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Invertex
08-20-2010, 10:15 PM
Reposting this as a new topic on Brad's request.

I don't even have full BP on most of these, but I should know enough to help get enough BP for the whole mission line. Token restrictions makes it hard for me to really give a complete guide for a lot of these. Though as of the beta, if you fail a mission the tokens don't get used up.

Note that this guide is written by someone playing as Fiona, I tried to avoid talk about blocking but if you Lann players have something to add, feel free to do so. I also will not do a walkthrough of the whole mission as you should be able to beat that yourself.

What is BP? (Copy pasted from the Perilous Ruins thread)
Battle Points (or Completion Points) are points awarded for doing various things in a mission. Most quests require a certain ammount of BP (usually 100-160 BP) on previous battles to do them. BP is obtained in 3 different ways.

Mission
The base BP, you just need to clear the battle.

Bonus Missions
Bonus missions usually involve killing enemies in certain ways, finding items, or not letting your equipment break. Most of these are easy, except finding items is probably the hardest type as they are extremely luck based. Completing these also rewards bonus Gold (though usually the ammount is negligable)

Oaths
Oaths are difficulty modifiers that either prevent you from using items, increase difficulty, or limit your party size. You should usually run with one of these on as they offer good EXP bonuses.

Note that you cannot use the same Oath twice to gain BP, you must clear the mission with an Oath you have not used yet to gain more BP.
Missions and Oaths are sometimes marked with a (P). This means that it's a running total for the entire party. So, for example, if P1 gets 3/10 kills, P2 gets 2/10, P3 gets 4/10, and P4 gets 1/10, it will get completed for everyone in the party.

Missions

Hoarfrost Hollow - Level 5
175 BP

Mission BP - 35

Total Bonus Mission BP - 40
Defeat Etunoch with objects (P) (25BP)
It should be only the finishing blow with an object, but the item finish objectives just love to glitch, so you'll need to waste a few tokens for this.

Obtain 2 Average Kobold Cloth (15BP)
Normal Kobolds and the boss drop these, just hope your luck is good (or bad if you really wanted something else) and run this a few times. One of the least frustrating missions.

Total Oath BP - 100
Win within 5 minutes (40BP)
Not hard with a full party, run your way through. Use the spike trap for that small Kobold mob, and don't go for the item kill on the boss.

Win while playing solo (25BP)
Still not to hard to solo, but you may want to get better equipment if you're having trouble. Spears again are good, 2 to stun (which is a free combo).

Win without potions (35BP)
Not hard in a party, just try not to get hit by the spike trap. Instant death is not fun and you pretty much get your armor broken and lose 50% HP upon revival.

Western Ice Passage - Level 6
150 BP

Mission BP - 25

Total Bonus Mission BP - 45
Defeat Eflame (P) (20BP)
I have actually NEVER run into Eflame (wisp miniboss) while running this level. Really I either have to assume my luck is horrible or it's tucked in some random corner.

Obtain Slingshot Grenade (15BP)
This is a boss drop, it's only called Slingshot. Really it is sort of rare and you end up needing 2 total for all your sidequests, so just go for this while doing everything else for this mission.

Obtain Broken Arrow (10BP)
Archer Kobolds, pretty much all there is to say about this.

Total Oath BP - 80
Win while playing solo (20BP)
Again, pretty easy solo. The boss is quite a bit more annoying as he'll always be targeting you, just get around his shots and poke him a few times. Again, spears are great solo tools.

Equipment destroyed <10 times (P) (30BP)
Don't get hit and you'll be fine. Even then, if you solo this, you'll have a really easy time doing this as well. Too bad we can't use two oaths at once.

Win without using feathers (30BP)
Really this level has no instant death gimmicks and the boss is easy in a party, so this is a pretty safe bet.

Southern Rock Cliff - Level 6
200 BP

Mission BP - 40

Total Bonus Mission BP - 80
Obtain Copper Ore (25BP)
Bring mining bombs, there's a mining spot near the Erg pot in the 2nd area and there's one hidden under a building in the boss area. Doing this in a party makes some of the ores your party's, but do it enough and you'll find some. You probably should do this either way as Copper is needed for a lot of good crafting.

Obtain Kobold Battleaxe (20BP)
I do believe this is a drop off the boss. Running it for the oaths and missions should get you this.

Defeat Speedy Ekuloch (P) (35BP)
Now this is annoying, Speedy Ekuloch is the miniboss for this level. After taking a bit of damage a notice saying "Speedy Ekuloch is attempting to escape" or something like that will appear. If you don't stun/trip him before he backflips, waves, and dissapears, you lose. Now normally tripping is a good option, but not here. Kobolds have tiny legs so it's hard for you to hit them on the fly. What you should do instead is bring spears, and just spam spears the instant the notice comes up. He should be stunned in one spear hit, so you can easily just lock him up with them. Note that this one will not stop trying to escape once he starts.

Total Oath BP - 80
Win within 6 min (45BP)
Run, actually let Speedy Ekuloch get away as that saves time, and use spears or a hook to stun lock the boss.

Incapacitated <3 Times (35BP)
That's less than 3, not a heart. Anyways, just run as normal and you should be fine. This isn't a very hard level either so really, it's a safe bet.

Meet the Cave Spider - Level 6
100 BP

Thanks to Zid for telling me this exists, you need to get a Spider Cave Scroll from Brynn's research before you can do this quest.

Mission BP - 100

Total Bonus Mission BP - 0

Total Oath BP - 0

Another Slingshot - Level 7
170 BP

Little note here, you get this by completing Riely's (I think that's his name) slingshot request. He'll ask for more and you'll unlock this along with Final Slingshot.

Mission BP - 25

Total Bonus Mission BP - 70
Obtain Modified Slingshot Grenade (15BP)
Item name is just Modified Slingshot. The boss is a double boss, this is dropped by Brother Ebeloch. It's a pretty rare drop, but feel free to skip this as the next mission in this line (Final Slingshot) features Brother Ebeloch as well, so you can get a Modified Slingshot.

Defeath Elfame with a spear (P) (35BP)
Elfame seems to appear more often in this mission, it moves a lot more so spearing it can be a problem. Just hope you hit and you should be fine.

Equipment destroyed <5 times (20BP)
If you don't repair/repair enough/don't get hit, you'll get this easily. Free 1.1k gold!

Total Oath BP - 75
Win while playing solo (25BP)
Haven't done this yet, the double boss will probably be a pain solo, but you should be fine if you take your time and save your spears.

Season of Macha (difficulty up) (30BP)
Turn it down to Normal if you have to and get a full party, it should be easy enough.

Win without repairing armor (20BP)
With the bonus mission, you should be doing this.

Fomorian Order - Level 8
155 BP

Mission BP - 25

Total Bonus Mission BP - 50
Defeat Fake Ekuloch (P) (15BP)
&
Defeat Both Fake Ekuloch (P) (25BP)
These both are the same thing, there are 2 Speedy Ekulochs here so use the same strategy as in Western Ice Passage and you should get these easily. Only difference here is that it takes 2 spears to stun and they don't constantly attempt to escape.

Obtain Kobold Horn Decoration (10BP)
This should be dropped by the boss (and maybe the Fake Ekulochs), so just hope for the best (as per usual).

Total Oath BP - 100
Win within 10 min (20BP)
Haven't done this yet, but it sounds sort of hard. I'd let both Fakes get away to save time and just run through the whole level as you usually should. Save all your spears for the boss as it is a pretty annoying one to get in on.

Win without Pheonix Feathers (25BP)
Not too hard, just the obvious "don't get hit" stuff. Try not to fall off the bridges as well, you shouldn't even take those since the Kobolds always cut them down.

Win with 2 or fewer players (35BP)
Go for the 2 player rush, feel free to skip the Fakes as well. Not too hard otherwise.

Final Slingshot - Level 8
165 BP

Mission BP - 35

Total Bonus Mission BP - 45
Obtain Upgraded Slingshot Grenade (15BP)
It's all drop luck again (and again, the item is just Upgraded Slingshot), this comes from Big Brother in the Ebeloch trio fight. This is a good level to grind for that sidequest as you can get every slingshot from this mission (and I have actually done so).

Equipment destoryed <5 times (30BP)
You already know what goes here.

Total Oath BP - 85
Incapacitated <3 times (20BP)
Not too hard, it can be hard to use a potion with the trio boss, but it can't be THAT hard.

Win with 2 or fewer players (30BP)
Go with 2 players, and go from weakest to strongest on the boss. That or have one person being cannon fodder while you combo them from behind.

Season of Macha (difficulty up) (35BP)
No real tactics sides the weakest to strongest on the boss trio. Really if 4 people gang up on the normal Ebeloch, he goes down in less than a minute.

Brynn's Research - Level 9
160 BP

Mission BP - 30

Total Bonus Mission BP - 55
Obtain Hoarfrost Hollow Erg Crystal (15BP)
Oh boy another Erg quest, smash stuff up and hope for the best. You'll probably end up wanting 6 for the Savage Ring anyways.

Obtain Spider Cave Scroll (20BP)
These are a drop from Cave Spiders. Only a single one spawns in the third area. There are 2 potential maps, the one you're looking for is the one with two bridges overlapping each other. Drop down and go under the bridge to trigger the spawn. It's a percent drop chance so you won't get it all the time.

Kill Cave Wisp with small bomb (P) (20BP)
Have someone bring bombs, go to the Erg Pot in the boss area, and chuck one at the 3 wisps. That should kill one and get you the mission.

Total Oath BP - 75
Season of Macha (difficulty up) (30BP)
Not too hard. The boss is really predictable with a party. If he drinks a potion and glows orange/red, run away and dodge to the side (he throws the potion pot at you), if he glows green, circle around him as he'll do a spray infront of him. He rarely uses his knife so feel free to ignore that. If you're not his target, just combo him freely.

Win without secondary weapons (25BP)
Not hard, just can't do the bomb mission here. Use the same tactics as Macha and you'll be fine.

Win without potions (20BP)
Just do what you did with Macha, really all there is to be said.

Frost Stones - Level 9
185 BP

You get this from a Shayla sidequest, it's a good Night Shade and gem farming spot.

Mission BP - 35

Total Bonus Mission BP - 95
Defeat Quiremigal with objects (P) (35BP)
Just the finishing blow needs to be with an item, again this tends to glitch as well.

Obtain 2 Copper Ores (20BP)
Not one but two, the pain. Bring mining bombs and hope for the best. Also hope you face King Icedredge as a miniboss as the blue tentacles (and the miniboss himself) have a chance of dropping copper. The boss also drops these, so it is actually possible to get 2 Coppers off it.

Obtain Peridot (15BP)
&
Obtain Frost Stone (25BP)
These gems are gotten from King Icedredge and Quiremigal. Really all you can do is run this enough and you'll get it eventually.

Total Oath BP - 100
Win without repairing armor (30BP)
The bosses are a pain to get in on, the best you can hope for is to not face King Icedredge.

Win within 10 min (25BP)
Again, haven't done this. What I can say is run as fast as you can (when don't you?) and hope you don't face King Icedredge.

Kobold Chief - Level 10
245 BP

Mission BP - 40

Total Bonus Mission BP - 85
Obtain Destroyed Spiked Shield (break off) (15BP)
More breaking off fun, this time it's the left arm of the Chief. I believe 3/4 hits will do it. Try to wait until after he's done attacking, or for the more convinient option, have someone run away from him while everyone else lines up their shot. A slow Chief moving in a single predictable direction is an easy Chief to hit.

Obtain Copper Ore (20BP)
Mining bombs as usual. Pretty much all ores are like this.

Obtain 2 Remnants (20BP)
Not too bad due to the length of the level, not sure if Elfame is a miniboss here (but if it is, Remnants can easily be gotten from it). Smash everything else up otherwise.

Equipment destroyed <5 times
Really nothing to say, the boss is hard to beat without at least losing 2 armor parts though.

Total Oath BP - 120
Warrior's Challenge (solo mode) (20BP)
The stage is shortened again, 1 area instead of 3. Set up a campfire before you move into the boss area for the stat bonuses and to repair everything, as you don't get any time inside the boss room itself. For the boss, 2 lances to stun. His move set consists of a shoulder thrust, a 2 punch combo (2nd one tracks you a bit), and when he goes and makes a ball, either he'll do a 2 shoulder thrust combo behind him or nothing. Just learn these, be conservative on your combo after dodging, and you should be fine. His 2 punch combo sometimes cuts off and it does inflict the Knife Wound status (instant -300HP pretty much), so avoid that at all costs.

Win with 2 or fewer players (25BP)
Not that hard, just have one person act as bait while the other combos the Chief to hell from behind. Switch roles when he switches targets. Again, read the moves section about 5 lines above from here and you'll be fine.

Season of Macha (difficulty up) (40BP)
This can be quite difficult, I actually failed this once as we ran out of feathers. Really the only thing to say is try not to get hit. If you do get hit by him (mainly his 2 hit combo) and get the Knife Wound status, run the hell away. If you need to repair, try not to use a campfire anvil as he tends to automatically switch targets to the person repairing.

Win within 20 min (35BP)
The boss itself can take several minutes, so this is a tight squeeze. You should have 10 minutes for the boss, who will go down in that time span if you spam spears enough.

Dethrone the White Tyrant (RAID) - Level 10
140 BP

Mission BP - 15

Total Bonus Mission BP - 45
Finish Giant Polar Bear with kicks (P) (10BP)
Just weaken him, and kick him. If he's not stunned but is at low health, wait for him to roar and kick spam him then.

Defeat Giant Polar Bear with objects (P) (10BP)
This is glitched as well, I did it and didn't get it. Either way, same drill as with kicking, but with an item.

Obtain Savage Eye (break off) (15BP)
Hardest break off item yet. The eye is that huge red glowing one, can't miss it. Problem is the bear just hates sitting still, your best chance is to have him lunge at you, back off just enough so he misses. After that you'll have a point blank spear throw right into his eye. Other method are just waiting for his 2 swipe combo and hitting him then.

Equpment destroyed <5 times (10BP)
I get this almost all the time, really you just need to dodge. He has a 180 swipe to clear out people beside and behind him, a backwards jump that lands on anyone behind him. A lunge for distance, 2 swipes which go left than right, get to the side to avoid that. After he roars (2 bars or less), his swipe becomes a triple swipe which tracks and goes literally everywhere.

Total Oath BP - 80
Win within 15 min (10BP)
This is not hard at all, the party I had when I did this did it in just over 5 minutes. Spear spam and don't go for the eye.

Win with 4 or fewer players (15BP)
Still not too hard, learn the move set (under the bonus missions), and you'll get this. Main problem is that it takes longer.

Win with 2 or fewer players (15BP)
This I can imagine is painful, but doable. It'd take a long time as well. Just spread out, have one act as bait while the other does some combos, and switch when he targets the other person (just like the chief). It takes 4/5 spears (I think) to stun him as well, so ration those.

Win while playing solo (10BP)
Oh god... I really have no comment for this. Good luck? Really the only thing you can do is poke him while dodging. You do have 2 stuns via spears however, so you get a half bar off for free.

Season of Macha (difficulty up) (20BP)
See what I said about the equipment destruction. Same tactics apply, don't get hit, and use Fine HP Potions after you do get hit. The bear is too damaging to wait for <400HP to heal.

Win without Pheonix Feathers (10BP)
Competent party can do this (in a similar style to the within 15 minute one). Spam spears, get in and do an extended combo (4 Normals and a Smash) followed by a short one.

Prepare for Counterattack - Level 11
275 BP

Mission BP - 20

Total Bonus Mission BP - 125
Kill 2 Commanders with objects (P) (15BP)
The commanders are just the bosses (this is a boss rush afterall). I'd do them on the first two as they do get progresively harder. The boss order is Jolly Ebeloch (slingshot one), Speedy Ekuloch (axe one) with a Cunning Ekuloch (however he tends to have his HP bar glitch and not show), Robust Echeloch (potion user), and Sturdy Emuloch (Kobold chief).

Kill 3 Commanders with spears (P) (20BP)
&
Kill 4 Commanders with spears (P) (40BP)
Just save all your spears for finishing them off, and you should get these. Hardest one would be the Chief as he has a huge health bar and it can be hard to get in on him without the spears.

Obtain 3 Rare Ergs (P) (20BP)
This is a short mission, so hope for some luck in the first area before the boss rush. That and spawn the Wisps near the Erg Pot for some more chances.

Obtain 8 Iron Ores (P)
Having someone bring mining bombs here is a pain, but it's not too bad if you can beat the bosses without spears. There are 2 or 3 mining spots in the large bridge room and 2 in the boss room. I've already gotten this about 3 times so it's actually quite easy.

Equipment destroyed <5 times (15BP)
This is actually a decent challenge as this is a heavy combat mission with 4 bosses. Just do well and mob up the first 3 bosses fast enough and you should get this.

Total Oath BP - 130
Win within 16 min (20BP)
You need to wait a preset ammount of time through the first 3 bosses anyways, so this boils down to how fast you can kill the Chief. Not sure of the timing frame though.

Win without repairing armor (20BP)
You'll be repairing armor a lot in this fight, needless to say this is a pretty tough (but one of the more reasonable) oaths.

Win without potions (25BP)
Well good luck getting through 4 bosses in a row without pots. The only real tip I can give is beat the bosses as fast as you can, then go make a campfire, and heal up between rounds.

Win with 2 or fewer players (30BP)
I doubt this is impossible, but it's probably very hard. Chances are you won't be fast enough to finish the first boss before the second, the second before the third, and the third before the chief. So if you can deal with the backlog and the Kobold Chief 2 player oath, you can do this.

Season of Macha (difficulty up) (35BP)
Pretty much if you've played Hard or Macha on previous missions, this one is pretty much the final test. Not too hard in the end, just be ready to use a lot of Fine HP potions.

Other Tips
Really the best thing I can offer is to use campfires. Replace the stam pots on hotkey 4 with a kit, pop one down before the boss, drag some wood into it, and get the +100 attack bonus.

Oh, and about campfires. They also give you a armor regeneration bonus. This is crucial to the equipment breaking missions as it extends the life of your armor tenfold. You can spam Counterattack with Fiona and not have your shield die for instance.

Again, breaking off can be done with spears or a well aimed smash. Mainly for the Kobold Chief here. Smashing him when he's curled up or counters with Fiona will make quick work of the shield.

You can assign both HP and Fine HP potions onto your hotkeys at the same time, normally I run with Potion/Feather/Repair Kits/Campfire Kit, but if you're running solo, replace the feathers with another set of potions.

You can cancel repairing your armor with the dodge button, this is good for solo bosses where you only have brief time frames to repair. You'd usually use this is when you break your shield as Fiona.


I just thought I'd add my 2 cents here, on missions that have the oath "Win without repairing armor", you can still make a campfire. This is important because making the campfire also creates an anvil on which you can repair your armor on, which kinda sorta bypasses the entire oath lol. Not sure if this will work past cbt though.

Following are copy pasted from the other topic.

You are allowed feathers in no potion runs, use that to your advantage.

Moving to the next area automatically revives everyone who is dead, even on a no feather run.

Playing on hard increases the items the boss drops from 3 to 4. Use Hard if you really are having a hard time with some of the boss drops.

If you're running low on spears/hooks, you don't need to go back to Merrac. There's a cat to the left of the gate to town that sells most of the secondary weapons.

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And second unintended wall of text is done.

Hiccup
08-20-2010, 10:27 PM
:2thumb:

LimeD
08-21-2010, 02:58 AM
I just thought I'd add my 2 cents here, on missions that have the oath "Win without repairing armor", you can still make a campfire. This is important because making the campfire also creates an anvil on which you can repair your armor on, which kinda sorta bypasses the entire oath lol. Not sure if this will work past cbt though.

Invertex
08-21-2010, 07:43 AM
I always avoided the Anvil thinking Devcat would autofail you for using the anvil (or just not spawn it), seems that they didn't. I'll add that to the first post.

Science
08-21-2010, 08:18 AM
Did Invertex get her Spider Cave scroll yet? xD

/proguide

Invertex
08-21-2010, 08:21 AM
I haven't ran Brynn's Research enough, I've been trying to get full BP on some other less luck based missions first.

Science
08-21-2010, 08:23 AM
I haven't ran Brynn's Research enough, I've been trying to get full BP on some other less luck based missions first.

You should help me get some BP on Kobold Chieftain :D...

Oh yeah, i sent you a destroyed spiked shield and a few red metals :o

Invertex
08-21-2010, 08:27 AM
I'm willing to help (and thanks for the stuff :O).

But as for now, running Warrior's Challenge so I can write a better guide for it.

Science
08-21-2010, 08:28 AM
I'm willing to help (and thanks for the stuff :O).

But as for now, running Warrior's Challenge so I can write a better guide for it.

Oh god have fun with that...

Lie
08-24-2010, 09:27 AM
I noticed you don't have the battle "Meet the Cave Spider".

Is the scroll really that hard to get? I got it on my first try of Brynn's Research.

http://i35.tinypic.com/1zqsw83.jpg

http://i36.tinypic.com/j8lkpt.jpg

Yes, you read that right. No Bonus Missions or Oath of Honor. Just a Mission BP of 100 points. At lvl 6 requirement too.

The mission's really easy. It's basically nothing but Red Spider mobs in every room. The boss is 2 Red Soldier Spiders. Basically, slightly bigger Red Spiders with the usual boss characteristics.

I like the place because you can easily obtain "Spider Bomber" titles in there.

Invertex
08-24-2010, 11:12 AM
Well Brynn's Research refuses to even give me a Spider Cave Scroll, so I really can't write anything for it.
Guess I'll just add it in.

EDIT
Managed to find one, turns out you have to be playing on Hard for it to drop, yay my lazyness and playing Normal.

Spartacas117
09-19-2010, 11:41 AM
Hi, i just made an account today, and basically because i was reading these guides for free and then i saw a post by you saying you are doing or "running" the Warriors Challenge. Its actually quite easy. i just beat it today. I lost the first time because i was unprepared and didnt even realize that if you broke all your armor you lose. So i did it one more time and won. to tell you the truth it was easy to a degree but more so difficult in...patience. Basically the first "mini-boss" guy, you know the Goblin looking fellow. Well he is actually simple to beat so far as you get close to him (face to face) and then slip dash backwards. So he will either do his cirlce slash (thats the one you want him to do) or the regular angle slash. When he does the circle clash, where he spins in a circle with his weapon out and then reverses, you have already dodged the first attack when he initially does the circle, just wait for the 2nd attack from when he is turning back and then push forward and attack him. After attacking him retreat. just keep doing this and he goes down. kill all the other creatures and you are on to the next part, the real boss. Once you enter into the bosses area there will be those stronger and fasster goblin creature things... kill them quickly. or another fun thing i do to spice it up, let the boss kill them. Get close to him and he smashes down, if they are around they get killed.

Now the grueling part... extreme patience needed. Basically, you hit and go like you did to the mini-boss bit with this guy, you circle around him hoping he does the double smash attack .where he smashes once and then lunges himself another time and sits there for a few seconds and then stands up. As soon as he does the 2nd smash that is your green. Your time to shine. Your time to attack. With Lann you can get off with doing the thousand needles or whatever its called but only for a little but of it and then do the smash. Retreat after, or more so while he is standing up. To retreat use your dashing abilites. (dodge and 2nd evade or wahtever) Keep doing this and eventually you will win. Same process over and over.

thats all i wanted to share with you. i brought with me, a repair kit, my hp potions and some potion that increases my ATT power by 400. i would use that when i did my attqck and retreat method. that way when you attack, it does a good deal of damage. Especially since i wasnt using the greatest of all blades.

Invertex
09-19-2010, 12:13 PM
Hi, i just made an account today, and basically because i was reading these guides for free and then i saw a post by you saying you are doing or "running" the Warriors Challenge. Its actually quite easy. i just beat it today. I lost the first time because i was unprepared and didnt even realize that if you broke all your armor you lose. So i did it one more time and won. to tell you the truth it was easy to a degree but more so difficult in...patience. Basically the first "mini-boss" guy, you know the Goblin looking fellow. Well he is actually simple to beat so far as you get close to him (face to face) and then slip dash backwards. So he will either do his cirlce slash (thats the one you want him to do) or the regular angle slash. When he does the circle clash, where he spins in a circle with his weapon out and then reverses, you have already dodged the first attack when he initially does the circle, just wait for the 2nd attack from when he is turning back and then push forward and attack him. After attacking him retreat. just keep doing this and he goes down. kill all the other creatures and you are on to the next part, the real boss. Once you enter into the bosses area there will be those stronger and fasster goblin creature things... kill them quickly. or another fun thing i do to spice it up, let the boss kill them. Get close to him and he smashes down, if they are around they get killed.

Now the grueling part... extreme patience needed. Basically, you hit and go like you did to the mini-boss bit with this guy, you circle around him hoping he does the double smash attack .where he smashes once and then lunges himself another time and sits there for a few seconds and then stands up. As soon as he does the 2nd smash that is your green. Your time to shine. Your time to attack. With Lann you can get off with doing the thousand needles or whatever its called but only for a little but of it and then do the smash. Retreat after, or more so while he is standing up. To retreat use your dashing abilites. (dodge and 2nd evade or wahtever) Keep doing this and eventually you will win. Same process over and over.

thats all i wanted to share with you. i brought with me, a repair kit, my hp potions and some potion that increases my ATT power by 400. i would use that when i did my attqck and retreat method. that way when you attack, it does a good deal of damage. Especially since i wasnt using the greatest of all blades.

Well, I'm using a Fiona, so Lann strategies don't work too well. I didn't intend to have to put in-depth boss strategies in this guide (as that's not my forte), though I could always make a new guide just for mosters. Also note I do have to update this with OB info sooner or later, there are some changes that do matter (such as the lack of 100% drop of the Spider Cave Scroll, argh).

Chockeh
09-19-2010, 11:20 PM
Cave spider scroll on normal mode confirmed.

Invertex
09-19-2010, 11:32 PM
Cave spider scroll on normal mode confirmed.

They changed the reqs anyways. It's now a percent drop rate from the proper 3rd map.
aka 0/6 on Hard for me, curses.

Sinned
09-23-2010, 06:19 PM
If I may add- In the case that you're soloing a mission with multiple bosses (Another Slingshot or Counterattack for example), the room allows you to lure one boss at a time by using the corridor that you enter the room in

In the case that both follow you, keep trying to shake one off by running back and forth between the corner. It can be done, it was how I was able to solo counterattack because there's just no way I could take the Sturdy Ekuloch and Robust Echeloch at the same time (i can post SS if you want)

You can either lure them inside corridor and kill them there or trap one inside and do the other one outside although I don't know how I managed to keep the Robust one stuck inside while the Sturdy followed o_o

Ruquion
09-23-2010, 10:27 PM
For the Slingshot ones, I find it easier to just make them stun each other.

Invertex
09-23-2010, 10:29 PM
I didn't plan to go too much into boss strategies in this guide. This is more of a guideline thread to give you an idea on what to do.
Again, this and my Perilous Ruins guide requires a LOT of updating. New level reqs, changes to drops, etc.

aznboi506
09-25-2010, 12:07 AM
Reposting this as a new topic on Brad's request.

Total Bonus Mission BP - 45
Defeat Eflame (P) (20BP)
I have actually NEVER run into Eflame (wisp miniboss) while running this level. Really I either have to assume my luck is horrible or it's tucked in some random corner.



It's just a random encounter while going through the dungeon but if you think you're luck is bad, i dced after killing Eflame T_T

Spartaaaaa
10-01-2010, 07:16 PM
What exactly is the point of maxing out BP (other than for those event quests)?

Ruquion
10-01-2010, 07:38 PM
Clarification on the Spider Scroll.
In Brynn's Research, there are two types of spiders: Red Spiders, and Cave Spiders.
Cave Spiders are few in number and they are the ones which drop the scroll

Lie
10-01-2010, 08:04 PM
What exactly is the point of maxing out BP (other than for those event quests)?

Supposedly a completion-ist's title/reward is given when attained maximum BP.

Never saw it happened though.

Andy-Buddy
10-01-2010, 08:23 PM
I am 20 BP away.

Dammit, I need to mine moar.

I'm hating those Copper Ores right now.

Science
10-01-2010, 09:34 PM
Supposedly a completion-ist's title/reward is given when attained maximum BP.

Never saw it happened though.

We need Red Tyrant for Hoarfrost max Bp I think. So it might work next update.

Icegoten
10-26-2010, 09:54 PM
Anyone know where the blessed magic powder in Culprit Behind the Disturbance? Do they come from items like pots and boxes or from an evil core from the boss?

Ruquion
10-26-2010, 10:05 PM
Anyone know where the blessed magic powder in Culprit Behind the Disturbance? Do they come from items like pots and boxes or from an evil core from the boss?
I believe they drop from objects, albeit rarely...
Your best bet would probably be to keep killing Eflame till he drops one...

heretic304
10-27-2010, 03:33 AM
I've only ever seen Blessed Magic Powder drop from Erg Pots and Wisps. Breaking random objects only gives regular Magic Powder

Sluggs
11-02-2010, 04:51 PM
there is one more hoarfrost hollow battle called culprit behind the disturbance which requires being at least lvl 27.

it is unlocked from the sub story libertine of hoarfrost hollow.

Dejagg
11-05-2010, 06:57 PM
From your other guide:
Added since OB:
Source of the Rumor - Level 18 (Boat 2)
155 BP

Unlocked via a questline, Tieve will ask you if you value Health or Money, follow either of them and this should be unlocked on the final step.

Mission BP - 20
Total Bonus Mission BP - 60
Obtain Copper Ore (25BP)
I am only aware of one mining spot at the moment, it's the small one near the Erg pot in the boss room. I'm sure there are more in the usual locations during the level, but good luck getting this to drop.
Credits to Sinned on the next part, but there are also a few Icedredges in this mission that may drop Copper. But again, the drop rate is still very low.

Obtain 3 Rare Ergs (P) (20BP)
Easy enough, there's an Erg pot in the boss room, and Hoarfrost Ergs are suprisingly common when you smash things up.

Equipment Destroyed <5 times (15BP)

Total Oath BP - 75
Win with 2 or fewer players (20BP)
I'd go with 2. It's a pain to solo a triple boss. Try to take down the two weaker ones (not going to mention their names as that's part of the whole pun the quest is based on), they tend to group up as they're both melee type enemies, making hitting both with a Counter or Hurricane simple. After that, usual Final Slingshot strategies.

Win without repairing armor (25BP)

Season of Macha (30BP)

Culprit Behind the Disturbance - Level 27 (Boat 2)
145 BP

Unlocked via a questline, Gwynn gets mad at you for spamming Tyrant speedruns. After running White Tyrant and Counterattack, you'll unlock this.

Mission BP - 20

Total Bonus Mission BP - 30
Defeat 10 kobolds with objects (P) (10BP)

Obtain Ekelch Potion (10BP)
Boss drop, pretty common, so you'll only need 2 runs at most.

Obtain Blessed Magic Powder (10BP)
You'll need Eflame to spawn in order to have a realistic chance of having this drop. Even then, good luck with the core (yes it only drops a single one).

Total Oath BP - 95
Win with 2 or fewer players (20BP)
This mission is pretty easy up until the boss. A solo is possible (and quite fun, I think Baku infected me with something), but go with two people if you want to play it safe. You may want to adapt a run the hell away while flailing arms approach to when the boss sharpens his sword, that thing hurts a lot. Fionas can be very aggresive however, as the boss only has one smash move. Otherwise, just run and poke.

Equipment destroyed <10 times (P) (20BP)
Solo with this on if you don't trust other people, you only wear 6 breakable things at max.

Win within 12 min (25BP)
The limit here has about 1-2 minutes of buffer. You still want to be running through to the boss, as 5 minutes is about how much time he'll take.

Season of Macha (30BP)

White Tyrant's Challenge - Level 36 (Boat 2) (aka Red Tyrant)
185 BP

Mission BP - 50

Total Bonus Mission BP - 25
Obtain Essence of Rage (10BP)
Boss drop, yada yada yada.

Equipment Destroyed <5 times (15BP)

Total Oath BP - 110
Win with 4 or fewer players (35BP)
You'll probably run out of spears to stun him with about 5-8 bars in. When that happens, have one person drag the aggro and tank while the others chuck huge ice blocks at him to stun (or combo, depends). Otherwise, not very hard.

Win without secondary weapons (25BP)
This is slightly challenging due to the fact spears are the ideal way to stun, you don't even get a free 5-8 bars off like with 4 people. Just use the 4 player strat with 6 people and the bear will go down eventually.

Win without repairing armor (20BP)

Season of Macha (30BP)