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    Hailstorm has the potential to be a good skill when you have nearly everything, but it's not ever gonna be a great skill. You know because it can't crit for sh-.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Araria View Post
    It hits 1.5~3k on those types of mobs, 2~5k crits. Regardless, only demigod skills ignore protection for DAMAGE.
    Critical chance =/= damage
    Pics are proof. Conjecture is worthless.

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    HM or elite only please.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fart View Post
    Pics are proof. Conjecture is worthless.
    That's what I've been saying. (also try not to double post)

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    So would it be any different to use a White Wing Staff or a Trinity Staff for Hailstorm




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    Hailstorm is hax against peaca int ghasts

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    Quote Originally Posted by Armi View Post
    Hailstorm has the potential to be a good skill when you have nearly everything, but it's not ever gonna be a great skill. You know because it can't crit for sh-.
    Lrn2Enchant better.

    Quote Originally Posted by Cheerios View Post
    Hailstorm is hax against peaca int ghasts
    Personally I think Fire-Ice is better since it has more burst damage. It's safer if you're not aggro-locking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Justified View Post
    Personally I think Fire-Ice is better since it has more burst damage. It's safer if you're not aggro-locking.
    You can always ask someone with low rank ice spear to freeze barrier spikes, ghasts wont pass through since barriers will be indestructible for the freezing duration. Just not sure if you can shoot through the barriers with hailstorm

    Not really an issue now with the petrifying song too

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    Hail Storm isn't useless. It's too situational and it's too difficult to regularly pull off. Blaze can be pretty damn powerful as well, but it's not worth using most of the time because it has several factors which detract from its usefulness.

    There exist variables outside of sheer damage output.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Cheerios View Post
    You can always ask someone with low rank ice spear to freeze barrier spikes, ghasts wont pass through since barriers will be indestructible for the freezing duration. Just not sure if you can shoot through the barriers with hailstorm

    Not really an issue now with the petrifying song too
    Door-lure is a lot better than Barrier Spikes, but yes Hailstorm can go over it.
    In my experiences, Petrify is too unreliable to use on any day except Sunday. I was getting ~30% Success Rate.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kaeporo View Post
    Hail Storm isn't useless. It's too situational and it's too difficult to regularly pull off. Blaze can be pretty damn powerful as well, but it's not worth using most of the time because it has several factors which detract from its usefulness.

    There exist variables outside of sheer damage output.
    I find it useful anywhere with single/double aggro. It's better than Fireball because it boasts higher damage (less chance of mobs surviving and attacking you when it doesn't Crit), and much better than Thunder because it has higher damage as well as not requiring a tightly packed mob.

    And again, it's still the second best single-target DPS skill behind Elf Magnum. I don't think it's situationally disadvantaged at all.

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    I ran SCC HM and tried to post but the forums got funky so i went to bed.
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    Non critical +damage is better than critical damage in most cases anyways. I can get +70% Hailstorm damage for non crits. I have r4 Crit, so +120% damage on crit. The capped effect crit only allows you to crit 30% of the time at the most. The sum of damage at +70% damage and no crits at 10 hits is 17 times the dmaage of one normal hit. The sum of damage at 120% crit damage critting as much as possible for 10 hits is 13.6 the damage for one normal hit.

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