What pisses you off in Mabinogi?

• Ravendor wrote on 2010-12-01 15:58
  Even if they have a good idea on what the value of an item is they still won't announce the price range to the person wishing to buy in the off chance that the buyer has more money than brains and offers significantly more than the item is worth. On the other hand a person wanting to buy an item from a seller and isn't sure of the item's value can only make an educated guess on the value, and very often if the seller doesn't like the offer they will flat out tell them 'no' rather than attempt further negotiation. It's a headache either way, and why I dislike merchanting in general. DX
  
  Please be more forthright, people!
• Jando wrote on 2010-12-01 16:01

  Quote from Ravendor;234351:

  Australian lag gahhhhhhhh...

  
  
  What Australian lag?
  I was like the only person in my guild not lagging during the Double Rainbow Event (And yes, I was doing SM's)
• Ravendor wrote on 2010-12-01 16:02

  Quote from Jando;234398:

  What Australian lag?
  I was like the only person in my guild not lagging during the Double Rainbow Event (And yes, I was doing SM's)

  
  
  You're so lucky, then. :<
• pkMaster wrote on 2010-12-01 19:24

  Quote from Ravendor;234392:

  Even if they have a good idea on what the value of an item is they still won't announce the price range to the person wishing to buy in the off chance that the buyer has more money than brains and offers significantly more than the item is worth. On the other hand a person wanting to buy an item from a seller and isn't sure of the item's value can only make an educated guess on the value, and very often if the seller doesn't like the offer they will flat out tell them 'no' rather than attempt further negotiation. It's a headache either way, and why I dislike merchanting in general. DX
  
  Please be more forthright, people!

  
  
  I'll admit, I've done this before when selling rare items to see what I could get from a person, but I usually set a minimum price value for those items in my head before letting them know how much I want for an item, and it's never really been higher than the market value. If the offer is too low though, then I bring up my minimum price and see if they bite (which they usually do if they desperately need the item).
  
  What I hate about merchanting though is when some guy who obviously can't pay for the item makes a ridiculously low offer for a highly priced item, then starts complaining about how "overpriced" an item is when my minimum price is usually MUCH lower than the market value of an item. Just last week, I got 2 notes from a couple of random guys who wanted to buy my eagle wizard suit and one of them offered to buy it for 100K. I've seen the item go for about 2-3 mil and he was offering less then 10% of that, but I felt that I'd be satisfied with getting at least 500K for the suit so I offered that and then he gets angry at me and calls me a scammer ~_~. Lucky, the other guy made an offer for 2 mil since he needed the suit to enchant his raccoon cub ES, so I was able to sell it to him right of the bat without any negotiations.
• Arufonsu wrote on 2010-12-01 19:27

  Quote from Pikablu;223811:

  Nothing really. Everything is happening for a reason.
  
  However community-wise I hate NX whores. By NX Whores, I mean the people who have low CP (lolmods) and somehow are equipped with extremely expensive equipment, hang out in Dunbarton, and act obnoxious.

  
  
  well low cp people with expensive clothes.. maybe they are more "pro" than you think?.. how about ppl that rush into refine/weaving/+DEX life skills b4 start training High cp skills? thats very smart imo lol..
  
  and yah..in general the Monster Lag.. lol.. only if mabinogi were based more on client side stuff
  than server side.. juz like dragon nest, it would be like.... no lag and fast action mob killing 0 0''
  
  eniways.. sometimes lag makes the game more interesting.. you can learn by playing with lag,
  i play taiwan with 300-600ms.. and i still preffer taiwan instead of NA.. dun ask me why....
  aniways i learned to play with lag and no drama
• Cide wrote on 2010-12-01 19:33

  Quote from pkMaster;234568:

  I'll admit, I've done this before when selling rare items to see what I could get from a person, but I usually set a minimum price value for those items in my head before letting them know how much I want for an item, and it's never really been higher than the market value. If the offer is too low though, then I bring up my minimum price and see if they bite (which they usually do if they desperately need the item).
  
  What I hate about merchanting though is when some guy who obviously can't pay for the item makes a ridiculously low offer for a highly priced item, then starts complaining about how "overpriced" an item is when my minimum price is usually MUCH lower than the market value of an item. Just last week, I got 2 notes from a couple of random guys who wanted to buy my eagle wizard suit and one of them offered to buy it for 100K. I've seen the item go for about 2-3 mil and he was offering less then 10% of that, but I felt that I'd be satisfied with getting at least 500K for the suit so I offered that and then he gets angry at me and calls me a scammer ~_~. Lucky, the other guy made an offer for 2 mil since he needed the suit to enchant his raccoon cub ES, so I was able to sell it to him right of the bat without any negotiations.

  
  
  2-3m for eagle? jesus, remind me to never set foot in mari.
• Ailyene wrote on 2010-12-01 19:38

  Quote from Arufonsu;234570:

  well low cp people with expensive clothes.. maybe they are more "pro" than you think?.. how about ppl that rush into refine/weaving/+DEX life skills b4 start training High cp skills? thats very smart imo lol..
  
  and yah..in general the Monster Lag.. lol.. only if mabinogi were based more on client side stuff
  than server side.. juz like dragon nest, it would be like.... no lag and fast action mob killing 0 0''
  
  eniways.. sometimes lag makes the game more interesting.. you can learn by playing with lag,
  i play taiwan with 300-600ms.. and i still preffer taiwan instead of NA.. dun ask me why....
  aniways i learned to play with lag and no drama

  
  
  I'm not sure about how low the CP is that he's talking about, but I doubt that any new player would know right away to train life skills first and not train any combat skills at all. Ranking up some skills to be able to fight decently should make your CP at least 500+, since you still need to hunt for materials. If the person just joins the game and gachas right away to make money, that's still "low CP, new player gachawhoring". Actually, I tend to dislike anyone who gachas, but then they're the ones bringing my favorite items into the game so I guess I can't really say much about them...I'm just jealous because I lack the money in real life. -sob-
  
  Also, regarding the offers thing. I dislike people who ask me for minimum offers because what happens is that they tend to offer only 100k above or the minimum offer I tell them. I'd rather them offer a price to see if it's above my min offer. Like Ravendor said, I'd like to test if my buyer has less brains and is more willing to part with their cash. When I'm selling things, it's not for charity. It's to get money.
  
  By the way...Eagle suits have not gone for anything over 1 mil in a long long time. I usually see 400k-600k. If there are 2-3 mil ones, trust me. No one is going to ever buy those unless they're stupid or extremely desperate.
• pkMaster wrote on 2010-12-01 19:42

  Quote from Cide;234575:

  2-3m for eagle? jesus, remind me to never set foot in mari.

  
  
  It's 2-3 mil for the eagle wizard suit, not the enchant scroll just so you know. The scroll itself goes for 100K usually, but the only reason the wizard suit is a lot more expensive is because of the really low success rate of enchanting it successfully onto a wizard suit, around 3% if I remember correctly since it requires you to successfully enchant viper before hand which itself has a really low success rate and will instantly destroy your equipment upon failure (unless you have a deep pocket and can shell out a few enchant protection potions). The only other way of getting this item is through hunting desert dragons, but the drop is so rare, I've probably only seen maybe 3-4 wizard suits drop from the dragon and I've been hunting them since a couple months after the Iria patch came out.
  
  

  Quote from Ailyene;234582:

  By the way...Eagle suits have not gone for anything over 1 mil in a long long time. I usually see 400k-600k. If there are 2-3 mil ones, trust me. No one is going to ever buy those unless they're stupid or extremely desperate.

  
  
  Really, I saw like 3-4 people advertising the suit for like 2-3 mil last week. Regardless, my minimum offer was only 500K which sits somewhere in the middle of that price range and they guy offered for only 100K. The only reason I sold it to the other guy for 2 mil was because he was the one that made that offer, not me. I mean come on, It's not a freakn enchant scroll, the enchant is already put on the item for you so you don't have to waste time and money trying to get it on the suit in the first place. I swear, some ppl are just plain greedy.
• Ailyene wrote on 2010-12-01 19:45
  Err, I saw a couple of eagle wizard suits in housing for 600k like 2 weeks ago. o_O
• Arufonsu wrote on 2010-12-01 19:45

  Quote from Ailyene;234582:

  I'm not sure about how low the CP is that he's talking about, but I doubt that any new player would know right away to train life skills first and not train any combat skills at all. Ranking up some skills to be able to fight decently should make your CP at least 500+, since you still need to hunt for materials. If the person just joins the game and gachas right away to make money, that's still "low CP, new player gachawhoring". Actually, I tend to dislike anyone who gachas, but then they're the ones bringing my favorite items into the game so I guess I can't really say much about them...I'm just jealous because I lack the money in real life. -sob-
  
  Also, regarding the offers thing. I dislike people who ask me for minimum offers because what happens is that they tend to offer only 100k above or the minimum offer I tell them. I'd rather them offer a price to see if it's above my min offer. Like Ravendor said, I'd like to test if my buyer has less brains and is more willing to part with their cash. When I'm selling things, it's not for charity. It's to get money.
  
  By the way...Eagle suits have not gone for anything over 1 mil in a long long time. I usually see 400k-600k. If there are 2-3 mil ones, trust me. No one is going to ever buy those unless they're stupid or extremely desperate.

  
  
  maybe thet are not new players at all and are experienced ppl that wanted to start over again cuz they screwed their first character (cof cof XD!)... sometimes this its a drama, mabinogi force us to train high/combat cp skills ''Orz
  ..when i read the word "charity".. i dunno how NA's economy its atm.. but at tw.. there is crazy ppl donating 6500w+ (1w = 10k) to the Donation thing at Tara's church ONLY for journal/title/ and for their name to be listened at 1st at the donation rank.. crazy lol
• Ailyene wrote on 2010-12-01 19:48

  Quote from Arufonsu;234594:

  maybe thet are not new players at all and are experienced ppl that wanted to start over again cuz they screwed their first character (cof cof XD!)
  ..when i read the word "charity".. i dunno how NA's economy its atm.. but at tw.. there is crazy ppl donating 6500w+ (1w = 10k) to the Donation thing at Tara's church ONLY for journal/title/ and for their name to be listened at 1st at the donation rank.. crazy lol

  
  
  Well, yeah. Rich characters with low CP are either new gachawhores or people starting over...or boys who make girl characters to stand around in Dunbarton so they can scam.
  
  I saw a player donate 7.5 mil to charity the moment it came out and I was like holy...where do they get so much money. T_T That player often blows millions a week in auctions too.
• pkMaster wrote on 2010-12-01 19:54

  Quote from Ailyene;234592:

  Err, I saw a couple of eagle wizard suits in housing for 600k like 2 weeks ago. o_O

  
  
  Oh shoot, I forgot to check the housing board.
  :oops:
  
  Regardless, I did offer only 500K for the item which is still lower than that.
• frozenwilderness wrote on 2010-12-01 21:17
  Eagle wizard suits on Ruairi are like 200-300k or so. I dunno, but I think they're 400k tops
  
  Anyway, failing repairs is what pisses me off the most about this game. Other than that, I get annoyed when people cheat in duels, especially when they already have a huge advantage over you and/or are several times your level. Also when people spam me with faces like o.o.. once in a while is ok, though even then I'm a little iffy about it, but when it's constantly "o.o" or "o -o" for no good reason I tend to start ignoring them or just delete them all together.
  
  Forgot to mention, I also get annoyed when people think you're a trash can and they can dump all the junk that they don't want for some item you have.
• pkMaster wrote on 2010-12-01 21:38

  Quote from frozenwilderness;234701:

  Eagle wizard suits on Ruairi are like 200-300k or so. I dunno, but I think they're 400k tops

  
  
  Aww man, you guys are making me feel bad for selling that suit for 2 mil.
  :gloom2:
  
  Though I guess it's not that bad since he was the one that wanted to buy it from me for that much. So I guess it's ok?
  :what:
  
  

  Quote from frozenwilderness;234701:

  
  Forgot to mention, I also get annoyed when people think you're a trash can and they can dump all the junk that they don't want for some item you have.

  
  
  Oh ya, I hate that too. Which reminds me, I also hate it when the person your bartering with tries to trade the item you have with another item that has either low dura or is about to be broken. "Hey dude, I'll give you 4 dura toiz and a hatchet for your blue flashy dye." That was an exaggeration if you guys didn't catch that, but
• CriticalPhail wrote on 2010-12-02 04:06
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  If there are any Tarlachians on this forum who are or have been in Woah, then you know EXACTLY what I'm talking about.