Possible free rebirth system revision

[Maenad]

I posted this in another thread, but I feel like it's interesting enough for its own topic and less of a tweak than a change.

Anyways,
One of the main things making Mabinogi so difficult(Especially for free players) is the amount of time you need to spend to get anywhere in the game. You shouldn't need to wait 3 weeks in between each rank of a skill like Ice Spear, or Crash Shot, etc.

Basically, the revision I proposed would do the following: First, the free rebirthing at age 20 would be removed. However, it would be replaced by the ability to free rebirth when you've reached or passed a designated current level, starting one week from your last rebirth.
The designated current level would be decided from your character's age and its cumulative level at the last rebirth. For example, a brand new total level 1 player might have to reach current level 5 or current level 10 to earn his/her free rebirth, while a total level 3000 character might have to reach current level 80 or 100 or so. I figure that the current level required would begin to lower starting at age 18 and would be pretty much the same for all the ages before that.
For every level you get past that designated level, you might be able to free rebirth a little sooner than a week after your last rebirth(Though this might be set at a cap to prevent abuse of sorts, like a maximum of 2/3 rebirths in a single week, and wouldn't apply to paid rebirths).

[Claudia]

Doesn't sound like a bad idea to me.

[Twiliterror]

Considering how easy it is for some to level, it would be abused to hell and back again.

[Invisible]

Sounds like a wonderful idea.

Too bad it's not profitable.

[Maenad]

Considering how easy it is for some to level, it would be abused to hell and back again.

I find it funny that you call it abuse if a free player can earn a free rebirth through actual work in-game once a week, but the fact that there are people who paid rebirth each week and reach level 80/90/even 100 go unnoticed. Is it really so much different?

Honestly, avid free players that do as much work as, if not more than, paying players shouldn't be left in the dust because they can't afford to pay.

[Justified]

I find it funny that you call it abuse if a free player can earn a free rebirth through actual work in-game once a week, but the fact that there are people who paid rebirth each week and reach level 80/90/even 100 go unnoticed. Is it really so much different?

Honestly, avid free players that do as much work as, if not more than, paying players shouldn't be left in the dust because they can't afford to pay.

All these rebirth 'improvement' ideas (including the other threads) are completely stupid. Any half serious player would never, ever have to pay for rebirths again. Saying that it 'benefits the free players so they don't get left behind' is false, since a lot of these proposals would actually let people level even fast than now, widening the gap on the ones who still think level 100 is an accomplishment.


People always try to nerf the cash shop and, although pay2win isn't really good, there needs to be an actual incentive and benefit for spending real cash. It's what keeps the game going.

[Maenad]

All these rebirth 'improvement' ideas (including the other threads) are completely stupid. Any half serious player would never, ever have to pay for rebirths again. Saying that it 'benefits the free players so they don't get left behind' is false, since a lot of these proposals would actually let people level even fast than now, widening the gap on the ones who still think level 100 is an accomplishment.


People always try to nerf the cash shop and, although pay2win isn't really good, there needs to be an actual incentive and benefit for spending real cash. It's what keeps the game going.

The system would make it so serious players end up needing to get to much higher levels. You think it would be easy getting to level 150 in a week, every week? The more levels you have, the harder it gets. And it does benefit every player because the difficulty scales for them. The system would provide incentives to reach higher and higher levels each rebirth, something the current system doesn't offer.

Also, last I checked, honestly weren't that many rebirth improvement threads. Link me to multiple ones, a single one doesn't count as alot.

[Kenero]

If one were to go by Nexon's wallet then...

Why not make character cards a physical item? When you buy a character card, a character card "capsule" is placed in the item mall. You have to manually withdraw it and use it for it to appear in your account. The character card capsule can also be traded among players and it will even say if it is a special event character card with a bonus item.

Well, that is a good suggestion if you were Nexon and wanted to increase the sale of Character Cards by making it tradable.

[Maenad]

If one were to go by Nexon's wallet then...

Why not make character cards a physical item? When you buy a character card, a character card "capsule" is placed in the item mall. You have to manually withdraw it and use it for it to appear in your account. The character card capsule can also be traded among players and it will even say if it is a special event character card with a bonus item.

Well, that is a good suggestion if you were Nexon and wanted to increase the sale of Character Cards by making it tradable.

It would be fantastic if they decided to do something like that, but as you can see, they've avoided patching in pet trading for quite a while and it does pretty much the same thing, only with pets, and it doesn't rebirth.

[radionoise]

Or, you know, just let free rebirths happen every 2 weeks instead of 3 (paid rb can still be every 6 days) and let people be able to free rebirth at ANY age as long as they've waited the 2 weeks.