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Kueh wrote on 2010-11-24 17:11
Quote from abc33kr;227338:
And if you think that kind of activity is perverted, then you have some serious problems. The world isn't a pure white world, get out of ur imagination and face reality.
If this was directed towards me, you need to actually read what I posted. I didn't say I was against the idea, nor did I say these were things that are going to happen.
I said I was for the idea, but these are things that could possibly happen.
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Phunkie wrote on 2010-11-24 17:18
What's a mature topic?
We've had topics on sex before. On what's a good age to have sex, about a woman who fell down and became obsessed with sex, about how fat men make better lovers (lol?), etc., etc.
There's nothing wrong discussing sexual topics while still being mature. But talking about how badly you want to have sex with a certain person... well, that's just kinda nasty. Stuff like that should be kept between good friends, not communicated out to an entire forum, nor to a select few.
If you wanted to post in my Confessions thread, you could have very well done so; of course, without being too explicit.
Why is there a need to be so descriptive and explicit about mature and private issues such as sex? Sure, you could be asking for advice on the matter, like Rihanna (yayforhanna) did--whose thread lock I was surprised with, since everyone was being mature--but otherwise it seems a little out of place, at least to me.
There's a bunch of other nice forums if you wish to discuss genital sizes and masturbation techniques, if that's what you really want to do. Or fetishes and the sort.
The worst you'll find here are just silly discussions about certain members' asses and jokes about people trying to get in each other's beds. And that works, seeing as how we're not such a specific forum. We focus on Mabinogi and Vindictus, yes, but we're pretty general in all other aspects. Sex included.
Plus, I don't think anyone's too into sex that it requires a whole new sub-forum. It'd be a dead section or if not, just a spammy section about everyone's certain fetishes and hentai and yaoi and whatnot.
Plus, it brings up the question, if we allow a mature section, do we allow mature images and videos in that section as well? I love me some sexy men, but I don't come to Mabination to look at porn, nor read about people's fantasies.
And what if someone's sexual fantasies offend another? Beastiality, homosexuality, pedophilia, old people sex? It becomes waaaaay too complicated.
Therefore, stuff like that should be left to the imagination.
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abc33kr wrote on 2010-11-24 17:34
D: I just want a place talk about hawt stuff in mabi.
Just like that nao appreciation thread. That is a good example of things we will talk about in this mature discussion forum.
We will talk about npcs and maybe refer to a doujinshi through a link (and if that is not allowed, we will pm).
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Byte wrote on 2010-11-24 17:35
I would make a section for it, but I wouldn't allow pictures/videos/porn links. Hard discussion on it, like talking about flavoured protection(waha) or how to please your man/woman in detail would be allowed.
Otherwise, I'll be enforcing the PG-13 rule("Sex talk"(TV Show) is rated M, and they show nothing that's my basis[don't hate cause I watch it every now and then!!]).
A section in General Discussions sure... but, it would have to have it's own rules applied to it, along with "No Links, Images, Videos" and someway of a disclaimer/password/privilege.
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abc33kr wrote on 2010-11-24 17:40
Then can we talk about giving links through pm?
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Phunkie wrote on 2010-11-24 17:44
Quote from abc33kr;227353:
D: I just want a place talk about hawt stuff in mabi.
Just like that nao appreciation thread. That is a good example of things we will talk about in this mature discussion forum.
We will talk about npcs and maybe refer to a doujinshi through a link (and if that is not allowed, we will pm).
I dunno, man.
There's IM for these kinds of things.
Nao is hot and whatnot, but we don't really need to hear what you'd love to do to her. Speaking in general, of course.
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Then can we talk about giving links through pm?
You can send whatever you want to another person through PM, as long as it's not offensive to that user. Haha, they're called private messages for a reason.
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newnameforyou wrote on 2010-11-24 17:46
Ugh, do you people actually think I mean a forum category with only threads like "what's the best technique for masturbation"? Hell no. I wouldn't like those topics because they are just idiotic. I mean a category where topics like Hanna's wouldn't get locked because "onoes, der might b lil kids readin" or "onoes, that person posted the bad word penis... better lock it!!1!!" - you see? Everyone posted maturely in Hanna's topics so there was no reason to lock her topic I linked to in the OP. Don't remember which mod did it, but my point is: It's
NOT the end of the world when someone asks a question about sex or has a problem regarding it or posts words like tits, vagina, penis.
And yes, exactly, abc33kr.
Quote from Phunkie:
If you wanted to post in my Confessions thread, you could have very well done so; of course, without being too explicit.
That might've been fine with you, but there are mods a hell lot more uptight than you. I definitely would've gotten infracted.
Quote from Phunkie:
Why is there a need to be so descriptive and explicit about mature and private issues such as sex?
Again, mature topics do not necessarily mean someone will tell in great detail about their sex life. See the beginning of my post for what I mean.
Quote from Phunkie:
And what if someone's sexual fantasies offend another? Beastiality, homosexuality, pedophilia, old people sex? It becomes waaaaay too complicated.
Well if you'd let people talk about illegal things, then yeah.
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Phunkie wrote on 2010-11-24 17:55
Beastiality isn't explicitly outlawed everywhere. But that's another whole topic. haha
And yeah, you're right. Nothing wrong with saying penis or vagina.
If I remember correctly, that Nao thread was never locked, so there was nothing wrong with it. You say you wanna discuss topics like that one and I say, go for it, there's no problem with that.
Also, I don't see why we can't discuss things like flavored condoms as well, an idea that Byte brought up. There's nothing wrong about that, IMO.
But I'd have to see what the other moderators say.
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newnameforyou wrote on 2010-11-24 18:01
Yeah, I'm all for all kinds of discussions. I just meant that a mature section doesn't necessarily mean it's only about those kind of topics. Also for non-pg13 problems people have, etc.
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Navy wrote on 2010-11-24 20:02
I think a mature discussions section is a good idea.
I like the thought of being able to talk about personal problems (such as the problem with my boyfriend and I) without worrying of getting in trouble/banned for breaking the rules.
But of course that's just me, I can see a problem with people coming to the site to 'troll' by spamming porn videos, sites, ect.
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Byte wrote on 2010-11-24 20:12
Quote from yayforhanna;227466:
I think a mature discussions section is a good idea.
I like the thought of being able to talk about personal problems (such as the problem with my boyfriend and I) without worrying of getting in trouble/banned for breaking the rules.
But of course that's just me, I can see a problem with people coming to the site to 'troll' by spamming porn videos, sites, ect.
Which is why I personally wouldn't allow any videos, links or images of anything.
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Navy wrote on 2010-11-24 20:18
Quote from Courier;227472:
Which is why I personally wouldn't allow any videos, links or images of anything.
Then I think it would be nice to just have a place where we can have a mature subjects.
Age block + video/pics/link block would make it easier to have one without any trouble.
though I don't think the age block should be 18+
maybe a late teenage limit such as 15 or 16+
because around that age is when people start to have personal problems. o:
but that's just my opinion.
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Byte wrote on 2010-11-24 20:21
Quote from yayforhanna;227477:
Then I think it would be nice to just have a place where we can have a mature subjects.
Age block + video/pics/link block would make it easier to have one without any trouble.
though I don't think the age block should be 18+
maybe a late teenage limit such as 15 or 16+
because around that age is when people start to have personal problems. o:
but that's just my opinion.
If we go into a site that's 18+ and post their stuff on a 16+ forum, don't you think there is a problem?
This topic is... eh/eh/eh. There are plenty of OTHER forums to talk about stuff like that, and as you found out, I'm fine with PMing you help, it's just you have to assume everyone's parents are anal and read over your shoulder(I hated that when I was younger... grr ...)
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Navy wrote on 2010-11-24 20:25
LOL I totally forgot about that. I remember being like 12 and my parents always though I was talking to some 50 year old pedophile.
;_;
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newnameforyou wrote on 2010-11-24 20:33
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This topic is... eh/eh/eh. There are plenty of OTHER forums to talk about stuff like that, and as you found out, I'm fine with PMing you help, it's just you have to assume everyone's parents are anal and read over your shoulder(I hated that when I was younger... grr ...)
People don't wanna go to another forum with strange people on it to talk about that sutff. They want to ask mabination members.
And again, if your parents still read over your shoulder you are most likely <13 and don't belong on here.