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Jando wrote on 2010-11-01 01:22
Well I am about to reach 1000 total and have the 4 main Melee skills and the 3 main Range skills at r1 and I'm wondering what do I do next?
Smash, Windmill, Combat Mastery, Critical Hit, Ranged Attack, Magnum Shot, Arrow revolver are all r1 and I've to the point where I have no idea what to get to r1 next. I thought of getting Crash shot to r1 which would take 7 weeks of weekly rbing which is what I do normally and I was thinking on doing that.
Right now I get around 55/15 a level but once I hit the 1k total I could 60/20. Crash Shot would improve rafting for me which is what I would like and give me more power for Shadow Cast City. As for other skills I want to get:
defense to r1, currently rC
refine to r1, currently r2 with fails completed
Prod mastery to r1, currently r5
Carpentry to r1, currently rB
Haven't even started weaving...
As for base stats at level 55 I have 150 str and 190 dex.
So what I would like is advice on what to do next and tips on how to do Shadow Cast City and avoiding death, which I can't.
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Ailyene wrote on 2010-11-01 01:26
Refine.
If you're using range as your main attack for shadow cast city, keep a pet out to distract the monster if you miss. If you're using melee, I need to know what you're doing that's causing deaths apart from lag.
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Saffaron123 wrote on 2010-11-01 01:30
Not to be rude but, 55/15 is terrible at your level. I'm around the same as you and I'm doing 70/20. I don't use weekly rebirths.
If you die due to lag during SCC, try Tailteann Missions instead. They work wonders for laggers.
Although your skills are decent.
As for what to rank...
Refining : Rank 1
Production Mastery : Rank 1
Weaving : Rank 1 *
Charge : Rank 6 **
Carpentry : Rank 1 ***
After those, move on to Final Hit or Crash Shot. Then if your getting tired at Combat, try Magic or Alchemy.
Notes -
* Not mandatory if you don't want to. Recommended if your leaning towards more dex. Also recommend to do Support Shot for more Dex.
** Get this to Rank 6 only if your going to enchant Fleet on to Raven Boots. (8/4 Recommended)
*** Not mandatory if you don't want to. Recommended if your leaning towards more str. Also recommended to do Final Hit.
The skills listed are not in order. This is all my own opinion. Feel free to disagree.
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Jando wrote on 2010-11-01 01:41
55/15 is just the min per week. This rb I'm going to do 62/15 so I can get enough ap for r1 smash. For exp I'm currently doing Their Method but I would like to get more which SCC would. The lag doesn't kill me, its the monsters hacking and getting 3 critical hits in a row and killing me. I'm thinking Crash Shot cause I do want something that can AoE for me at a distances but then again my Range isn't that strong.
I'll get refine and Prod Mastery to r1 then I might work on defense for a little bit then get into Crash Shot.
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Saffaron123 wrote on 2010-11-01 01:55
I thought you stated that you already have Rank 1 Smash? Or was that just because your close to it and to lazy to update it? o3o
Their Method is also decent for EXP which you're already doing.
As for dying in SCC, try getting armor and upgrade it. Preferably 6/4 and Passive Defense. If not, go with Light Melka 6/4.
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Jando wrote on 2010-11-01 02:01
Quote from Saffaron123;200117:
I thought you stated that you already have Rank 1 Smash? Or was that just because your close to it and to lazy to update it? o3o
Their Method is also decent for EXP which you're already doing.
As for dying in SCC, try getting armor and upgrade it. Preferably 6/4 and Passive Defense. If not, go with Light Melka 6/4.
I'm planning what to do after I've maxed the 4 main melee skills and the 3 main ranged skills which sill happen very soon. As for armor I do have a 6/4 Valencia but I want to get some enchants onto it before I upgrade it.
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Richard wrote on 2010-11-01 02:35
Finish refining for that 10 DEX and production mastery for stamina. Smashmill and AR are huge stamina drainers! From there, you should do final hit or crash shot depending on if you use melee or ranged more. Probably do crash shot, since final hit is more for STR in my opinion. If you feel like doing some defence, do it before those two huge AP eaters. I really wanted to do defence, since I just maxed final hit, but I decided to do magnum shot.
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newpants wrote on 2010-11-01 06:49
with 222 broads, you should be able to just ohko wm most regular monsters except maybe fighters in scc int, making everything much less dangerous. in higher difficulties, since the majority of them is just single aggro, you can pretty much wm spam any of the regular mobs till they're all dead. for any multi-aggro archers, a pet can handle it.
you shouldn't really be getting hit all that often if at all. if you are, you're either lagging too much or not paying enough attention. even if you get hit, you have r1 cm, so you really should have enough hp to tank a combo and be able to load windmill or defense or whatever and retaliate. so really, just practice on int if you're trying to learn how to scc effectively.
as for what to rank... i wouldn't invest totally into crash shot until you have more dex, at least like 250. otherwise imo it's more of a waste of time since you can just windmill for the general same effect.
i'd get handicraft capped. it's pretty easy and cheap to do ap/wood board wise. also might as well before finishing off production mastery since failing can be pretty useful for that skill. there's also is weaving, but weaving is weaving. a slow and long grind.
anyways, if you want to be more effective at clearing missions sooner, just focus on either str or dex, not both at the same time. do that until you're feeling good with the time you take doing a sm/dungeon/whatever and then feel free to hybridize more/do whatever
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Jando wrote on 2010-11-01 13:49
I have 2 222 r1 Crafted Goddess Caliburn Broadswords and I'm using a 190 LLB. But these darn Archers. How do avoid from being multiaggro'd from them since 1 magnum is like a ohko for me. Well in Advance SCC.
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pataterose wrote on 2010-11-01 15:57
considering your dex is high enough to weild anything as a human, i suggest choosing either melee or range, and then go all into that "class" until its practically maxed out. this will allow much more efficiency in training and allow greater damage faster.
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radionoise wrote on 2010-11-01 16:15
If you're having issues with archers in SCC, just use a pet with continuous attack AI.
Archers always aggro first, and only two at a time ever do, so you can just stick a pet to one while you charge/smash the other. Archers in SCC do not have any melee capabilities, so they will be incapacitated by your pets indefinitely.
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Jando wrote on 2010-11-01 16:38
Quote from radionoise;200511:
If you're having issues with archers in SCC, just use a pet with continuous attack AI.
Archers always aggro first, and only two at a time ever do, so you can just stick a pet to one while you charge/smash the other. Archers in SCC do not have any melee capabilities, so they will be incapacitated by your pets indefinitely.
What I'm finding best with a group of archers is to ride in with a mount into the centre, wm the group which should kill most of them and have the pet deal with any alive ones while I deal with the others. In mixed spawns its the same deal. WM > pet to Archer.
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radionoise wrote on 2010-11-01 21:22
Quote from Jando;200544:
What I'm finding best with a group of archers is to ride in with a mount into the centre, wm the group which should kill most of them and have the pet deal with any alive ones while I deal with the others. In mixed spawns its the same deal. WM > pet to Archer.
If you already have an effective method to deal with the archer spawns, then I don't see why you'd have to worry about it.
You can just work on making your Windmill hit higher if it's your primary skill for clearing the mission timely.
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Jando wrote on 2010-11-02 02:27
Yea thanks. I think I will be alright for Melee right now, just need to work on carpentry and thats it. Then get sword mastery when g13 comes out. I'll get Refine and Prod. Mastery to r1 then work on Crash Shot and some other skills maybe at the same time. Thanks for the help.
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jking012 wrote on 2010-11-02 02:40
refine should have been done b4 the other high cper's but a scarecrow set will help well with a -dex title invest into that... get rank 2 as a goal (with all fails completeted). Grabbing defense to rank 1 is HIGHLY beneficial in hard missions because those suckers will down you in 1 melee combo... or 1 mag will CRUSH you (mag crit on hard Shadow cast city will leave you with about 10% max hp of original from full hp if ur rank 1 def and have 320 max hp... i aint lying... )
crash shot... is great.. will become elf and humans most used skill later on.
stamina + dex*
- production mastery
HP*
-first aid
-rest
and thats all advice i care to give atm... try wiki when its up.... do some research :P ask ingame friends.. if you have any ~chuckle~ i keed i keed :/