'm either quite sharp in return or ignore them depending on my mood. I've been bothered with some of the most stupid and at times derogatory questions that I'm just avoidant now. I NEVER start a conversation with another player unless I know them and even then I likely wont unless I have something of importance/interest to say. Maybe I'm a dick but I really couldn't care less anymore.

I don't blame you, although... maybe the people are trying to be friendly with you? It's quite the same concept as real life. If I had some kid or stranger in grocery going, waving at me or such. I'll respond back in a friendly way with a smile as well. Altho... if I don't want to be bothered, I just ask them to not bother me.

Again... like the second quote said... some people do indeed have weird reactions... lol.

Chaos'
04-19-2012, 08:27 PM
I never start things with hi.

I don't beat around the bush. I get right to the point and fast.

When I hit someone up I either do something like:

1) "Are you busy?"

2) *poke*/*glomps* (If it's something that I don't deem to be too important and just want to chat)

3) Something related to an accomplishment or something I got.

This is exactly wat i do. no beating around, just state ur pt and move on .-.

and well most convo usually starts like this for me :

person : hi
me : hey
me : [ thinks about the potential things i can gain from them ex. selling something, see if they noe someone that will buy something. some random question that i might noe the answer to already but simply ask to keep convo continuing or things will most definitely get awkward.]
person : refuse request/answers but not helpful. now they'll be more incline to ask for help

Elleanior
04-19-2012, 08:40 PM
Why do people always assume you need something everytime you said "Hi"?
Maybe because when people start a conversation, they usually want something.
They want attention or conversation (or something tangible).