Otherwise arguments that don't have prove to sustain themselves will fall under:
You are just talking out of your ass
"Pics or didn't happen".
Can someone close this thread, i feel that this leaves open the posibility of more baiting.
On a side note, i think i'm not the only one that have seen online games that due circumnstances should've been done ages ago (wether they are good or bad is anyone's opinion) yet they still survive, so your words about mabinogi is/will be dead in "current year" means nothing to me who had to deal with that for over a decade about another game.