The Royal Alchemist: Guide

[Phunkie]

Okay, so I shall attempt my first guide ever in the history of Mabinogi.



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Mabinogi brings an enormous amount of content with Generation 11. The city of Tara expands into the kingdom's castle, the Rath Royal Castle, and with it arrive many Shadow Missions and also many new features.

One of these is the widely known features is the option to become a Royal Alchemist.


"What the heck is a Royal Alchemist?"

Just like a Seal Breaker, a Royal Alchemist is a special title that can be held by someone. However, it isn't just a title; it is also very much like a job. Therefore, the position isn't permanent and can be lost if you do not meet a set of requirements each week.

There can only be 100 Royal Alchemists per server at one time. To become one, you must apply for the position.


"Sounds interesting! How do I apply?"

To become a Royal Alchemist, you must obtain a minimum rank of at least Rank B Alchemy Mastery. If you haven't yet, here's (http://mabination.com/mabinogi/guides/169-alchemy-mastery-training-suggestion.html) a great guide on how to train the skill.

After meeting this single requirement, you can apply for the position by talking to Sinead, located in the Reception Room on the 2nd floor of the Rath Royal Castle.


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"What's the process of selection like?"

Royal Alchemists are chosen every Saturday at exactly 12:00 am PST. The system decides the top 100 applicants (both current and new) who will become or remain the Royal Alchemists for that week.

The process of selection is based off your Alchemy skill ranks and your Journal achievements (explained below (http://mabination.com/mabinogi/guides/6169-royal-alchemist-guide.html#post105956)). The higher skill ranks and more achievements you have, the more favorable you are to being selected for a Royal Alchemist position.

If you are selected, you will be notified by mail. If it's your first time, you must then go back and talk to Sinead, the NPC you applied with, to receive your position, along with some prizes.


"Wait, did you say prizes??"

The first time you become a Royal Alchemist, you will receive a title and enchanted equipment that can only be worn by you (or another Royal Alchemist).


[the Royal Alchemist]

Crystal Making Success +1%
Synthesis Success +1%
Fragmentation Success +1%
Water-Type Alchemy +15 Dmg
Fire-Type Alchemy +5 Dmg


Royal Alchemist's Suit
Prefix: Soggy (Water-Type Alchemy +27 Dmg)
Suffix: Academic (Crystal Making Success +3%, Synthesis Success +3%)

Royal Alchemist's Boots
Prefix: Baking (Fire-Type Alchemy +5 Dmg)
Suffix: Flooded (Water-Type Alchemy +12 Dmg)

The second (or following) times that you get selected to become a Royal Alchemist, you will not be rewarded these equipment. So if you lose them, you will have to purchase them yourself. They're quite expensive too: 200k gold for the suit, 100k gold for the shoes-- so take care of them.

The uniform may not be mailed, traded, or placed in pet inventories, but it can be stored in the bank (or destroyed if you wish). Additionally, the uniform cannot be dyed and the enchants on it cannot be burned off.


"What other advantages are there to being a Royal Alchemist?

(1) While equipped with a Cylinder, you will have a special pose while standing.


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(Note: Elves have the same stance poses as Humans.)


(2) A Royal Alchemist will also be able to discover Cylinder upgrades and have his or her name imprinted on the upgrade itself, similar to breaking a Seal Stone. (Not as applicable anymore, as most upgrades have already been discovered.)

For example, I could discover an upgrade for a Wind Cylinder. The upgrade would therefore be named, Phunkie's Freezing Enhancement 1, and it would add +1 second of freezing time to the Frozen Blast skill (while equipped with a Wind Cylinder, that is).

Although only Royal Alchemists can discover upgrades, discovering them is quite random. Someone could be using Barrier Spikes with an Earth Cylinder and discover an upgrade for the Water Cylinder. Mabinogi works in funny ways like that.

The name of the upgrade is permanent and goes to the person who discovers it.


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(3) And most importantly, you get to help others with their solo mainstream quests-- for example, like the G10 and G11 final missions. Same experience and gold rewards! All just for being a good Samaritan.



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"You said the position isn't permanent though. How do I remain a Royal Alchemist?"

I mentioned that each week, a Royal Alchemist must meet a set of requirements in order to keep the position. These requirements as known as Activity Points.

There are many ways for obtaining Activity Points. Here's a couple of ways.


+1 pt for every hour that you are logged in.

Limited to 24 points per day.

+1 pt for every Shadow Mission (or Cooking Dungeon) completion.

Limited to 10 points per day this way, with no difficulty restriction.

+5 pts for every mainstream Shadow Mission (from G9~G12) that you help complete.

Limited to 10 points per day this way, with no difficulty restriction.
After attaining the maximum 10 points, every mainstream Shadow Mission then counts for a regular mission (+1 pt).

+6~9 pts for every Royal Alchemist mission completion. (These are given to you by Sinead.)

Limited to one mission per day.


Be careful though. You can also lose Activity Points!


After 48 hours without login, you will lose 1 point for every 2 hours.

Limited to 12 pts lost per day.


You must net a minimum of 60 Activity Points before the next Saturday or you will lose the Royal Alchemist position.

Finally, even if you do obtain the 60 minimum points, you can still lose the position if you no longer fall in the Top 100 applicants.


"Competition, much?"

Yes, becoming a Royal Alchemist is definitely much like a competition. However, I think it's a great addition to Mabinogi.

It definitely encourages people to be friendly and help others in their missions and quests. G11's final mission, for example. Who wouldn't love to have someone next to you fighting those four dragon snakes with ya?

Also, 100 people per server get chosen for this position, unlike just one Seal Breaker. And the selection switches every week, so you'll always be seeing different Royal Alchemist instead of the same old ones.

You even get a chance to discover an upgrade yourself and have it be named after you!

It's a fun, new feature and I definitely recommend you try it when it comes out.



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Credit to:
Royal Alchemist - Mabinogi World Wiki (http://wiki.mabinogiworld.com/index.php?title=Royal_Alchemist)
[G11S2] Royal Alchemist (http://mabidata.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=211)

[Phunkie]

Alright, so I'm taking this post as an opportunity to expand on a few things I mentioned above.


"Can you elaborate on the mainstream Shadow Missions bit?"

Sure!

I stated already that Royal Alchemists can help other players with their mainstream Shadow Missions from G9 through G12, even if their mission is solo-- that is, for 1 person. In return, the player has an easier time finishing the hard mission and the Royal Alchemist gets Activity Points for their job.

And, of course, both of you receive the experience and gold rewards for the mission.

Just stand at the Stonehenge of the corresponding Shadow Mission with your Royal Alchemist partner and the game will let you both enter, if the mission allows for Royal Alchemist support.

(Note: Unfortunately, Royal Alchemists cannot help each other on mainstream missions.)


"That's pretty good! I want to bring a Royal Alchemist on all my missions!"

Haha, who wouldn't? Unfortunately, you can't.

Some mainstream Shadow Missions will require you to complete them alone. G11's mainstream has a few of those. The wiki has organized a nice table that tells you which Shadow Missions are Royal-Alchemist-friendly and which are not. I've added a few colors to it below.


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"What about journal achievements? What are those?"

The Journal is a new feature introduced with G11. In it, you can keep track of your in-game achievements (so you can brag about them later, duh!). You can see someone else's achievements too!

Achievements can be earned for a wide variety of tasks. Some are simple, some are near impossible, some are actually impossible. For example, Giants and Elves cannot clear G1 through G3, missing out on 300 Journal points. Also, only one player per server will be able to hold a certain Seal Breaker title, making this achievement off-limits for the rest.


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Despite all this, journal achievements are a very important part of the Royal Alchemist selection. Alchemy skill ranks too!. So be sure to get as many Journal points as you can, as well as ranking up those Alchemy skills, if you want to be selected for the position!

For a list of all the current achievements, visit the wiki page (http://wiki.mabinogiworld.com/index.php?title=Journal) on it.

(Note: Mabi NA is missing some achievements from that list. These will come G12.)


Credit to:
Journal - Mabinogi World Wiki (http://wiki.mabinogiworld.com/index.php?title=Journal)
[G11S1] Achievement Journal (http://mabidata.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=213)
Journals - Show your achievements! (http://mabi.nexon.net/News/View.aspx?boardNo=101&contentNo=008RW&pageIndex=2)

[Apple]

Omg
sexy
outfits
are sexyyy...
Now i will actually rank Alchemy.
o_o just for that outfit. >;C mm.. wish i knew about this sooner. i have no alchemy skill over rC xD fail~

[Hiccup]

So many people gonna go for this Dx

[Apple]

So many people gonna go for this Dx

Well at least there's no cheating to get this.
You actually have to play the game. :0 if i saw a dunbi statue regular with royal alchemist I would flip out.

[Zid]

I think you summed it up nicely. Though I thought Royal Alchemist were Season 2?

Still need information on what those special Shadow Missions are, and exactly what you have to do in order to help somebody on their C3 solo quests.

[Sinned]

Wait, will an upgrade ever be rewritten (example- Bacon's _____ upgrade, would it ever change to another person's name if Bacon were to lose royal alchemist or something?)

Sounds a bit confusing but hard to explain >_>

[Shironi]

If I get Royal Alchemist (yeah, right), do I keep the suit even if the title is taken away next week? Or is it destroyed?

[Zid]

If I get Royal Alchemist (yeah, right), do I keep the suit even if the title is taken away next week? Or is it destroyed?

I think you can't wear it at all unless you're a Royal Alchemist. It'll stay there though, can only be banked/destroyed as an option.

[Phunkie]

I think you summed it up nicely. Though I thought Royal Alchemist were Season 2?

Still need information on what those special Shadow Missions are, and exactly what you have to do in order to help somebody on their C3 solo quests.

Seeing as how we got all of G10 in one-go, it's safe to assume that this will also happen for G11.

Also, in their latest update summary (posted on the site), they mentioned that they were releasing a new life skill. In other words, Carpentry, which was a G11S2 skill for Korea. So yes, we're probably getting G11 all at once too.

Thanks for the reminder too! I have quite a few things to elaborate on.

But I'll answer your question. In order to help someone on a solo C3 mainstream quest, you just gotta party up with them. Simple as it sounds. As long as you're a Royal Alchemist, the game shall let you enter any solo mainstream mission with a partner. :)


Wait, will an upgrade ever be rewritten (example- Bacon's _____ upgrade, would it ever change to another person's name if Bacon were to lose royal alchemist or something?)

Sounds a bit confusing but hard to explain >_>

Not at all confusing.

I am pretty sure that whoever discovers a Cylinder upgrade first is what name goes on the upgrade permanently. It doesn't matter if that person lost the position of Royal Alchemist or not. It's like a tribute to that person. :)

Discovering these upgrades are very random, as I said. It's hilarious. haha


If I get Royal Alchemist (yeah, right), do I keep the suit even if the title is taken away next week? Or is it destroyed?

Yes, the suit (and the boots) remain with you for as long as you keep it.

You just can't wear it if you do not hold the position of Royal Alchemist. You can keep it in the bank though.

[Shironi]

Thanks :P
I just want to wear that suit ._.

[Kazuni]

It's a pretty outfit.

Though not worth constantly working on sms and alchemy for.

/lazy.

I can imagine something like "Yomama's Cylinder Upgrade 1" or something.

[Phunkie]

I can imagine something like "Yomama's Cylinder Upgrade 1" or something.

YES! I would love to see that!

lmaoo

And I agree. To remain a Royal Alchemist, it requires dedication. It's something you can easily lose, but then again, it's not so hard to gain back once lost.

[Zyrus]

I hope they implement the new storage bags in this update. I cant hold another item on my character like that. Need bags now please!

[Groffy]

So it's sort of like a Dan ranking (but not really) for alchemists.

[Taliya]

Oh hey! I didn't notice this guide! You did an awesome job explaining it. If you want details on the journal there is a list on the wiki (http://wiki.mabinogiworld.com/index.php?title=Journal)

[Phunkie]

Oh hey! I didn't notice this guide! You did an awesome job explaining it. If you want details on the journal there is a list on the wiki (http://wiki.mabinogiworld.com/index.php?title=Journal)

Thanks a lot! And will do when I get to it. :)


So it's sort of like a Dan ranking (but not really) for alchemists.

You could definitely describe it that way. However, there's more perks to being a Royal Alchemist than having a Dan.

[Splash]

Hey, quick question. When you say Royal Alchemists can help with solo quests, is it just limited to mainstream finals or can they help in regular solo mainstream Shadow Missions?

[Username]

Thanks for the Guide :o I want to attempt to become one. Sadly i might not get it on my first few tries, due to my lower alchemy ranks, none being at 1. However that will soon change when i can derank stuff and rebirth more :D

[Phunkie]

Hey, quick question. When you say Royal Alchemists can help with solo quests, is it just limited to mainstream finals or can they help in regular solo mainstream Shadow Missions?

Royal Alchemists can definitely help with solo mainstream Shadow Missions as well, not just finals.

Check out the wiki for information like this.

Scroll down to where it says, Shadow Mission Assistance.

This will point out which missions you can bring a Royal Alchemist and which you cannot.

You can't bring one in every solo mission btw. Some you must complete by yourself.


Thanks for the Guide :o I want to attempt to become one. Sadly i might not get it on my first few tries, due to my lower alchemy ranks, none being at 1. However that will soon change when i can derank stuff and rebirth more :D

Best of luck! I definitely want to become one as well and help others, but it might get a little competitive with all those other high-ranked Alchemists on the servers.

Let's try our best!

[Deitylight]

Damnit this is the one time nexon fails me for releasing g11 to early: my alchemy skills are not at the ranks i want them to be so i will either not get in at all or if i'm lucky get in with some of my high ranked alchemy skills, wish me luck.

[Phunkie]

Damnit this is the one time nexon fails me for releasing g11 to early: my alchemy skills are not at the ranks i want them to be so i will either not get in at all or if i'm lucky get in with some of my high ranked alchemy skills, wish me luck.

One thing I still have to add to this guide is the Journal Achievements feature that also comes out with G11.

We don't know what matters most, be it alchemy ranks or achievements, but both do indeed matter when it comes to being selected as Royal Alchemist. :)

So try to get all the achievement points you can!

I have to edit that ASAP into this guide. I just haven't been able to find the time to do it.

Here's an excellent article on the wiki on journal achievements. It tells you all of them, so you can trace which ones you got and which ones you still need to do. Remember, the more achievements, the better.

Journal - Mabinogi World Wiki (http://wiki.mabinogiworld.com/index.php?title=Journal)

The list may not be complete by the way.

[Second]

Do the sunglasses come with the suit?

[Phunkie]

Do the sunglasses come with the suit?

Haha, no. Those are the GMs trying to look cool. :P

(Did you also notice one of their names was darkknightg3, lol?)

There are just two pieces to the Royal Alchemist outfit.

[Schezo]

I never thought becoming one of these would be so simple...yet tough because there's over 9000 potential State- erm Royal Alchemists. (Too much FMA Kei!)

[Phunkie]

Haha, but there's a chance at it every week. :) Which makes it tons better too!

You should definitely try.

[Deitylight]

One thing I still have to add to this guide is the Journal Achievements feature that also comes out with G11.

We don't know what matters most, be it alchemy ranks or achievements, but both do indeed matter when it comes to being selected as Royal Alchemist. :)

So try to get all the achievement points you can!

I have to edit that ASAP into this guide. I just haven't been able to find the time to do it.

Here's an excellent article on the wiki on journal achievements. It tells you all of them, so you can trace which ones you got and which ones you still need to do. Remember, the more achievements, the better.

Journal - Mabinogi World Wiki (http://wiki.mabinogiworld.com/index.php?title=Journal)

The list may not be complete by the way.

Being over 1k already gives me an edge over people who are 999 lvls below 1k so yeah i may be able to get in and we can check our points next Wendesday so i got 3 days next week to do all the shadow missions in that book on every level.

[Taliya]

I hope that ranks play a larger role, or that having helped someone with g1 and g3 finals counts as completing it for giants and elves.

[Deitylight]

I hope that ranks play a larger role, or that having helped someone with g1 and g3 finals counts as completing it for giants and elves.

I seen Royal Alchemist giants/elves on the spot and yet they lose big three points right off that back what that mean for the humans with the low rank alchemy skills? They will either be a lower ranked Royal or rejected entirely and franky i don;t see many alchemist on my sever so i wouldn;t be surpised if elves/giants became one easily caise not all humans have their range/melee/magic capped.

[Grifter]

I know burning the enchants off the suit is futile, but are you allowed to overwrite enchants on the Alch suit :O

[Phunkie]

I know burning the enchants off the suit is futile, but are you allowed to overwrite enchants on the Alch suit :O

You are definitely allowed to. (99% sure.)

[Deitylight]

You are definitely allowed to. (99% sure.)

How many colors do the Royal alchemist outfit comes in?
So far i seen red and brown and red seems more appealing to me.

[Phunkie]

How many colors do the Royal alchemist outfit comes in?
So far i seen red and brown and red seems more appealing to me.

Not too sure about that. I guess we'll see when it comes out? :P

[Cannibal]

Are they dyeable? o-o

[Phunkie]

Are they dyeable? o-o

I would assume so.

Guild robe is so why not? :P

[Deitylight]

Are they dyeable? o-o

They are not dyeable yet they do come in different colors from what i seen.

[Grifter]

You are definitely allowed to. (99% sure.)

Interesting. Definitely using it for enchant bridging then...

Are we allowed to have 2 Royal Alch Suits? Or can you only purchase a new one when you lose the other one?
And does the 2nd purchased suit have the enchants also?

[Phunkie]

Interesting. Definitely using it for enchant bridging then...

Are we allowed to have 2 Royal Alch Suits? Or can you only purchase a new one when you lose the other one?
And does the 2nd purchased suit have the enchants also?

All Royal Alchemist suits have enchants on them. And you can purchase a new one when you lose the other.

Whether you can only purchase the suit while holding the position, I don't exactly know.

However, I would think you can have more than suit at once, if you buy the second. Yeah?

We'll find out on the 11th.

[Ninjam]

Yea ima never get it, not even rb alchemy mastery, and almost no high ranked alchemy skills, r5 barrier doesnt count does it?

Ill add this one to the guides comp tomorow or something too, looks great to me.

[Deitylight]

Yea ima never get it, not even rb alchemy mastery, and almost no high ranked alchemy skills, r5 barrier doesnt count does it?

Ill add this one to the guides comp tomorow or something too, looks great to me.

Not everyone in our sever our alchemist but the journal could be taken into account.

[Phunkie]

Yea ima never get it, not even rb alchemy mastery, and almost no high ranked alchemy skills, r5 barrier doesnt count does it?

Ill add this one to the guides comp tomorow or something too, looks great to me.

Never say never.

If you do want to get the position, follow up that guide I linked to on how to train Alchemy Mastery effectively.

YogurtIceCream did a fantastic job in compiling that information. :)

And thanks! Needs a little bit of work, however. But that'll come soon.

[Phunkie]

I have updated the second post of this guide.

I added an explanation of Journal achievements and two tables listing the mainstream Shadow Missions that allow for Royal Alchemist support. Only for G9 and G10, however, since G11's Shadow Mission names haven't been translated to English yet. I'll include them when we learn of the English names.

:)

[Taliya]

Thinking of enchant sets for a royal alchemist

Title: Royal Alchemist
Accx2: Transparent Water Drop
Royal Alchemist's Boots: (Fearless/Tilted) Flood (I'm assuming you can enchant over what's already there, if not, then guess we're stuck with hot)
gloves: Fearless Water Drop
Water Cylinder: Moist Water Drop (expensive but lets look over that)
Royal Alchemist's Suit: Moist Water Drop (assuming again that you can enchant over and also that you could buy a 2nd to use Scholar when needed)

If I did my math right that's +119 water damage @_@ and +12 crit, and that's before upgrades. :D

[Phunkie]

Haha, you're big on Alchemy too! You should go for it. :)

Imagine when the Tower Cylinder and Chain Cylinder come out in G12 too!

PEW PEW WATER CANNON PEW

[Zyrus]

Man there are so many things in that journal. Guess Ill need to get it nearly totally filled out so that I never lose Royal Status.

[Taliya]

Eventually only humans will be royal alchemists though. =\

[Lycant]

They can help with G11 Final! (cries tears of joy) I vote all Royal Alchemists be over 1k lvls to help me and only me! >:(
UROBORUS MUST DIE!!!!!!

[Phunkie]

Eventually only humans will be royal alchemists though. =\

I hear there's some sort of edit at G12. Dunno what exactly changed yet, but yeah. Humans get the slight advantage at the end.

It's annoying.

[Zyrus]

Eventually only humans will be royal alchemists though. =\

Not neccisarily. I think people overestimate the amount of us who actually did g1 and g3. I skipped both so I lose 200 of those points. I son't know abobut your server but a ton of people on my server skipped.

[Phunkie]

Not neccisarily. I think people overestimate the amount of us who actually did g1 and g3. I skipped both so I lose 200 of those points. I son't know abobut your server but a ton of people on my server skipped.

Also, the hype will eventually die down since the position actually requires an effort on the player's part to get those Quest Points.

Or so I would think.

[Flonne]

I can see a lot of people trying to apply for the first couple to a few weeks before the hype would die. Also, you'd need to be quite active per week to maintain your position.

[Username]

So, say if you got the position, would you have to make the points+ to keep the position, or would you keep ranking your alchemy :V? Its hard to explain where im comming from, but yea.

[Taliya]

You'd have to do both. :x

[Schezo]

Though...I can imagine a Cowboy Hat working SO well with the whole Royal Alchemist ensemble. (Go sim it if you want to see for yourself!)

[Username]

I think Eyepatchs would be cooler.

[Phunkie]

More edits.

-Added some more descriptions about the Royal Alchemist uniform. Cannot be dyed, enchants cannot be burned off and also, I assume it cannot be enchanted over. I need a confirm on the last one, however.

-Added one bit of information on discovering upgrades. Like I mentioned somewhere in this thread, the first person to discover a Cylinder upgrade is the one who gives the permanent name to the upgrade. Sorta like a Seal Stone.

-Added G11 Shadow Mission mainstream chart.


Anywho, lemme know if there's anything else I need to add or correct. We'll definitely find out more info tomorrow when the first round of Royal Alchemists get chosen.

Good luck everyone!

[Username]

Okay so, if your a Royal Alchemist, and you upgrade a Cylinder with a special upgrade. Then you fall out of the standings, is there some restriction if the upgrades work only when your a Royal Alchemist?

[Phunkie]

Okay so, if your a Royal Alchemist, and you upgrade a Cylinder with a special upgrade. Then you fall out of the standings, is there some restriction if the upgrades work only when your a Royal Alchemist?

The name the upgrade gets is just for bragging rights. Nothing more.

Just like when you to go Edern and get the Blade Edge Sharpening upgrade, you'll go to Eabha in Taillteann and get the (Insert Name Here)'s Weight Reduction 1 upgrade for your normal Cylinder.

No restrictions. It's just that you get to name the upgrade if you discover it.

If you discovered that upgrade I just mentioned, it would be named Username's Weight Reduction 1.

Anyone can upgrade their Cylinders, not just Royal Alchemists.

[Username]

So im guessing its a popup or somthing? if not then i should check my cylinder now..

[Phunkie]

So im guessing its a popup or somthing? if not then i should check my cylinder now..

I don't understand what you're trying to say. haha

Anyone can get Cylinder upgrades. They just need to be discovered first. Royal Alchemists do the discovering.

By that logic, you can't get any Cylinder upgrades as of yet (except for Trigger Change (http://wiki.mabinogiworld.com/index.php?title=Cylinder) at Eabha's). We'll start seeing the rest of the upgrades starting tomorrow, when the first batch of people get chosen.

[Phunkie]

Updates:

-Quest Points are now Activity Points.

-Missions for Royal Alchemists do exist, apparently. My first one is just to bring her 5 Mystic Pearls, with 7 Activity Points as the reward.

Limit is one mission per day. Talk to Sinead to get your daily mission.

[Beepuke]

I got a mission to obtain 4 fine cuilin stones, for 8 quest points. :)

[Phunkie]

Aw, lucky!

I wonder if all the Royal Alch. missions are just collection quests.

[Finnea]

I think that someone I know said they got one that told them to kill beepers xD

[Phunkie]

I think that someone I know said they got one that told them to kill beepers xD

Thanks! I wonder what other kinds of missions she gives out. :what:

[Lyrveil]

Aw, lucky!

I wonder if all the Royal Alch. missions are just collection quests.

I have to kill 7 sulfur spider.
You might want to add to your guide that Royal alchemist can't help other royal alchemist with their mainstream; we discovered it the hard way a friend and I.

Oh and never say never indeed. This friend of mine got his royal alchemist with rA alchemy mastery, r5 golem, r5 barrier, and r5 water cannon only. Only 1000 point in the journal too.

[Kaon]

My first one was defeat 7 ghosts of partholon, lol.

[Schezo]

Oh and never say never indeed. This friend of mine got his royal alchemist with rA alchemy mastery, r5 golem, r5 barrier, and r5 water cannon only. Only 1000 point in the journal too.

This post made me feel better ;x

Just gotta get my Mastery up somehow.

[Zid]

http://i36.tinypic.com/jk7ztj.jpg

Seriously?

[Phunkie]

http://i36.tinypic.com/jk7ztj.jpg

Seriously?

Daily missions! Do them for Activity Points!

[Zid]

I can do the Royal Alchemist pose by just equipping a Cylinder. No Royal Alchemist title or clothing needed.

[Phunkie]

I can do the Royal Alchemist pose by just equipping a Cylinder. No Royal Alchemist title or clothing needed.

Thanks! I'll correct that.

Also, experience in Shadow Missions is not at all deducted. Both you and the Royal Alchemist get the same experience and gold rewards.

And Yogurt explained the Cylinder upgrades deal. You have to rediscover them every week. Sounds annoying.

[Username]

Im glad that i didnt become one this week. Im not that strong, im on hard difficulty. and Royal Alchemists cant help Royal alchemists according to the wiki :V

[Deitylight]

I have to kill 5 beepers

[Taliya]

Thanks! I'll correct that.

Also, experience in Shadow Missions is not at all deducted. Both you and the Royal Alchemist get the same experience and gold rewards.

And Yogurt explained the Cylinder upgrades deal. You have to rediscover them every week. Sounds annoying.

Where was this?

Also I had a mission to kill 7 python wizards. Someone should add these to the wiki. x3

EDIT:You have a contradiction in "what are the advantages of being a royal alchemist" section 2, first and last paragraphs.

[Phunkie]

Where was this?

Also I had a mission to kill 7 python wizards. Someone should add these to the wiki. x3

EDIT:You have a contradiction in "what are the advantages of being a royal alchemist" section 2, first and last paragraphs.

Here ya go. :)

http://mabination.com/mabinogi/questions-help/7211-discovering-upgrade.html#post125746

And thanks for proofreading! I have edited that.

[Username]

So, is it possible to get a different colored RA uniform? Because there were different colored ones shown in the preview for G11 on Facebook. so...

[Juno]

It isn't, at least not currently. Not sure why they ditched the previous colors...I really liked them >_<

[Lyrveil]

Is it true that you can bring more than 1 royal alchemist in g11 final? I heard people say that all over the place. It'd be too easy with a full party imo.

[Username]

Is it true that you can bring more than 1 royal alchemist in g11 final? I heard people say that all over the place. It'd be too easy with a full party imo.

If you could bring like 8 people, it would be a massacre for the people.
Im pretty sure you can only bring ONE to a G11 Final

[Taliya]

I can do the Royal Alchemist pose by just equipping a Cylinder. No Royal Alchemist title or clothing needed.

If I remember correctly the poses are different from when you have the title on or not, but are still unique from not being a royal alchemist at all.

[Beepuke]

I'm pretty sure you can only bring one royal alchemist to assist you in solo missions, regardless of what mission it is.

[Zid]

If I remember correctly the poses are different from when you have the title on or not, but are still unique from not being a royal alchemist at all.

http://i34.tinypic.com/1jipy.jpg

http://i35.tinypic.com/2ppx1c8.jpg

Fairly certain it's just only the Cylinder.

[Phunkie]

Is it true that you can bring more than 1 royal alchemist in g11 final? I heard people say that all over the place. It'd be too easy with a full party imo.

You might be confused with that special Shadow Mission in which a full party can fight the Uroboros. haha

[Username]

I'm starting to think all Skills should be Rank F to even begin to qualify. Most people i asked didnt use novice skills to apply. I had 3 when i applied, i changed that now. So i think Rank F or higher is better, and everyone should lose that novice rank alchemy skills. :X Its obvious, but i didnt realise it till now.

[Taliya]

but almost all of us have novice rank spark! D:

[Username]

Yea well, i think spark might be a exception :V

[Lyrveil]

You might be confused with that special Shadow Mission in which a full party can fight the Uroboros. haha

That's exactly what I thought too. And it wasn't me who was confused to be honest. It's just all the people on tarlach who always tell me "I want a full party of royal alchemist for g11 final"

[Zid]

I'm starting to think all Skills should be Rank F to even begin to qualify. Most people i asked didnt use novice skills to apply. I had 3 when i applied, i changed that now. So i think Rank F or higher is better, and everyone should lose that novice rank alchemy skills. :X Its obvious, but i didnt realise it till now.

Make obtaining "the Beginner Alchemist" title a requirement? That's sounds good actually, along with the rB Alchemy Mastery prerequisite.

[Username]

Make obtaining "the Beginner Alchemist" title a requirement? That's sounds good actually, along with the rB Alchemy Mastery prerequisite.

Well, i figured thats why i didn't get in, because everything was rank f but Mana Crystalization (I didnt think about requesting), Summon golem and Rain casting. They are all Rank F or above.
I had Rank B AM, Rank 2 WC and R7 BS, which is now
RA AM, R1 WC and R5 Barrier spikes.
I hope i do get in. AM is the next to get raised, mainly, along with Barrier spikes. Otherwise i dont know what i would rank next.

I just find idiots with Novice skills getting Royal Alchemist is stupid, not very elite if they dont know the basics of every skill (Rank F) :V My Journal also increased quite a bit, and should be around 1300+ before the next choosing.

[Phunkie]

I'm starting to think all Skills should be Rank F to even begin to qualify. Most people i asked didnt use novice skills to apply. I had 3 when i applied, i changed that now. So i think Rank F or higher is better, and everyone should lose that novice rank alchemy skills. :X Its obvious, but i didnt realise it till now.

I have all the pre-G11 alchemy skills, but a lot of them are Rank Novice.

Fragmentation, Mana Crystallization, Sand Burst, Flame Burst.

I don't think that's a req. haha

[Kaon]

I have all the pre-G11 alchemy skills, but a lot of them are Rank Novice.

Fragmentation, Mana Crystallization, Sand Burst, Flame Burst.

I don't think that's a req. haha

I don't even have all those, and my highest alchemy skills are rB mastery and rB crystallization... pretty much nothing else ranked at all. And most of what I do have is novice. So definitely not a req lol.

[Phunkie]

I'm a bit confused on Activity Points.

I already have above 120. Minimum to keep the job is 60.

How does this help me, if at all? The more, the better?


Yup. Guide creator is clueless on this.

[Ailyene]

This is a great guide! However, I'm slightly confused about the synthesis success rate. A royal alchemist in a thread in the Nexon forums said the % is +4% for royal alchemists, but your guide lists +1%. The wiki doesn't say anything about it, so could someone perhaps verify what the +% is? If it is +4, I would really like to try and become a royal alchemist, but if it's only +1...well. x_X

Also, that last dark blue/light blue cylinder is sexy.

[Phunkie]

This is a great guide! However, I'm slightly confused about the synthesis success rate. A royal alchemist in a thread in the Nexon forums said the % is +4% for royal alchemists, but your guide lists +1%. The wiki doesn't say anything about it, so could someone perhaps verify what the +% is? If it is +4, I would really like to try and become a royal alchemist, but if it's only +1...well. x_X

Also, that last dark blue/light blue cylinder is sexy.

It is +4% Synthesis success rate.

1% from the title and 3% from the Academic-enchanted Royal Alchemist suit.

Here's the page on the Academic (known as Scholar on foreign servers) enchant: Rank 3 Enchants - Mabinogi World Wiki (http://wiki.mabinogiworld.com/index.php?title=Scholar#Scholar)

And here's the page on titles: Titles - Mabinogi World Wiki (http://wiki.mabinogiworld.com/index.php?title=Titles#Accomplishments)


Also, thank you! I appreciate your comment. :)

[Ailyene]

Ohhhh, okay. I guess I didn't see that other part. x_X Sorry about that! Anyways, Royal Alchemist is definitely worth getting just for that synthesis bonus for me. <3

[Kaon]

I'm a bit confused on Activity Points.

I already have above 120. Minimum to keep the job is 60.

How does this help me, if at all? The more, the better?


Yup. Guide creator is clueless on this.



Yeah. In the case of there being more than 100 qualified people, it helps decide who gets kicked from the position for a more qualified newer person. So the people with the lowest points still might lose the position even if over 60. As far as I know anyway.

So yeah, more is better lol.

[Beepuke]

I thought it was the case of "if you have less than 60, you're kicked no matter what, if you have more, you're evaluated based on achievements+alchemy skills vs other people." I don't think you'll get kicked automatically if you have more than 60 points.

[Username]

I find it pretty lame, i help on a G9 Final, and it doesnt even give me assitiance points. x.x

EDIT: Ive noticed a glitch, might be just me, but i have to re-equip the boots and robe every time i CC or log in for it to give its Defence and protection bonus's.

[Taliya]

I find it pretty lame, i help on a G9 Final, and it doesnt even give me assitiance points. x.x

EDIT: Ive noticed a glitch, might be just me, but i have to re-equip the boots and robe every time i CC or log in for it to give its Defence and protection bonus's.

That's a confirmed glitch. Also I believe you only get assistance points for solo missions. Also there is a limit of how many times you can get it in a day. You might've hit the cap.

[Fracture]

It also cannot be enchanted over.

A great guide, but I think this this bit may be wrong-- I haven't actually tried it yet, since I had no plan on overwriting either enchant on my Royal robe, but when I was going through enchants for training, Thief (rA Suffix, I think?) listed the Royal Alchemy Robe as an applicable item to enchant on. I haven't tried it again yet, but I'll see if I can get an enchant to use for the purpose of getting a screenshot. It may tell you afterwards that you're not allowed to enchant it, but I'm almost certain it was listed.

Definitely great info on the RA system though.

[Juno]

Sinead will tell you that activity points are only for removing inactive Royals. They exist to prevent someone with high rank skills and a solid journal from quitting and taking up a royal spot for who knows how long.

To that end, 60 will get you measured in the same test everyone else is and anything less is an auto-kick. Getting more doesn't give you a better chance of staying in, as illustrated by the people who lost the position with 200+ and what not.

[Beepuke]

A great guide, but I think this this bit may be wrong-- I haven't actually tried it yet, since I had no plan on overwriting either enchant on my Royal robe, but when I was going through enchants for training, Thief (rA Suffix, I think?) listed the Royal Alchemy Robe as an applicable item to enchant on. I haven't tried it again yet, but I'll see if I can get an enchant to use for the purpose of getting a screenshot. It may tell you afterwards that you're not allowed to enchant it, but I'm almost certain it was listed.

Definitely great info on the RA system though.

Actually, you can enchant over the uniform given to you. I enchanted extraordinary over my 'soggy' prefix, lawl.

[Fracture]

Actually, you can enchant over the uniform given to you. I enchanted extraordinary over my 'soggy' prefix, lawl.

Please tell me boots can be enchanted over too? I love Soggy and Academic, along with Flooded-- but Baking is totally useless and could be better occupied by fearless or something else that gives +crit.

[Beepuke]

I'm not sure about the boots as they're just rotting in my inventory but you could always try? I don't see why they couldn'tbe enchanted over if the suit can be. :)

[Phunkie]

A great guide, but I think this this bit may be wrong-- I haven't actually tried it yet, since I had no plan on overwriting either enchant on my Royal robe, but when I was going through enchants for training, Thief (rA Suffix, I think?) listed the Royal Alchemy Robe as an applicable item to enchant on. I haven't tried it again yet, but I'll see if I can get an enchant to use for the purpose of getting a screenshot. It may tell you afterwards that you're not allowed to enchant it, but I'm almost certain it was listed.

Definitely great info on the RA system though.

Thank you. I'll edit that right now.

[Fracture]

Confirmed on the boots, too, put Difficult over Baking since I don't use fire alchemy for +2% crystal success.

[Taliya]

More people need to use fire alchemy. Its awesome...

[Vanof]

Flame burst can do deadly one-charges with a good set of max damage enchants. :awesome:
I've tested it out personally... It's hax.

[Username]

I noticed that without the Royal Alchemist title, wearing the outfit is pointless, its 6 defence and 4 protection can easily be replaced by a 5/5 heavy armor or 4/4 light armor.
I'd like them to develop a special suit meant for royal alchemists whom became "Alchemy Masters" and give them special bonus's.
As far as titles go, "Alchemy Master" surpasses "Royal Alchemist", but not when with the Royal Alchemist uniform.
There are practically no enchants based for alchemy besides the aparent cylinder enchants, or enchants like waterdrop, which practically do nothing.
So making your own outfit would sacrifice bonus's with Alchemy Master Title.
I personally will only use the royal alchemist outfit and title, till i achieve the Alchemy Master title, aswell as an appropriate outfit to match.
Thats saying your an alchemist who does not wear armor, like me.

[Phunkie]

I noticed that without the Royal Alchemist title, wearing the outfit is pointless, its 6 defence and 4 protection can easily be replaced by a 5/5 heavy armor or 4/4 light armor.
I'd like them to develop a special suit meant for royal alchemists whom became "Alchemy Masters" and give them special bonus's.
As far as titles go, "Alchemy Master" surpasses "Royal Alchemist", but not when with the Royal Alchemist uniform.
There are practically no enchants based for alchemy besides the aparent cylinder enchants, or enchants like waterdrop, which practically do nothing.
So making your own outfit would sacrifice bonus's with Alchemy Master Title.
I personally will only use the royal alchemist outfit and title, till i achieve the Alchemy Master title, aswell as an appropriate outfit to match.
Thats saying your an alchemist who does not wear armor, like me.

If you're a Water Alchemist, the Royal Alchemist title is what you want. But for an all-around Alchemist, definitely the Alchemist Master title.

For crystal-making purposes, the Alchemist Master wins though. You can combine it with Difficult (Rank 9, footwear), the already-enchanted Academic and the title for a total of +6% success when making crystals.

For synthesizing, the Royal Alchemist wins. Combine it with Delicate (Rank B, headgear), the already-enchanted Academic and the title for a total of +5% success when synthesizing.

[Username]

If you're a Water Alchemist, the Royal Alchemist title is what you want. But for an all-around Alchemist, definitely the Alchemist Master title.

For crystal-making purposes, the Alchemist Master wins though. You can combine it with Difficult (Rank 9, footwear), the already-enchanted Academic and the title for a total of +6% success when making crystals.

For synthesizing, the Royal Alchemist wins. Combine it with Delicate (Rank B, headgear), the already-enchanted Academic and the title for a total of +5% success when synthesizing.

Currently, im more of a water alchemist, due to my Watercannon Rank 1, however once Alchemy Mastery hits rank 1, i will be raising Golem to 1.
Big Golems, big windmill radius, Powerful golems.
Who ever was the smartass to make stone golems with 0% crit should die.

[Phunkie]

Currently, im more of a water alchemist, due to my Watercannon Rank 1, however once Alchemy Mastery hits rank 1, i will be raising Golem to 1.
Big Golems, big windmill radius, Powerful golems.
Who ever was the smartass to make stone golems with 0% crit should die.

Oh wow, so that's why I never crit on those Foxes in Tir!

I always wondered why, but never looked on the wiki. haha

[Username]

Oh wow, so that's why I never crit on those Foxes in Tir!

I always wondered why, but never looked on the wiki. haha

You use stone golems preferably to wm spam on weak mobs for battle wins for ranking it. Use Forests and up for fighting, Sulfurs probally for Hard, Forests if your strong enough.
Snow if your feeling frisky/last resort

[Zid]

For synthesizing, the Royal Alchemist wins. Combine it with Delicate (Rank B, headgear), the already-enchanted Academic and the title for a total of +5% success when synthesizing.

Might want to replace Delicate enchant with Melting (http://wiki.mabinogiworld.com/index.php?title=Melting#Melting) enchant.

[Taliya]

I noticed that without the Royal Alchemist title, wearing the outfit is pointless, its 6 defence and 4 protection can easily be replaced by a 5/5 heavy armor or 4/4 light armor.
I'd like them to develop a special suit meant for royal alchemists whom became "Alchemy Masters" and give them special bonus's.
As far as titles go, "Alchemy Master" surpasses "Royal Alchemist", but not when with the Royal Alchemist uniform.
There are practically no enchants based for alchemy besides the aparent cylinder enchants, or enchants like waterdrop, which practically do nothing.
So making your own outfit would sacrifice bonus's with Alchemy Master Title.
I personally will only use the royal alchemist outfit and title, till i achieve the Alchemy Master title, aswell as an appropriate outfit to match.
Thats saying your an alchemist who does not wear armor, like me.


That's couldn't be further of from the truth. If you don't like the title or just want to melee instead, the RA clothes can be enchanted over with nearly anything. They come with high ranked enchants to start with. So lets say you wanted to make a max damage set like Extraordinary White Horse combo'd with dual stout earthquake accessories. Normally the best you could get for clothes is 4/2 after upgrades. RA outfits starts off with 6/4.

Waterdrop is a lot more beneficial then max damage for alchemy. Any +alchemy damage is affected by multipliers like alchemy mastery, saturday bonus, cylinder bonus, stack charge bonus, rain cloud.

That being said, you can't possibly get moist on clothing. That alone makes the RA outfit better for the alchemist that make water their main form of attack.



Might want to replace Delicate enchant with Melting (http://wiki.mabinogiworld.com/index.php?title=Melting#Melting) enchant.

Delicate is a prefix and Melting is a suffix.

Also, when you find Melting it comes on teeth-patterned ankle boots so there's even more potential there.

[Zid]

Delicate is a prefix and Melting is a suffix.

Also, when you find Melting it comes on teeth-patterned ankle boots so there's even more potential there.

Didn't realize it was a suffix. Meaning Delicate Melting (hat) could work. +4% Synthesis boost there.

[Omegatronic]

Normally the best you could get for clothes is 4/2 after upgrades. RA outfits starts off with 6/4.


Whaaaa? 3 upgrades give +4/+2 making store bought clothing 6/2. Rank B+ tailored clothing would be 6/4, while A+ would be 7/4. The RA outfit cannot be upgraded.

[Phunkie]

Didn't realize it was a suffix. Meaning Delicate Melting (hat) could work. +4% Synthesis boost there.

Ah, thanks. I missed that one enchant. haha

So I guess it's...

Melting (suffix, headgear) = +3%
Delicate (prefix, headgear) = +1%
Melting Teeth-Pattern Boots (SM chest) = +3%
Academic RA suit = +3%
RA title = +1%

Total Synthesis boost = +11% success rate

:D


And apparently, there's a Maker (prefix) enchant that comes out in Chapter 4. (Source (http://seraph.heliohost.org/db/))

It's for gloves and the effect is:


If Barrier Spikes Rank D+, Crystal-making Success Rate+1%
If Summon Golem Rank D+, Crystal-making Success Rate+2%

That would add a total of +9% success rate to crystal-making.

[Taliya]

Whaaaa? 3 upgrades give +4/+2 making store bought clothing 6/2. Rank B+ tailored clothing would be 6/4, while A+ would be 7/4. The RA outfit cannot be upgraded.

Ah, read the wiki wrong. Still, 6/4 to start off with and r5 enchants already included to enchant over is win.

[Trigger]

I have the Alchemy Master title and frankly the Royal Alchemist title is better in the vast majority of cases. All of my other alchemy is Rank 1 or capped aside from Frozen Blast and Shock, and my crystal-making success rates are extremely high (if not already capped at 99%) WITHOUT using crystal-making success bonuses.

Synthesis, on the other hand, needs bonuses because of its relatively low success rate. With the Royal Alchemist title and suit (because the shoes do nothing for Synthesis) and a Delicate hat, I can reach 99% random synthesis on Saturday under approximately lv10 rain (94% with no rain on Saturday). Putting Melting on my shoes and hat would make it still easier to obtain the max success rate.

[Omegatronic]

Ah, read the wiki wrong. Still, 6/4 to start off with and r5 enchants already included to enchant over is win.

I'm not denying that the uniform is nice. I wish I could still wear one. :-D