27/1/2012 beta weapon changelog

[Zack]

the part where you receive only 10% of damage

Well if you died right away then the dead ringer would be even more pointless than it already is. If anything the amount of sound it gives off when un-cloaking should be lowered. You can hear it from so far away o_o

[Yanm]

Well if you died right away then the dead ringer would be even more pointless than it already is. If anything the amount of sound it gives off when un-cloaking should be lowered. You can hear it from so far away o_o

There's an item set that removes the de-cloaking sound it makes.

[Oizen]

the part where you receive only 10% of damage

If you took full damage.

You'd die. and the watch would just make 2 dead bodies.

[Zid]

To be honest, I've never had problems dealing with Dead Ringer spies. Why does that need to be nerfed exactly?

People want actual confirmed kills than just still be wary of an enemy Spy still around them because they felt their attack was worthless.

[paladin]

Well if you died right away then the dead ringer would be even more pointless than it already is. If anything the amount of sound it gives off when un-cloaking should be lowered. You can hear it from so far away o_o

Remove that and that be a bit much
main reason deringers annoy people is people are too busy in battle to notice
remove the noise and well
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[BobYoMeowMeow]

People want actual confirmed kills than just still be wary of an enemy Spy still around them because they felt their attack was worthless.

dead ringers are annoying in 1v1 situation because they'll receive the dmg reduction + cloak and do some maneuvering to backstab you

[Yanm]

People want actual confirmed kills than just still be wary of an enemy Spy still around them because they felt their attack was worthless.

I see. Still, I don't think that warrants a nerf. I don't recall correctly, but can't you just look at the top right corner, see the name of the person you "supposedly" killed and press tab to see if they're dead or not? I think I did that last night and when I didn't see the name grayed out, I figured he wasn't dead. Regardless, I think the Dead Ringer does suit the spy, as they're. . .spies. People being wary and paranoid about one being around should be the norm in my opinion.

[Zid]

I see. Still, I don't think that warrants a nerf. I don't recall correctly, but can't you just look at the top right corner, see the name of the person you "supposedly" killed and press tab to see if they're dead or not? I think I did that last night and when I didn't see the name grayed out, I figured he wasn't dead. Regardless, I think the Dead Ringer does suit the spy, as they're. . .spies. People being wary and paranoid about one being around should be the norm in my opinion.

Tab score will falsely display the DR Spy as dead.

A better way than that is to keep track of your kill count to see if you actually killed the Spy or not.

[Yanm]

Tab score will falsely display the DR Spy as dead.

A better way than that is to keep track of your kill count to see if you actually killed the Spy or not.

Ah, all right. I guess people are just lazy to check and see if they actually killed one then? Or, they're probably in the heat of battle.

[Xemnas]

Just wanted to pop in unannounced and say that I've killed spies with the DR active using the Loch N load/stickies + teammates. It's 90% damage reduction but they still only have 125 hp max.(unless theyre using the kunai, which can make it easier or slightly harder)