Evie: The Battle Scythe

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TLCBonaparte wrote on 2011-11-02 04:01

Quote from TA;645537:
Well, I got on today for a couple minutes. Demon Splitter seems completely useless and just for fun like all the other 1 smash attacks. Possibly faster vs very low level mobs.

Blade Shift seems pretty useful. A bit high on stamina, so probably only really optimal if you have your insane reaper up.

Mana Pistol... when I played, it was worthless. A waste of both AP and in-game gold.

Blade shift's damage is pretty low. So far I haven't found a good way to use it other than killing those ramming mobs.
Overblood wrote on 2011-11-02 09:25

Mana Pistol is a pretty useful distraction. (When it doesn't decide to move around by itself, anyway.)
TLCBonaparte wrote on 2011-11-02 12:32

Quote from Overblood;646050:
Mana Pistol is a pretty useful distraction. (When it doesn't decide to move around by itself, anyway.)

I would get it anyway, it's another thing to shoot at boss.
TA wrote on 2011-11-08 14:47

[SIZE="4"]Update[/SIZE]
11/08/2011
Added detailed information to Dark Knight Transformation.
Added Battle Scythe: Demon Splitter.
Added Battle Scythe: Blade Shift.
Added Alchemy: Mana Pistol.
Added information to Light Armor Proficiency.
Added information to Cloth Armor Proficiency.
Added information to Weight Endurance.
Added information to Dark Knight / Paladin Transformation.

Since I'm taking some time off from the forum and I'm playing Vindictus again, I have some time to update my guide. Yeah, I know, it sounds kind of silly updating my guide on the forum when I'm not using the forum, but if this is all I'm doing then it still achieves my desired effect. So, no worries.

With that said... I believe this update brings my Scythe Evie guide up to date. So, now I can return to my break.
RebeccaBlack wrote on 2011-11-08 15:25

Quote from TA;645537:
Mana Pistol... when I played, it was worthless. A waste of both AP and in-game gold.

Completely disagree. It does a pretty good amount of damage in the time it's up for being something you just set down. It also serves as a minor distraction and has a strange tendency to cause stuns/knockdowns, at least from personal experience. Even when you can't attack the boss because it won't let up, the mana pistol will keep going.

As for ingame gold... guess that just comes down to personal opinion. It's a bit under 1K per pistol. A few battles make 100K+ on average and take under 10 minutes even for the slower/lower stat characters, so that'll get you a hundred. In my opinion it's worth it.

If you compare it to a golem when golems are usable, then sure, it's not as good of a distraction. But if you take it as extra damage and a bit of a utility thing, it's really not so bad. After all, it's not like you can't use both.
TLCBonaparte wrote on 2011-11-08 18:34

Quote from RebeccaBlack;653777:
Completely disagree. It does a pretty good amount of damage in the time it's up for being something you just set down. It also serves as a minor distraction and has a strange tendency to cause stuns/knockdowns, at least from personal experience. Even when you can't attack the boss because it won't let up, the mana pistol will keep going.

As for ingame gold... guess that just comes down to personal opinion. It's a bit under 1K per pistol. A few battles make 100K+ on average and take under 10 minutes even for the slower/lower stat characters, so that'll get you a hundred. In my opinion it's worth it.

If you compare it to a golem when golems are usable, then sure, it's not as good of a distraction. But if you take it as extra damage and a bit of a utility thing, it's really not so bad. After all, it's not like you can't use both.

Another good thing is the fast summon speed. If you are soloing and you need something to stall enemy, mana pistol is much better than golem (Especially for me with my F keys malfunctioning I can't do the disappear, get up trick), so set up mana pistol then summon golem for tanking is crucial for me.
Sayoko wrote on 2011-11-09 04:03

Mana Pistol pretty much outclasses golem in every way except when transporting balista bolts.
RebeccaBlack wrote on 2011-11-09 11:28

Quote from Sayoko;654338:
Mana Pistol pretty much outclasses golem in every way except when transporting balista bolts.

Actually a golem is way better at attracting attention. A mana pistol can sit around firing all day and almost never seem to capture anything's attention, but when a golem starts hitting away at a boss, the boss will almost instantly turn around and fight back. Attracting attention means you get to do more damage while the boss pretty much stands there.

So all in all they both have their ups and downs. It's not really fair to compare them when they're both good for different reasons and both should be used.
grandpajelly wrote on 2011-11-09 18:04

Came to add that most other classes (fiona,lann,karok) do not want a golem because they can't attack through them well and they can't telegraph attacks through a bunch of pillars. Mana pistol slows down the boss, but it should not be used in most raids and circumstances....it's just not needed.
TA wrote on 2011-11-10 01:37

Quote from grandpajelly;654869:
Came to add that most other classes (fiona,lann,karok) do not want a golem because they can't attack through them well and they can't telegraph attacks through a bunch of pillars. Mana pistol slows down the boss, but it should not be used in most raids and circumstances....it's just not needed.

"Cons: Body blocks teammates and yourself (which can make it especially annoying for melee characters either getting trapped or moved away from a boss, making them miss their smashes and et cetera),"

Add, you say?
:lol:
brooklynlord wrote on 2012-01-08 04:28

I want to add a few points to this guide...
It's more about game mechanics and etc.
first:

Stand snap vs running snap:

Stand snap = 15 stam
Running snap = 45 stam

They both activate at about the same time but running snap uses far more stam.

Hop cancel:

Hop after almost everything to cancel animations that evie isn't doing anything.

Other tricks like this and that will help you boost your DPS and etc.
grandpajelly wrote on 2012-01-08 05:22

Quote from brooklynlord;727079:
I want to add a few points to this guide...
It's more about game mechanics and etc.
first:

Stand snap vs running snap:

Stand snap = 15 stam
Running snap = 45 stam

They both activate at about the same time but running snap uses far more stam.

You would be loosing dps by doing standing snaps though.

I'll add something: I've never been able to press spacebar fast enough so that the beginning of blink wasn't a hop at all and was just full on invincibility frames. So always keep in mind that the timing for slip dash and blocking =/= the timing for blink.

Also, there are invincibility frames when you get out of blink and stand there but can't move. I think that was added as a ninja patch many episodes ago, but either way that's there and it saves my life constantly!

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