Last edited by Kingofrunes; 05-10-2013 at 03:32 PM.
From a staff's perspective, as someone who can see everyone's infractions, I have to say that letting them expire is just better. And the other staff didn't seem to disagree.
We have a lot of really good members who have "severe" infractions in their history right now. Some that were given out half a year ago. They've been pretty clean, or at least not making any huge trouble. There is simply no reason to have them sit at like 13 infractions forever because of this.
6 months is sufficient time to be active on the site without causing trouble for us to decide that you're good for a clean slate. Though I do see what you mean by the 24 infraction ban period being just as long as the infraction expiration. I didn't consider this when making the changes. We have a log book for members who get banned whether it be directly or via infractions, and moderators have the ability to make custom infractions (points, duration), so it shouldn't be a problem to create a 360 day 0 point tag to members who get banned for 6 months so that their infraction history lasts 180 days upon no longer being banned.
Last edited by Ashikoki; 05-10-2013 at 03:42 PM.
When I view a major infraction, it's something that a person has done that is severely wrong. Major infractions aren't handed out like candy, even the most offensive (relative to the individual) statements can be given minor infractions at times.
If ... someone does a major infraction, that's quite severe. 180 days is a slap on the wrist, unless ...
If the person in question is indeed engaging in good behavior.
Every member of Mabination must abide by the rules and regulations of this site, when a person breaks one of those rules - well then they have a penalty. The Staff is actually eschewing permanent bans, with the concept of these temporary ones. You are giving people many opportunites to clean their record, so to speak. If their actions were minor, then lo! After 90 days, that will be gone.
However, to think that something as major as severe flaming/insulting can be removed on the concept of "they aren't making any trouble now" ... that makes me feel a bit ill. It's borderline insulting to those members who have to deal with the cases that lead to major infractions.
You can't whisk away major infractions away with a concept like good behavior, if they are acting "good" - then they won't do something as serious ever again. The concept of time doesn't work either, because people can take extended hiatuses from Mabination without ever changing their behavior.
Immaturity/Youth? Bullshit. You agreed to the rules, follow them.
Well. I guess I just figured out the problem I have with all of this.
Right and if they do a minor offense they should receive a ban immediately right? Cause that's what would happen if the major infractions never expired.Originally Posted by Episkey
Unless you are talking about being at 26 points - but then I have to question about the severe infractions a person has done in order to reach that high.
They should be extremely careful of what they say then, if you are in that scenario. It's not like you are talking, you're typing. You can collect your words while typing; I myself had to delete about 3 paragraphs in total because of how fervorous I was getting.
And the warning expires over time too! Look at that.~
Perfect way to deal with slip-ups.
Yeah I had a whopping, single, 10 point infraction, which sent me from a completely clean slate to an instant 3 day ban a few months ago.
It was set to never expire.
I was sitting on the edge since then.