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Sloth wrote on 2010-11-01 22:07
Quote from Shirayuki;200745:
And people that prefer a party full of DPS, and people that know they can handle a run without getting hit, and people who prefer not to waste bandwidth on a character that'll do nothing but make chunk out half a bar of a bosses HP before it dies.
I barely get hit playing Evie. The only thing I'm raging about really is people have not really tried Evie combos a lot like I mentioned. People think Evie can just spam magic bolts. Which you can only do in basically Paladin form :v
Well Fionas+Lanns can get hurt really bad so if there is no Staff Evie then they might be screwed a bit. I think Evies can be used as a Support and Attack
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Shirayuki wrote on 2010-11-01 22:10
Quote from Randomcheese;200748:
I barely get hit playing Evie. The only thing I'm raging about really is people have not really tried Evie combos a lot like I mentioned. People think Evie can just spam magic bolts. Which you can only do in basically Paladin form :v
Well Fionas+Lanns can get hurt really bad so if there is no Staff Evie then they might be screwed a bit. I think Evies can be used as a Support and Attack
I meant people who don't need the heal of Evy, which makes her DPS even more crappy wasting 50 stam for only 160~? HP restored. And how are your combos really going to change the DPS of Evy? Overall, spamming 5 Arrows at once instead of doing 3+smash and 2 bolts continuously will probably be the same if not surpassing the DPS of the latter.
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Hiccup wrote on 2010-11-01 22:12
Lann > Fiona > Evie as far as DPS goes, its as simple as that. Nothings gonna change it.
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Sloth wrote on 2010-11-01 22:14
Quote from Shirayuki;200751:
I meant people who don't need the heal of Evy, which makes her DPS even more crappy wasting 50 stam for only 160~? HP restored. And how are your combos really going to change the DPS of Evy? Overall, spamming 5 Arrows at once instead of doing 3+smash and 2 bolts continuously will probably be the same if not surpassing the DPS of the latter.
I never mentioned my Combos. People should create there own. That is rF healing most people should have been smart enough to raise it to AT least rE for like 360hp I think. I can use 3~4 heals before my stamina runs out which is almost a full bar of a Fiona and Lann HP Bar which is pretty good if you ask me.
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Shirayuki wrote on 2010-11-01 22:19
Quote from Randomcheese;200756:
I never mentioned my Combos. People should create there own. That is rF healing most people should have been smart enough to raise it to AT least rE for like 360hp I think. I can use 3~4 heals before my stamina runs out which is almost a full bar of a Fiona and Lann HP Bar which is pretty good if you ask me.
You're not denying that Evy damage is terrible, and further proving that she is just support, which isn't really needed when party space is more valuable when filled with DPS and tank characters.
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Hiccup wrote on 2010-11-01 22:22
Evies are good for raids, and hard bosses but we dont have any of those
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Sloth wrote on 2010-11-01 22:28
Quote from Shirayuki;200760:
You're not denying that Evy damage is terrible, and further proving that she is just support, which isn't really needed when party space is more valuable when filled with DPS and tank characters.
This sums up my opinion about Evie
[video=youtube;tbe7HtjEvvc]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tbe7HtjEvvc[/video]
Edit: Description: Map : Recluse(Raid), Boss : Giant-spider
#When you play this battle alone gives a lot of experience point,
Is usually a battle to level up!
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Shirayuki wrote on 2010-11-01 22:33
Quote from Randomcheese;200769:
This sums up my opinion about Evie
[video=youtube;tbe7HtjEvvc]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tbe7HtjEvvc[/video]
Edit: Description: Map : Recluse(Raid), Boss : Giant-spider
#When you play this battle alone gives a lot of experience point,
Is usually a battle to level up!
[video=youtube;9CF20tcvn7g]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9CF20tcvn7g[/video]
A Fiona of equal or lower level soloing on Hard mode. Twice as fast, taking little damage, being hit only once.
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Sloth wrote on 2010-11-01 22:35
Quote from Shirayuki;200773:
[video=youtube;9CF20tcvn7g]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9CF20tcvn7g[/video]
A Fiona of equal or lower level soloing on Hard mode. Twice as fast, taking no damage.
I'm not saying anything ABOUT DPS
My video proves Evies are good at soloing at raid bosses I don't give a sh** right now about DPS from what I see people are doubting Evie in soloing and for partying just look at the video I posted its the last video on the guide on the first page.
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Tablo wrote on 2010-11-01 22:40
Quote from Randomcheese;200774:
I'm not saying anything ABOUT DPS
My video proves Evies are good at soloing at raid bosses I don't give a sh** right now about DPS from what I see people are doubting Evie in soloing and for partying just look at the video I posted its the last video on the guide on the first page.
you're confusing me here. No one said that it will be impossible for staff-evies to solo missions (add in golems). When I explain the staff-evies are inferior to the other characters/scythe-evies, I am talking in terms of efficiency, hence DPS.
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Andy-Buddy wrote on 2010-11-01 22:42
Evie can solo, just takes long as hell and is very dangerous.
If she gets hit more than two times by a boss, her HP is exposed. With her minimal defense, that HP will be down in another two hits.
Good Evies are a blessing, but mostly she can't aggressively fight, she's viable only from a distance, if she can keep a distance.
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Sloth wrote on 2010-11-01 22:44
Quote from Tablo;200778:
you're confusing me here. No one said that it will be impossible for staff-evies to solo missions. When I explain the staff-evies are inferior to the other characters/scythe-evies, I am talking in terms of efficiency, hence DPS.
Your add in golems isn't necessary golems aren't needed to solo for Evies. I'm not talking about DPS. I'm trying to say not all staff-evies are support
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Shirayuki wrote on 2010-11-01 22:45
Quote from Randomcheese;200774:
I'm not saying anything ABOUT DPS
My video proves Evies are good at soloing at raid bosses I don't give a sh** right now about DPS from what I see people are doubting Evie in soloing and for partying just look at the video I posted its the last video on the guide on the first page.
Okay, show me a solo of Red Tyrant then with a Staff Evy. She has no way of dodging and the only reason she got anywhere with Giant Spider was because its probably the slowest hitting boss ever. I don't see how Staff Evy is viable for soloing at all still.
And what does that other video prove? That trans is OP? kbyenao >_>
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Sloth wrote on 2010-11-01 22:47
Quote from Tablo;200778:
No one said that it will be impossible for staff-evies to solo missions
Quote from Shirayuki;200783:
Okay, show me a solo of Red Tyrant then with a Staff Evy. She has no way of dodging and the only reason she got anywhere with Giant Spider was because its probably the slowest hitting boss ever. I don't see how Staff Evy is viable for soloing at all still.
And what does that other video prove? That trans is OP? kbyenao >_>
The Panda appears to disagree with what you said
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Shirayuki wrote on 2010-11-01 22:49
Quote from Randomcheese;200786:
The Panda appears to disagree with what you said
Either way, both of us agree that staff Evy DPS sucks, and
you were the one who brought up solo, hence why I am talking about how bad of a solo Evy will be.