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    Regarding Fiona's Heavy Stander/Guard

    So, how are other classes to be able to bypass them? Does attacking Fiona from the back when she's doing Heavy Stander/Guard/Counterattack do damage to her or do those skills cover her entirely with defense? Cause that would be rtrded.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neuenacht View Post
    So, how are other classes to be able to bypass them? Does attacking Fiona from the back when she's doing Heavy Stander/Guard/Counterattack do damage to her or do those skills cover her entirely with defense? Cause that would be rtrded.
    Spear her feet.

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    ^that and you could just mob her

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    Just keep attacking.
    Heavy Stander eats a ton of stamina.

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    yea i dont think fiona can do 3 consecutive heavy standers, she runs out of stamina. i also read somewhere that fiona's block on works for the front 180 degrees, but in my personal experience i've always successfully blocked attacks from my back without turning around... so i don't know about that...

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    Fiona's block works behind her as well, but not entirely. You'll take damage.

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    Heavy Stander doesn't allow Counterattack either.

    Guard does, but Smash overrides Guard, so...

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    The problem with Fiona's pvp is normal attacking her is risky. If she perfect guards it with no shield durability consume or even stamina consume she can counter attack immediately, interrupting your chain. Or if she chooses not to counter and she has r9+ guard she can basically ivy sweep immediately or even amaranth kick, and Fiona's normal slashes (from my normal observation) has amazing stun time in pvp.

    However low ranked fiona (less than rank 9 HS/Guard) eats up stamina fast. That and even blocking smash will knock Fiona Back (with small shield) and force her out of the stance temporarily (and if you can reach her before she can react, it's your victory).

    Some common strategies is to force Fiona (with small shield) back with a smash, then hit a spear at her which will force her on her knees. Or to keep attacking and hope that her stamina runs out. Her attacks also consume a lot of stamina too so if you can force her to keep missing you can put pressure on her. If her guard is low rank and so is her heavy stander (not r9+), it's easier to force her out of stamina.

    The problem is with Large Shields not knocking back, they basically can keep blocking a 3690 lann's attack and force him open but that's also its biggest weakness. If Lann can outlast Fiona during his 3690 hurricane and force the Fiona out of stamina he basically has the upper hand since Fiona won't be knock back by the smash attack when using a large shield.

    However from what I seen and heard, attacking Fiona with normal attacks is risky, especially if she lands that counter or even normal attack you'll fall to your knees to experience a severe beating.

    Staff Evie on the other hand can keep her distance and devastate Fiona if she has a small shield however Evie consumes stamina easily and if you run out, you either have to attack or run away. And attacking isn't recommended (even if Evie with a staff consumes no stamina) because Fiona can easily counter attack it. Mana shield is your best friend if you happen to get in a combo, but Fionas with high ranking combat mastery can easily deplete your shields and deliver a devastating kick/shield bash when all your shield. Also casting Firebolt is risky since not only it eats up stamina, if the Fiona has a high enough rank of standing endurance, she can block it immediately then retaliate.

    Scythes Evies on the other hand have to make use of their blink and know when to attack Fiona. However you have to read whether it is a heavy/small shield whether the Fiona will go to Guard or Heavy Stander.

    Overall it's a pretty balance PVP system, it's just that when you come against a tank that can easily crumble down your own defense, it's about exploiting their use of their equipment and having good reactions.

    Also personal skill plays into effect.

    Some Fionas are so clever they will go into the guard/heavy stander stance to force a Scythe Evie to teleport before rolling away then block their attack (since they believe they can chain their combos) and finish them off fast.

    Of course, since Fiona has a stamina issue, it's usually best to force her open.

    (oh forgot, even if you do get her open, you have to do it a few times. Some Fionas have too much defense, even when open)
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    Er, isn't it 3960 hurricane? 360x11 = 3960 for 11 spins, what would 3690 stand for?
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    360 <- x1
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    3600 <- x10
    3960 <- x11

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