Alchemist?

• Sapphireoath wrote on 2010-12-13 23:59
  I love using my R1 Flame in Adv SM's, if I get enough crits it usually means a whole mob wiped out. I only have R9 Mastery, and I think I can hit at least 500 crit (I've seen people hit 800+ crits). R1 Water Cannon is great 1v1, just fully load and let it rip while praying for a crit...3k+ (depending on AM rank and crit rank). (inb4 Username the Heatbuster obsessed Master). Don't ignore WC until you actually try it, the DPS isn't that bad if you can wall a fomor (at R5+ for load). Also, rank Golem as its our (as in Elf) only best Melee option seeing as our Melee sucks :<. I haven't delved into Frozen Blast yet, but freezing a boss and then spamming Magnum would quickly clear a SM without worrying about dying (requires a high ranked Frozen though).
• Cookies wrote on 2010-12-14 00:19
  Have you considered golem summoning at all? At rank 1 along with alchemy mastery, you can pretty much clear everything with them.
  
  If you are really considering r1 barrier spikes, just rank alchemy mastery along with it. You'll need to make 1000 crystals at rank 1 for the master title, and mastery rank A and B requires you to make close to that amount of crystals, might as well get a head start on that. Frozen blast is just not worth the ap.
  
  I'm currently a royal alchemist with r1 golem/spikes/mastery and r6 wind blast (and synthesis I guess), you don't really need to get into the attack skills much for the position.
• Silverkun wrote on 2010-12-14 00:36
  Hm, so I should consider...
  
  1. Need MOAR dex. How to obtain? I could try Weaving, I suppose. Final Shot also gives good dex. But I'm not really sure what I should do about this.
  
  2. Golem summoning. Having a means of using melee is desirable, that's true. Hm...
  
  3. Work on Crash Shot in the near future. (that is definitely a win skill, even if it requires gratuitous amounts of AP)
  
  4. Put off r1 Barrier Spikes for later, r5 is probably good enough.
  
  5. Eventually work on Water Cannon, it really isn't that bad.
• Bankai231 wrote on 2010-12-14 01:38
  Golem Summoning is the BEST (Imo) alchemy skill. Epsecially for an elf. You can do pretty much anything with them.
  Crash shot is good if you are range prioritized. Go for more dex and work on alchemy passively.
• NotAnElf wrote on 2010-12-14 02:09

  Quote from Silverkun;246894:

  ^So your opinion is that I should rank Final Shot and either Frozen Blast or Spark?
  

  
  nonononononononoanonaosndsaofjkajsfs
  
  You should only rank shock if you have ap to throw away.
• Aubog007 wrote on 2010-12-14 02:17

  Quote from NotAnElf;247185:

  nonononononononoanonaosndsaofjkajsfs
  
  You should only rank shock if you have ap to throw away.

  
  
  absolutely agree.
• Yanm wrote on 2010-12-14 02:31

  Quote from Cookies;246990:

  Have you considered golem summoning at all? At rank 1 along with alchemy mastery, you can pretty much clear everything with them.
  
  If you are really considering r1 barrier spikes, just rank alchemy mastery along with it. You'll need to make 1000 crystals at rank 1 for the master title, and mastery rank A and B requires you to make close to that amount of crystals, might as well get a head start on that. Frozen blast is just not worth the ap.
  
  I'm currently a royal alchemist with r1 golem/spikes/mastery and r6 wind blast (and synthesis I guess), you don't really need to get into the attack skills much for the position.

  
  
  Not worth the ap? What's your reason for thinking that, if I may ask?
• Silverkun wrote on 2010-12-14 02:32
  Hey it's not like I can rank Shock/Spark anyway. Sure I have it, I've completed all of G7-12, but it's only Novice and I'm not willing or able to collect all those pages. It's way harder to collect the pages for it than it was for the advanced magic spells.
  
  But, alright. So for now, priority goes to:
  
  Critical Hit
  Summon Golem
  Alchemy Mastery (and getting Frozen Blast so I can make those crystals)
  Crash Shot
  
  In that order. I guess, anyway...
• Cookies wrote on 2010-12-14 02:42

  Quote from Yanm;247229:

  Not worth the ap? What's your reason for thinking that, if I may ask?

  
  
  Not worth dumping AP into it just for alchemy mastery. Rank 1 as I see it is still very situational and should not be prioritized. It doesn't work often enough in hard mode, where things don't die in just one or two hits.
• Ailyene wrote on 2010-12-14 10:43
  Well, I managed to train Alchemy Mastery just fine with rank C frozen blast. The materials are so insanely easy to get, so it's a matter of taking more time to gather materials or using more AP for a higher success rate.
  
  Anyways, to the OP, I would suggest for you to train Alchemy Mastery as early as you can. It gives bonuses to every alchemy skill and is very important for golem summoning if you're planning to rank that too. A rank 1 golem summoner with a low-ranked Alchemy Mastery still does pretty crappy damage with a sulfur/forest golem compared to a human/giant with decent melee.
• Jando wrote on 2010-12-14 11:46
  Hmm....You should atleast invest into r5 Crash Shot which is only 238 ap which is pretty decent if you ask me. At r5 you get the 2 second load time and the ability to hit 5 monsters in the splash and a total of 6. I would recommend getting that.
  
  As for dex, I would cap first aid, get r1 Mirage missile and then work on r1 Final shot. That is around 60 or so dex, around 80 of you get r5 crash along with that. Critical hit should just be ranked when it can be ranked, just make sure you ap leftover or it.
  
  r5 Barrier spikes is fine at the moment as there aren't alot of danger situations needing them. I will eventually get r5 Barrier spikes for Their Method so I can make artificial walls so I can spam wm on those zombies and the most useful place to use Barrier Spikes would have to be for SCC. Run up to the mob, have a pet out to handle aggro if it occurs, load Barrier Spikes, set them out infront of the mob, spam crash shot.
  
  That's just a suggestion, I have no idea how effected that would be. As for crash shot however, if you have the damage to support it then it will be awesome. Crash Shot in HM SM's like SCC is amazing and being able to clear those mobs out so fast is awesome and can give you more exp:min then just using mag spam etc.
  
  Oh and don't forget about G13. Bow mastery is amazing as it gives +30 max damage, +15min damage and 19 dex for only 157 ap. 30 max damage = 75 dex and 15 min damage = 105 dex, thats hot. And then you have Sword Mastery which gives another 19 dex. 2 very good skills to take into account when g13 comes around.