Everyone KR test nao~

• Kaon wrote on 2010-12-18 19:33

  Quote from Fracture;252042:

  No. Elves need to learn that humans are Mabis archers. Devcat's finally showing them this by having you fall behind in dex. :D

  
  
  I don't care about dex lol. I want the str.
• Fracture wrote on 2010-12-18 19:39

  Quote from Kaon;252260:

  I don't care about dex lol. I want the str.

  
  
  Revised: No. Elves need to learn that giants are Mabi's warriors. Devcat's finally showing them this by having you fall behind in str. :D
  
  

  Quote from Kaeporo;252052:

  Fracture, in that other thread you practically jumped me when I posted something negative regarding Human ranged combat. It's pretty obvious that you rage hard against Elven Archers but I was specifically referring to the Human Archer's ability to compete with similar-level Human builds as well as its versatility.

  
  
  It's not rage so much as contempt. They have a massive crutch, so I like to be smug when real archery overpowers it.
  As for versatility and competition with other builds-- I must admit, this is true of a pure archer. If a human archer hybridizes (preferably with melee or alchemy, magic is somewhat redundant to an archer) they become a very versatile and powerful character. Was even more so before bowmill got nerfed, but oh well...
• jking012 wrote on 2010-12-18 20:03

  Quote from Jando;251985:

  You have the highest damaging attack in game, your the only class that can get 100% protection, you can have allied humans ride on your shoulder, you can equips shields with 2handed's, you get infinite attack with Down attack and Knuckles, you have easier wm training. Do I need to go?

  
  
  just fyi... fullswing is the 2nd most damaging skill ingame
  the 1st is blaze :/ atm
  
  and dont start... even if i had enchants I still cant match 19.5k
  
  Highest i hit with my 95-196 broad axe (now 200 max) was 10.100 and that was with a jelly bean of str >.>
  
  blaze might get 25% lower dmg in g13 but gets 20? from fire mastery and then any int passed 100 increases dmg beyond what it is now...>.> and where we are now i've seen blaze hit 19.5k
  
  (i believe this is the video for it)
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n7UT-F57Kwg
  NOTE: put the quality up or you can't see the numbers
• Kaon wrote on 2010-12-18 21:17

  Quote from Fracture;252265:

  Revised: No. Elves need to learn that giants are Mabi's warriors. Devcat's finally showing them this by having you fall behind in str. :D
  

  
  
  You think they're only falling behind just now? Pay attention. I just want buffs, I couldn't careless how much str giants get lol.
• Fracture wrote on 2010-12-18 21:28

  Quote from Kaon;252360:

  You think they're only falling behind just now? Pay attention. I just want buffs, I couldn't careless how much str giants get lol.

  
  
  Yeah, wasn't fully revised, but it gets the point across. If you want all the lovely new melee stuff that's coming out-- you should've been giant or human. While you can come pretty close to them, fact is that elves weren't designed for melee, so you won't get all the things that come out for it.
• Yogurticecream wrote on 2010-12-18 21:35
  I remembered that there are a few exclusive elf-melee weapons, though not too over-powered.
  Elves have to let aside for some human/giant exclusive items. There are plenty of items that are human/elf exclusive that giants can't use.
  Elves were meant to have an advantage in the magic/range segment, humans in versatility, giants in melee segment.
• Kaon wrote on 2010-12-18 21:45

  Quote from Fracture;252376:

  Yeah, wasn't fully revised, but it gets the point across. If you want all the lovely new melee stuff that's coming out-- you should've been giant or human. While you can come pretty close to them, fact is that elves weren't designed for melee, so you won't get all the things that come out for it.

  
  
  We get most of the stuff... just that little bit of str off the lance skills is nice... o3o. I don't care about the lances themselves. And just playing a char type "cause that's how it's supposed to be played" is a waste of time if it's not fun. I don't like giants and I don't wanna be the same dex whore elf with an ego bow as everyone else lol. This is what's fun... and I just want more str... o3o (not to say I don't have plenty of dex and I don't range, cause I'm more than fine for both)
  
  Anyway, my point is that the appeal of mabi is the versatility available to pretty much all chars. I'm not gonna go start a new char just for a small buff in a combat type.... if you want such set classes, this isn't the game to be playing. Tbh I'd be fine if the only difference between races was looks.
• Fracture wrote on 2010-12-18 21:51

  Quote from Kaon;252393:

  And just playing a char type "cause that's how it's supposed to be played" is a waste of time if it's not fun.

  
  
  I know that. However, if you play as a race that's not meant for what you want to do, you have to accept that the developers are gonna make you miss out on a lot of stuff. I wouldn't mind either, though, if the difference was looks-only.
• frozenwilderness wrote on 2010-12-18 21:55
  lances look lame and not that efficient in killing..
• Zid wrote on 2010-12-18 22:03

  Quote from Kaon;252393:

  Anyway, my point is that the appeal of mabi is the versatility available to pretty much all chars. I'm not gonna go start a new char just for a small buff in a combat type.... if you want such set classes, this isn't the game to be playing. Tbh I'd be fine if the only difference between races was looks.

  
  
  I wouldn't consider dual wield, Full Swing, double arrows, low load time of Magnum Shot, etc. to be just small buffs... haha.
  
  My opinion, I think if Giants can get the same amount of Dexterity (They're missing out over 100 easy Dex from Ranged skills) and Ranged capabilities as Human/Elf within the similar efforts, then I see no point in downplaying Elves so much.
  
  Of course, I'm also on the side that favors Humans and Giants running at the same speed as Elves, so... :oops:
• Kanam wrote on 2010-12-18 22:12

  Quote from frozenwilderness;252406:

  lances look lame and not that efficient in killing..

  
  
  Depend on the usage you have for them. I can say they can kill just right used in the right way. Lance charge > Smash (hopefully on a wall nearby) > WM work wonder for me.
  
  But I hate them for solo play...a mistake and I'm pretty much dead.
• Zid wrote on 2010-12-18 22:19

  Quote from Kanam;252421:

  Depend on the usage you have for them. I can say they can kill just right used in the right way. Lance charge > Smash (hopefully on a wall nearby) > WM work wonder for me.
  
  But I hate them for solo play...a mistake and I'm pretty much dead.

  
  
  But you're so pro at it~
  
  I mean, pulling off a Lance Counter in the middle of a monster attack that wasn't N+1. o_o
• Kanam wrote on 2010-12-18 22:24
  That was totally luck on my side imo. The monster looked like it stopped attacking for a split second. And I tried soloing rabbie today...andwell once the monster get inside my "can't attack" range i'm pretty much dead.
  
  Especially those skeleton that decide to be mean and not attack when I load counter (since they looked ready to hit me) then hit me as soon as counter go poof.
• Screenhog wrote on 2010-12-19 00:26
  I would if I knew how! ;~;
• Taliya wrote on 2010-12-19 02:30

  Quote from Kanam;252433:

  That was totally luck on my side imo. The monster looked like it stopped attacking for a split second. And I tried soloing rabbie today...andwell once the monster get inside my "can't attack" range i'm pretty much dead.
  
  Especially those skeleton that decide to be mean and not attack when I load counter (since they looked ready to hit me) then hit me as soon as counter go poof.

  
  
  If you watched the video I made, this was the reason why I always shot them with lightning bolt.