Help the cat buiild a pokemanz team

• BobYoMeowMeow wrote on 2010-12-20 23:06
  Thought item clause is no longer used
  
  6vs.6 Single
  
  Lead
  Aerodactyl @focus sash
  -rock slide
  -stealth rock
  -earthquake
  -taunt
  
  Phy Sweeper
  Metagross @ life orb
  -agility
  -meteor mash
  -earthquake
  -thunderpunch
  
  Mixed Attacker
  Gengar @ expert belt
  -Substitute
  -shadow ball
  -focus blast
  -ice punch
  
  Special Sweeper
  Gardevoir @ Custap Berry
  -Calm Mind
  -focus blast
  -shadow ball
  -will o wisp
  
  Phy Wall
  Hippowdon @ leftovers
  -slack off
  -earthquake
  -stealth rock
  -toxic
  
  Special Wall/support
  Blissey @ Shed Shell
  -wish
  -protect
  -seismic toss
  -toxic
• Paul wrote on 2010-12-20 23:23
  Why so much legendaries in this thread? o_o
• Teaberry wrote on 2010-12-21 00:02

  Quote from Paul;254691:

  Why so much legendaries in this thread? o_o

  The cat never specified any sort of tier to stick to, so it's only natural some people will go for the heavy hitters.
  
  As for Item Clause, it's been programmed into the game and is in use during many online battles. Unofficial communities and game clients seem to turn it off, but since you're playing on a DS I figure it's worth keeping in mind.
  
  As for your team. At first glance items and movesets seem pretty alright, and there's no giant weakness among the types. Gardevoir isn't bringing much to the table, though. Gardevoir can fill several slots at once due to his/her weird moveset... but as a Special Sweeper it has the same two sweeping moves your Mixed Sweeper (Gengar) has. Gengar's speed will make up for the lack of Calm Mind and you'll get a lot of use out of him with Sub (hint hint: put the Leftovers here. Or Shell Bell, or something. Healing = more subs = more Gengar ownage). You'll find that with a few EVs in SAtk Gengar doesn't need the 20% boost the Expert Belt is giving him. This will probably be a testing point of your team.
  
  Metagross, Blissey, Aerodactyl are pretty standard. I guess Hippowdon is too. I think my only concerns lie with the item placement, other than Gengar potentially overshadowing Gardevoir.
• Singleuseonly wrote on 2010-12-21 05:19

  Quote from Paul;254691:

  Why so much legendaries in this thread? o_o

  
  
  Because legendaries tend to live up to their name and do a good job (excluding stuff like Moltres). The only problem is the nature...I have never gotten a legendary with a "good" nature for what its role is.
  
  

  Quote from Teaberry;254744:

  The cat never specified any sort of tier to stick to, so it's only natural some people will go for the heavy hitters.

  
  
  Yep, he never said he was aiming for a standard OU build or what not.
• BobYoMeowMeow wrote on 2010-12-21 05:29

  You can suggest more, but no more ubers

  
  
  then, the cat has no idea what it takes to be a "good" uber player if the majority of the people that use them hack them to be so ridiculously OP.
  
  didn't know that OU and UU are kept seperate in matchups
  assumed it's from NU to OU all mixed together.
  
  the theme of the team the cat posted is basically "Mixed"
  No real strength/weakness.
  
  tommorow will try a "fast sweep" team where even the lead just starts sweeping right away
• Singleuseonly wrote on 2010-12-21 05:38

  Quote from BobYoMeowMeow;255213:

  then, the cat has no idea what it takes to be a "good" uber player if the majority of the people that use them hack them to be so ridiculously OP.
  
  didn't know that OU and UU are kept seperate in matchups
  assumed it's from NU to OU all mixed together.
  
  the theme of the team the cat posted is basically "Mixed"
  No real strength/weakness.
  
  tommorow will try a "fast sweep" team where even the lead just starts sweeping right away

  
  
  OU is the standard which is basically everything but Ubers. However, if you were aiming for stuff like UU match-ups, OU pokemon (BL too I think) would be not be allowed.
• Ruquion wrote on 2010-12-21 08:46

  Quote from BobYoMeowMeow;254666:

  Thought item clause is no longer used
  
  6vs.6 Single
  
  Lead
  Aerodactyl @focus sash
  -rock slide
  -stealth rock
  -earthquake
  -taunt
  
  Phy Sweeper
  Metagross @ life orb
  -agility
  -meteor mash
  -earthquake
  -thunderpunch
  
  Mixed Attacker
  Gengar @ expert belt
  -Substitute
  -shadow ball
  -focus blast
  -ice punch
  
  Special Sweeper
  Gardevoir @ Custap Berry
  -Calm Mind
  -focus blast
  -shadow ball
  -will o wisp
  
  Phy Wall
  Hippowdon @ leftovers
  -slack off
  -earthquake
  -stealth rock
  -toxic
  
  Special Wall/support
  Blissey @ Shed Shell
  -wish
  -protect
  -seismic toss
  -toxic

  
  Swampert (Focus Sash)
  -Aqua Tail or Waterfall
  -Earthquake
  -Ice Punch or Avalanche
  -Brick Break
  Should counter your entire team, and IIRC, quite a few teams have a Swampert
• Teaberry wrote on 2010-12-21 08:55
  A lot of teams have a Swampert, but I don't think I've ever, ever seen a Focus Sash, 4 attack Swampert in any metagame. Also, he's noticably slower than almost every Poke in the cat's team. While he has pretty good coverage and defenses, I doubt he'd get through 2 of them before he died from their attacks.
  
  [EDIT] Ruquion does bring up a good point (by accident perhaps). While the team does use standard and useful movesets, as a whole they don't cover much. One grass attack would devastate Swampert and it's missing from your team, leaving you to sacrifice a pokemon to take it down. Meanwhile you got 3 Earthquakes, 2 SRs, and two sweepers pretty much doing the same thing.
• Ruquion wrote on 2010-12-21 12:53

  Quote from Teaberry;255426:

  A lot of teams have a Swampert, but I don't think I've ever, ever seen a Focus Sash, 4 attack Swampert in any metagame. Also, he's noticably slower than almost every Poke in the cat's team. While he has pretty good coverage and defenses, I doubt he'd get through 2 of them before he died from their attacks.

  
  Most will have Curse/Rest and Leftovers.
  But who cares, I'm weird like that.
• BobYoMeowMeow wrote on 2010-12-21 18:40

  Quote from Ruquion;255424:

  Swampert (Focus Sash)
  -Aqua Tail or Waterfall
  -Earthquake
  -Ice Punch or Avalanche
  -Brick Break
  Should counter your entire team, and IIRC, quite a few teams have a Swampert

  
  
  
  figured that Gardevoir's will o wisp is made for physical attackers like him ._.