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    I find protection so much better at end game. If I could just get 10-20% I'd be happy. Defense is wounderfull too, but mainly only at the start. Once your running Hard mode stuff, they just seem to ignore your defense, still hitting 100s+ on me. @,@ Even sometimes though my giants rank 5 defense... I wish ranking windbreaker would give us 5 more def and 5 more protection at rank 1. T,T Anyway, that's my opionon.

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    I haven't used Defense in who-knows-how-long; much less remember the last time it was actually on my hotkey bar. Ranked it because well...just because. I guess I can see it being somewhat useful in lower difficulty missions/dungeons where the mobs don't hit high. I'd rather have things geared towards doing more damage compared to being geared towards defense/protection - take them out before they have a chance to touch you.

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    Mana shield is obviously where it's at. Protection/def I never "try" for, and it's not worth trying for at all imo. Your def/prot should come with your other gear.

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    Protection/Defense is great for like weaker mobs like fighting Bandits and Hardmode missions. Having extra protection is nice to reduce injury and critical rates. It isn't too effective against very strong monsters from elite missions and some master bandits like other people said.

    I find that having ping just as important as defense/protection against a lot of scenarios.

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    how do you gain def/prot ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Splatulated View Post
    how do you gain def/prot ?
    with def ranks and equipment and enchants

    >EDIT: In trans I can get my protection to around 40~50 with clothes and accessories... and my def to around 60+ with armors or my def enchanted moon charms... it aint hard...
    especially since i wear a reactive RA uniform...


    And my mana shield is r8 with 450ish base int... but without my def and prot i'd probably still bite the dust when facing down HM golems and their spammy aggro rate...

    I've gotten into several arguments about def/prot vs mana shield... when I'm not even arguing Im just saying its useful, and even better in conjunction.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Splatulated View Post
    how do you gain def/prot ?
    Manliness.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Guyverunit4 View Post
    Manliness.
    not helpful .-. my character is female XD
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    Quote Originally Posted by Splatulated View Post
    not helpful .-. my character is female XD
    How else...?
    Enchants/armor/ranking defense/ranking other skills
    asianturtle

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    Protection is generally superior to Defense. It reduces more incoming damage than defense when your character receives over 100 damage in a single hit. It also reduces the opponent's critical hit rate, which can save you from some crippling blows.

    If you're genuinely concerned about improving your survivability, you may have to choose between the two. It's often not as simple as choosing between a single point of defense or protection. Some enchants and upgrades give both while some give more of one than the other.

    You can reduce incoming damage when using Wings of Eclipse to zero with enough defense but protection might just prevent a massive loss of skill experience by preventing critical hits.

    Realistically this game revolves around offensive play. If you're actually considering some defensive options you had better be a mage or your damage output will suffer greatly. Mages have comparatively few magic damage enchants available to them and often overkill opponents at a slower rate of attack than other characters.


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