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    Quote Originally Posted by Xeno View Post
    The amount of salt is real. Mabinogi has been p2w since it came out and you had to pay money to buy rebirths. It literally launched as a p2w game straight up if you couldn't afford those. If you hate the game so much, honestly why even bother being a part of the community any longer, just to shit on every post/thread calling it p2w when it has always been this way? Has it gotten worse? Yes. Is this a shocking or unexpected thing? No, not at all. Mabinogi is pay 2 win. The best items often come out in Gachapon. This is not news, this has been the case since the game came out.

    I don't even know how we are having this discussion after fierce ribbons came out in gachapon years back, an item that is far better than any obtainable in-game and not even craftable at all, and now we're QQing about like 4 extra damage on some guns when people have capped stats an 1300+ max damage. And reforges, another item you CAN ONLY buy that is REQUIRED to have even close to relevant gear.

    This community, lol. You either enjoy the game and have fun playing it, or you are miserable and shit on the community and every post for everyone else who still enjoys it because it is p2w, when it always has been that way. I don't understand it personally. This game isn't a competition. No one is competing for world first kills or taking part in tournaments. There isn't even GvG anymore. You play because you enjoy it. That's it. No reason to shit on everyone else's parade because it doesn't meet your p2w standard.
    Going off with this, what are you exactly bringing by hopping on this "I HATE MABI AND ITS P2W SHIT" train? To me, it seems more like a mob mentality thing, no offense.

    Am I disappointed with this gacha? Yes. Do I think this was the worst thing to happen in P2W standards? It could be worse. Do I think NA will release Destruction Robe and Soluna Sword? Definitely not, mats maybe. I'm sorry if I sound rude, but to me all the people saying "oh, Soluna Sword and '64th floor accs' will be in the gacha" sound dumb, and honestly seems like a result of "UGH I HATE NEXON AND THEIR DUMBASS P2W GACHAS" train. Just think a little more please instead of rabbling. All the newly released weapons are designed to take longer to create (probably even harder than Dragon weapons atm), and dragon weapons haven't been introduced in the gacha yet. You guys are so quick to jump to silly conclusions, maybe you can tone down a little and think from a more logical perspective.

    As for "Why put effort into anything when I can just buy what you want?", I don't know man, have you seen Nexon release Bhafel Hunters before? What if I really wanted one? Pretty sure I can't just gacha that one through (and not anytime soon).

    I honestly have to echo Xeno. Whenever gachas are released, why are you posting complaints, especially for those of you that don't even play anymore?

    I'm not gonna say I like the idea of this gachapon, but for now I'm dealing with it. And y'all should learn to deal with it as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xeno View Post
    I don't even know how we are having this discussion after fierce ribbons came out in gachapon years back
    Hey yo, if I went and took a crap on your porch one day, and then a week later did it again... you wouldn't complain the second time? I mean I've already done it so why even bother to bring it up?

    But seriously, I'm more annoyed at how messed up this is in a technical sense. This is actually new as far as I know, giving items blacksmithing bonuses that aren't eligible for them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xeno View Post
    The amount of salt is real. Mabinogi has been p2w since it came out and you had to pay money to buy rebirths. It literally launched as a p2w game straight up if you couldn't afford those. If you hate the game so much, honestly why even bother being a part of the community any longer, just to shit on every post/thread calling it p2w when it has always been this way? Has it gotten worse? Yes. Is this a shocking or unexpected thing? No, not at all. Mabinogi is pay 2 win. The best items often come out in Gachapon. This is not news, this has been the case since the game came out.

    I don't even know how we are having this discussion after fierce ribbons came out in gachapon years back, an item that is far better than any obtainable in-game and not even craftable at all, and now we're QQing about like 4 extra damage on some guns when people have capped stats an 1300+ max damage. And reforges, another item you CAN ONLY buy that is REQUIRED to have even close to relevant gear.

    This community, lol. You either enjoy the game and have fun playing it, or you are miserable and shit on the community and every post for everyone else who still enjoys it because it is p2w, when it always has been that way. I don't understand it personally. This game isn't a competition. No one is competing for world first kills or taking part in tournaments. There isn't even GvG anymore. You play because you enjoy it. That's it. No reason to shit on everyone else's parade because it doesn't meet your p2w standard.
    To he honest, I think Mabinogi is way less pay2win than MapleStory, just to have a comparison to Nexon games.

    At least Mabinogi have done positive steps during the years by making their game less p2w. By having rebirths free and then making it weekly, free personal shops, Baltane Adv shop like features, Phantasm and Dungeon revamps giving fair amount of goodies and rares non-obtainable in a gachapon not to mention fair amounts of items can be bought with gold. The game is fair with or without p2w.

    Quote Originally Posted by ironwoman View Post
    ...oh, Soluna Sword and '64th floor accs' will be in the gacha" sound dumb, and honestly seems like a result of "UGH I HATE NEXON AND THEIR DUMBASS P2W GACHAS" train. Just think a little more please instead of rabbling. All the newly released weapons are designed to take longer to create (probably even harder than Dragon weapons atm), and dragon weapons haven't been introduced in the gacha yet. You guys are so quick to jump to silly conclusions, maybe you can tone down a little and think from a more logical perspective.

    As for "Why put effort into anything when I can just buy what you want?", I don't know man, have you seen Nexon release Bhafel Hunters before? What if I really wanted one? Pretty sure I can't just gacha that one through (and not anytime soon).

    I honestly have to echo Xeno. Whenever gachas are released, why are you posting complaints, especially for those of you that don't even play anymore?

    I'm not gonna say I like the idea of this gachapon, but for now I'm dealing with it. And y'all should learn to deal with it as well.

    Those people who were talking about "...Soluna Sword and 64th floor accs..." and "Why put effort into anything when I can just buy what you want?" seems to be making fun and sarcastic means of Nexon's cheap ways of craving for more money, not to mention there is an updated time extension for that gachapon which proves that perspective.

    The point on this thread though is that this gachapon doesn't even fit in for the game life skill goals due to those unrealistically high rolls in comparison to the ones produced by a player. I rather see some patterns/manuals or even materials thrown in there instead of freshly gacha'ed equipment.

    Why craftables instead of ready to sell equipments?
    Because it would make it up for the game so people can actually use Tailoring, Blacksmithing and such other production skills to craft items. Also, I wouldn't mind if they release some weapons once in awhile with r1 pre-reforge. I bought a Gloomy Sunday 1 week ago and I'm happy with them. But the main concern about this gachapon (and future ones) is that it exceed the possible rolls that even a player can craft is just rude for the dedicated crafting player base in the game instead of actually stimulating the use of production life skills as a source or high-end equipment supply, fashionogi goodies, etc.

    Even their Phantasm/Dungeon revamp content follows the example of the ideas I'm trying to state here by making some of the Succubus clothing being crafted by a player, more smithing items being craftable, and many more. This is not about pay2win train, its about making proper decisions to make the game content interesting.


    Quote Originally Posted by Rydian View Post
    "...This is actually new as far as I know, giving items blacksmithing bonuses that aren't eligible for them."
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    Okay I'm popping in real quick (will catch up on other stuff later) because I just found out something else. I heard that the gacha was also giving out a Black Dragon Knight's Giant Sword...

    ... that is also a staff. And it doesn't mention this, the only way people found out was when they could suddenly use Lightning Rod with it.

    I found somebody selling two (alongside other weapon gacha weapons) in housing on Ruairi, the visible difference being that this variety has 222 max instead of 220 (checked stats, A+ grade). Logged it to confirm it's the item ID of the for-some-reason-a-staff variety.

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    http://mabinogi.x10.mx/itemdb/?action=view&item=40804

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    64 9F = 40804.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rydian View Post
    Okay I'm popping in real quick (will catch up on other stuff later) because I just found out something else. I heard that the gacha was also giving out a Black Dragon Knight's Giant Sword...

    ... that is also a staff. And it doesn't mention this, the only way people found out was when they could suddenly use Lightning Rod with it.
    Wow they actually implemented it, cool.

    This is the actual sword that Ruairi uses in Saga i'm pretty sure, someone should run Saga 6 and compare. But he is able to use Shockwave in one of his RPs in Saga 1 Ep 6.
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