Help with Alchemical Enchanting

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Omegatronic wrote on 2010-10-13 16:09

Since I ranked my water cannon to rA to get frozen blast, I have been considering taking WC to r1. Part of my considerations involved maximizing my water damage with enchants and upgrades. But ended up with a few questions.

I started with the easy stuff:

r1 Alchemy Mastery-- 45% damage
Title : Royal Alchemist -- +15 water damage
Body: Soggy -- +27 water damage (not going to overwrite the Academic)
Feet: Flooded -- +12 water damage
accessories: Water Drop (x2)-- +5 water damage (x2)
Head: Water drop-- +5 water damage
Hands: Water drop-- +5 water damage
Cylinder: Moist Water Drop Water Cylinder w/upgrades -- +27 (at r1 WC) + 5 + 7 (current upgrades on Mari), 15% water damage
Shield: Water drop-- +5

+118 water damage, 15% water damage, 45% alchemy damage.

Question 1: Does +118 water damage add to minimum and max? Single charge: 119~136 + 118 = 237~254?
Question 2: When stacking charges, is the bonus added once or for each charge? (Three charges: 3x + 118 or 3(x +118)?)
Question 3: How do those % damage work? Are they multipliers for the base damage or Base + enchant damage? Are they additive (x + .45x + .15x) or multiplicative (1.45*1.15*x)?

Now, I have 5 prefixes available for enchants, but I have been told that regular damage enchants do not work the same as Water Damage enchants. Does anyone have any idea how or if they work?
Cryosite wrote on 2010-10-13 17:07

+damage enchants (like fox) add damage once per skill use, unlike alchemical damage enchants (like water drop) that add per charge. I don't know the other specifics.
Justified wrote on 2010-10-13 17:36

^ correct for damage bonus.
I'm assuming it's both Min and Max, though not many people care about Min so I can't say for sure.

For percents, it's multiplicative. Like how Smash Critical is ( x 5 x 2.5 ), and not ( + 4 + 1.5 ).
Zid wrote on 2010-10-13 18:09

1. Yes

2. If it's "Water Alchemic" bonus, then per charge. If not, it's per use.

3. Multiplicative

4. I think it's:

(Skill damage + Alchemic damage bonus) * (Number of charges) * (Bonus from 5 charges) + (Regular damage bonus)
Omegatronic wrote on 2010-10-13 20:25

Thank you all for the quick responses. All my questions were answered nicely.