A little Stamina abuse.

• Phunkie wrote on 2010-11-19 03:03

  Quote from abc33kr;220942:

  Please, phunkie lock and delete this thread. I don't mind some people using it, but once this method becomes googleable then it becomes a problem.
  
  
  *edit1: from the look of it, this isn't too late to delete this thread. All of these posters are trustworthy and no problem will arise if they keep this to themselves.
  The maximum stam u can gain out of this is 240. not 220.

  
  
  Sounds good!
• abc33kr wrote on 2010-11-19 03:05
  Just to clarify, I don't mean to say that mabinationers here shouldn't use this feature.
  
  I just don't want random googlers finding this and abuse it.
  
  I trust that mabinationers can use this wisely.
• qw565 wrote on 2010-11-19 03:08
  Oh well, at least I learned about the -stam trick which is new to me but the +stam wasn't.
• Kazuni wrote on 2010-11-19 03:09
  I don't see why this should be deleted just because abc wanted to keep it a secret.
• abc33kr wrote on 2010-11-19 03:13

  Quote from Kazuni;220964:

  I don't see why this should be deleted just because abc wanted to keep it a secret.

  
  
  I'm not keeping this a secret. I just don't want this to be fixed and ruined for everyone.
  
  Ever since I found about this, I constantly sent PMs to people who seemed like they needed it. If everyone starts using this, then this will get fixed.
  
  Now do we want that for everyone?
• Kazuni wrote on 2010-11-19 03:29

  Quote from abc33kr;220972:

  I'm not keeping this a secret. I just don't want this to be fixed and ruined for everyone.
  
  Ever since I found about this, I constantly sent PMs to people who seemed like they needed it. If everyone starts using this, then this will get fixed.
  
  Now do we want that for everyone?

  
  
  Nexon doesn't care about mods, do you think they'll care about only one of the in-game glitches? No.
• abc33kr wrote on 2010-11-19 03:39

  Quote from Kazuni;220993:

  Nexon doesn't care about mods, do you think they'll care about only one of the in-game glitches? No.

  
  
  Before you comment, take a look at the history of features like this one.
  
  G1S4, ciar int released. Along with it, destructive enchant was released.
  
  With destructive mace and thief enchanted items, people healed easily.
  
  G2, more people came to know about this and at the hp set's peak, everyone in the ciar parties I went to had this. Then one day it was fixed and ruined for everyone.
  
  Stamina one is the legacy of this. Now do we want to repeat the same mistake by opening this method to idiots who will abuse this so much?
  And I have a feeling that you are assuming that I am being an elitist, but you are wrong in assuming that. All I am doing is protecting this feature from being violated by too many people.
  
  Also, nexon is actually becoming better company. Since you haven't been on mabi to realize, you might not know, but nexon is actually listening to the players a bit more. Even my pessimistic friends who believe nexon fails for the longest time are regaining hope in nexon.
  
  *you should resubmit your ticket or something. Your account might get fixed.*
• Kazuni wrote on 2010-11-19 03:44

  Quote from abc33kr;221003:

  Before you comment, take a look at the history of features like this one.
  
  G1S4, ciar int released. Along with it, destructive enchant was released.
  
  With destructive mace and thief enchanted items, people healed easily.
  
  G2, more people came to know about this and at the hp set's peak, everyone in the ciar parties I went to had this. Then one day it was fixed and ruined for everyone.
  
  Stamina one is the legacy of this. Now do we want to repeat the same mistake by opening this method to idiots who will abuse this so much?
  And I have a feeling that you are assuming that I am being an elitist, but you are wrong in assuming that. All I am doing is protecting this feature from being violated by too many people.
  
  Also, nexon is actually becoming better company. Since you haven't been on mabi to realize, you might not know, but nexon is actually listening to the players a bit more. Even my pessimistic friends who believe nexon fails for the longest time are regaining hope in nexon.
  
  *you should resubmit your ticket or something. Your account might get fixed.*

  
  
  It doesn't mean it's necessary to run in and demand the thread be deleted because nexon might fix a glitch.
• Ailyene wrote on 2010-11-19 03:58
  Huh? This doesn't seem like a glitch to me. It's useful for windmilling spamming in their method or something, but it's not really useful in combat otherwise (at least not for me) because I need to use weapons in both slots and both weapons have better enchants than cypress.
• abc33kr wrote on 2010-11-19 04:00

  Quote from Kazuni;221008:

  It doesn't mean it's necessary to run in and demand the thread be deleted because nexon might fix a glitch.

  
  
  Nobody demanded to delete this thread.
  
  However, it is necessary to delete this thread. It is in everyone's interest.
  
  You keep thinking that I want this thread deleted because of selfish reasons. I don't give a damn if trustworthy people of mabination gets a hold of this information. In fact I have been constantly giving this information to them. But once the bad ones find about this, then nobody will be able to use this. Once that happens, mabinationers who were happy to know about this will be unhappy.
  
  Now what is your reason for not deleting this to keep everyone happy? It's not like I'm stopping good people from knowing about this. I am the one who is telling it to them.
  
  If you have personal grudges against me, then take it to bean rua or something. Don't stop me trying to help everyone.
• Loret wrote on 2010-11-19 04:20
  Considering how rare/expensive the more effective enchants are (Cypress/Obby) I don't think too many will be willing to try it out.
  
  If you wanted to use energetic, one would have to remain age 16-. If you free RB, then it's obviously not worth it. However, many people choose to buy their RB's, so they can afford to stay young and use Energetic. I doubt Nexon would have a problem with that.
  Other option for cheapskates is get one of those +10 stam enchants and tip your hat every wm or so.
  
  'nyways, that's just my 2 cents~
• Okami wrote on 2010-11-19 04:21

  Quote from abc33kr:

  Nobody demanded to delete this thread.
  
  However, it is necessary to delete this thread. It is in everyone's interest.
  
  You keep thinking that I want this thread deleted because of selfish reasons. I don't give a damn if trustworthy people of mabination gets a hold of this information. In fact I have been constantly giving this information to them. But once the bad ones find about this, then nobody will be able to use this. Once that happens, mabinationers who were happy to know about this will be unhappy.
  
  Now what is your reason for not deleting this to keep everyone happy? It's not like I'm stopping good people from knowing about this. I am the one who is telling it to them.
  
  If you have personal grudges against me, then take it to bean rua or something. Don't stop me trying to help everyone.

  
  
  I've been watching this for awhile now, time to chime in.
  
  While it's everyone's interest to delete this thread, it's also in everyone's interest to keep the thread.
  
  I realize you don't care if Nationers get a hold of this, but you do care if random people do. I can understand that, but I really don't see the need to delete this thread over it. I don't think Nexon is going to jump over this anytime soon because as of right now, they have more important things to do/fix in-game. Just because of this little tip/guide, doesn't mean all of Mabinogi is going to get a hold of this and abuse it. While yes it may help to spread it, it isn't going to spread to that many people that fast.
  
  No matter what, people are going to find out about it no matter what we do to stop it.
  Word of mouth between friends is just as potent, if not more worse then this thread.
  
  Also, I know Kazuni better then that. She wouldn't let meaningless grudges get in the way of her personal opinions. Just because someone doesn't agree with you, doesn't mean they hold a grudge against you.
• Username wrote on 2010-11-19 04:23
  I knew about this for a very long time. No secret indeed.
• abc33kr wrote on 2010-11-19 04:29

  Quote from Okami;221103:

  I've been watching this for awhile now, time to chime in.
  
  While it's everyone's interest to delete this thread, it's also in everyone's interest to keep the thread.
  
  I realize you don't care if Nationers get a hold of this, but you do care if random people do. I can understand that, but I really don't see the need to delete this thread over it. I don't think Nexon is going to jump over this anytime soon because as of right now, they have more important things to do/fix in-game. Just because of this little tip/guide, doesn't mean all of Mabinogi is going to get a hold of this and abuse it. While yes it may help to spread it, it isn't going to spread to that many people that fast.
  
  No matter what, people are going to find out about it no matter what we do to stop it.
  Word of mouth between friends is just as potent, if not more worse then this thread.
  
  Also, I know Kazuni better then that. She wouldn't let meaningless grudges get in the way of her personal opinions. Just because someone doesn't agree with you, doesn't mean they hold a grudge against you.

  
  
  Maybe deleting the thread was a bit too extreme.
  
  If it's not too bothersome, could we hide this thread at certain time and reopen this thread every other time? If that is possible, I will be willing to list all the enchants (for maximum effect and affordable maximum effect) and make this guide complete.
  
  Hopefully, this thread will be buried so that the active members of mabination has a chance to view this thread and the strangers will never know.
• Kazuni wrote on 2010-11-19 04:33

  Quote from abc33kr;221113:

  Maybe deleting the thread was a bit too extreme.
  
  If it's not too bothersome, could we hide this thread at certain time and reopen this thread every other time? If that is possible, I will be willing to list all the enchants (for maximum effect and affordable maximum effect) and make this guide complete.
  
  Hopefully, this thread will be buried so that the active members of mabination has a chance to view this thread and the strangers will never know.

  
  
  Abc, that's getting ridiculous.
  
  Information on this forum is public for those who seek it.