Alternatives for levels?

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Sebbies wrote on 2010-11-07 05:30

I've mainly been spamming Their Method int for levels, but recently hit total 370 and was wondering if any new doors have opened. I can normally finish each Their Method int run in ~5 minutes, 4 if in trans, and ~10-12 minutes for Their Method adv. Any suggestions, or would this be the best way to level right now? As for skills... there's a few in my signature to give you an idea of where I'm at.
radionoise wrote on 2010-11-07 05:41

Shadow Cast City Adv. if you can run it in ~10 minutes should be decent exp for you, same as Rundal Normal HM if you can one hit smash most of the skeletons in there. Enchanting yourself with full ice elementals will make it easier to kill mobs in both places, but at the same time you will receive a lot more damage from them.

Their Method Adv. is ok, but it's also incredibly boring.
Ailyene wrote on 2010-11-07 10:36

I also find The Other Alchemists a nice shadow mission to run with a friend or two. Adv gives 95k exp at the end and it shouldn't be too hard for you if you run it with two or three other people. As for soloing, well, Their Method really is the safest as it's impossible to die unless you do something stupid like run too close to a zombie or you lag, since it's a lot easier to die in Shadow Cast City. Also can someone at level 370 really run SSC adv in 10 minutes and finish it solo? o_O (as in kill the doppleganger as well) Or do you mean just stop at the doppleganger?
Jando wrote on 2010-11-07 10:58

Their Method ADV can net you around 72k exp per mission and is probably the least demanding SM out there. Its nets you exp, money and just plain awesomeness but at the cost of boringness. Good ways to fix this is to watch movies, tv shows, tv in general to cure this boredom.

I advice to if you are poor get a giant set and upgrade some glads with some sexy 230/270-2 UG paths depending on your current cm rank, dex and balance. 230 for low balance/no balance and 270-2 for high balance. Apart from that just try and get those Their Methods to like 5-10 mins on average and you will be ranking in the exp and gold.

I get around 10k - 15k gold per run not counting huge lucky finishes and takes me like 42 Their methods to get to level 50 each rb. But now I do HM Their Method and I have to you tell you know, the exp and gold is much sexier.

Don't forget that in adv and HM their method theres a chance of getting a burgundy bear ES which can net you up to 1m+. From personal experiences I've sold a Burgundy Bear Raven 2handed sword with 100% prof for 1.2 and a Burgundy Bear Mace and Bastard Sword for 800k ea. All thanks to their method. Whats even greater is that you only have to use sp pots. Which is just win win win win win.

But when I'm bored of that or nothing is on TV I usually spam SCC with some randoms in ch 4 Mari Alter.
Ailyene wrote on 2010-11-07 11:10

Quote from Jando;207125:
I get around 10k - 15k gold per run not counting huge lucky finishes and takes me like 42 Their methods to get to level 50 each rb. But now I do HM Their Method and I have to you tell you know, the exp and gold is much sexier.

42?! Oh man! I can barely stand just doing 5...although they're all in a row.

Usually this is what happens to me every week:
1) Raft till level 15 exploration and get to level 24 or so just by rafting.
2) Do a few random SMs at adv or hard level with friends and get to 40-45.
3) Tara banquet.
4) Finish off with Their Method spam for the last few levels to 50.

Or if people tend to rebirth right after they age up on Saturdays, the Tara banquet comes first or second.
Jando wrote on 2010-11-07 11:28

Quote from Ailyene;207131:
42?! Oh man! I can barely stand just doing 5...although they're all in a row.

Usually this is what happens to me every week:
1) Raft till level 15 exploration and get to level 24 or so just by rafting.
2) Do a few random SMs at adv or hard level with friends and get to 40-45.
3) Tara banquet.
4) Finish off with Their Method spam for the last few levels to 50.

Or if people tend to rebirth right after they age up on Saturdays, the Tara banquet comes first or second.

I only have to do 6 Their Methods a day which on adv takes me 6-10mins which is 42-60mins a day. I haven't played around with HM Their Method yet but if my calculations are correct:
Mission Reward: 70,000 exp
Female Zombies (x22): 1120 (+105)
(1120 x 22) + (105 x 22) = 24640 + 2310
Male Zombies (x22): 1190 (+105)
(1190 x 22 ) + (105 x 22) = 26180 + 2310
= 50820 (x1, x2 or x4 depending on exp modifier) + 4620 = 55440 + 70000 = 125440

EXP PER THEIR METHOD HM: 125,440
Average time: 15mins
Average gold: 15k
Exp to level 40: 1,230,800
No. of Their methods = 1,230,800 / 125,440 = 10
Time: 150 mins / 2.5 hours
Gold: 150k
Exp to level 50: 2,958,400
No. of Their methods = 2,958,400 / 125,440 = 24
Time: 360 mins / 6 hours
Gold: 360k gold
Exp to level 60: 5,582,300
No. of Their methods = 5,582,300 / 125,440 = 45
Time: 675 mins / 11.25 hours
Gold: 675k gold

Their Method <3
radionoise wrote on 2010-11-07 16:27

Quote from Ailyene;207113:
Also can someone at level 370 really run SSC adv in 10 minutes and finish it solo? o_O (as in kill the doppleganger as well) Or do you mean just stop at the doppleganger?

If you have enough damage and know the AI, it is possible to run ADV. timely with melee around that level range. As for the doppleganger... it's the easiest part of the mission, I think. You can command a pet to attack the dopple and make it summon its clones, then you just lure them with range and kill them safely. As for the boss itself, by spamming windmill and smash it will never be able to harm you, as windmill makes it go stupid, lol.
Ailyene wrote on 2010-11-07 21:32

Hm, well I've never done the doppleganger on adv before, but I sure don't find it easy on hard. Even through smashmill, it still sometimes hits me and then I still have to kill them all and it takes time. It takes a lot longer to kill the doppleganger than a group of gold bone whatevers for sure (for me).
radionoise wrote on 2010-11-07 22:50

Quote from Ailyene;207501:
Hm, well I've never done the doppleganger on adv before, but I sure don't find it easy on hard. Even through smashmill, it still sometimes hits me and then I still have to kill them all and it takes time. It takes a lot longer to kill the doppleganger than a group of gold bone whatevers for sure (for me).

I found out that as long as you manage to execute windmill as soon as you hear its cylinder's clicking sound, you'll be fine. For hardmode I just use a long range ELB + crash shot to take care of the clones safely, and then for dealing with the dopple itself I can just use one elf magnum and two regular ranged attacks in-between windmills... I never get hit unless there's a lag spike, and it's certainly a lot safer than lancers/fighters who can OHKO me if I miss a single shot.
Jando wrote on 2010-11-08 00:22

Droppleganger is really a pushover once the clones are gone. WM spam with a pet continously attacking works great. You can swap millspam with smashwill to make it go much quicker. Don't resort to just wm spam since if you take to long it will spawn more clones.
Ailyene wrote on 2010-11-08 02:20

Quote from radionoise;207702:
I found out that as long as you manage to execute windmill as soon as you hear its cylinder's clicking sound, you'll be fine. For hardmode I just use a long range ELB + crash shot to take care of the clones safely, and then for dealing with the dopple itself I can just use one elf magnum and two regular ranged attacks in-between windmills... I never get hit unless there's a lag spike, and it's certainly a lot safer than lancers/fighters who can OHKO me if I miss a single shot.

Oooh. Huh, I always play with sound off. Maybe I'll try it next time I go then. And yeah, dopple is usually easy without clones, but it's the clones that take more time since they run all over the place, multiaggro, N+1, etc.
radionoise wrote on 2010-11-08 02:42

Quote from Ailyene;208128:
Oooh. Huh, I always play with sound off. Maybe I'll try it next time I go then. And yeah, dopple is usually easy without clones, but it's the clones that take more time since they run all over the place, multiaggro, N+1, etc.

Yeah, if you're a human the clones might be more annoying... they dual wield and hit pretty hard. As an elf you only have to worry about shooting faster than them if they survive your wm/cs, and even then, they are fairly terrible rangers. But yeah, as long as you execute wm before or as soon as you hear the cylinder's clicking there should be nothing to worry about when it comes to the lone dopple.
jking012 wrote on 2010-11-08 11:25

8 shadow cast city hard get me to about lvl 50 ^^ about 14-17 mins each run
Zid wrote on 2010-11-08 21:42

SCC is just plain harder than "Their Method" as a Melee Human than it is for a Ranged Elf. >w<

That being said, it's a lot more fun. Efficiently clearing Shadow Cast City Advanced repeatedly to lvl 50+ in under 8 minutes as a Melee Human requires practice and is more risky than Ranging it through in under the same time period, since Windmill is a must there, and thus one hit at low HP = dead.