Critical stat on Weapons

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heretic304 wrote on 2010-12-21 07:15

I was wondering... does anyone know whether the critical on the weapons are a straight percent increase? If not, I wonder what each point of critical is worth, percent-wise D:
Phoenix~Lament wrote on 2010-12-21 21:53

I have a theory that Vindictus uses mabinogi's critical system, or something like it.

If you aren't familiar with it, your character has a base critical chance and a target monster has a protection stat. These are both used to calculate your chance of landing a critical hit on the monster with the formula

(Base crit) - (Protection * 2) = Chance of landing a critical hit on that monster

Also in Mabinogi there was a hard critical hit chance cap at 30%.

The problem with Vindictus is that we don't know any monster's protection stat or even if it exists or not, unlike in Mabinogi where we had detailed stats of everything. zzzz. But I would guess that there's some kind of monster-specific stat that reduces crit chance since obviously we don't crit nearly as much as our character's stats would suggest.
heretic304 wrote on 2010-12-21 22:06

Critical hit % here can go well over 30% though, so I doubt it follows the Mabinogi style. Look at spear lanns, for instance. They have 20% from Critical Hit r7 and 22% from Fury Infusion. From what I've gathered, crits are equally likely to happen to all monsters, whether boss or not, so there's likely no Protection stat.
babohtea wrote on 2010-12-21 23:21

Quote from heretic304;255916:
Critical hit % here can go well over 30% though, so I doubt it follows the Mabinogi style. Look at spear lanns, for instance. They have 20% from Critical Hit r7 and 22% from Fury Infusion. From what I've gathered, crits are equally likely to happen to all monsters, whether boss or not, so there's likely no Protection stat.

confirmation on no protection stat: it's widely known that monsters only have defense, but damage reduc is more calculated by % rather than flat like defense was calculated in Mabi.

Regarding OP: I'm not sure, but I have a way you could try testing.
most weapons give ~20% crit (more if you upgrade past 5 but we can't so w/e). You get 3% from 180 will, and then as you said 20% from crit r7.

If weapons bonus % is additive, you should get about 43 crits out of every 100.
If not, you should get something lower. It shouldn't be too hard to test.
For those of you wondering: Will/60 = bonus crit chance from will.
Andy-Buddy wrote on 2010-12-22 00:54

Quote from babohtea;256040:
confirmation on no protection stat: it's widely known that monsters only have defense, but damage reduc is more calculated by % rather than flat like defense was calculated in Mabi.

Regarding OP: I'm not sure, but I have a way you could try testing.
most weapons give ~20% crit (more if you upgrade past 5 but we can't so w/e). You get 3% from 180 will, and then as you said 20% from crit r7.

If weapons bonus % is additive, you should get about 43 crits out of every 100.
If not, you should get something lower. It shouldn't be too hard to test.
For those of you wondering: Will/60 = bonus crit chance from will.

It's actually 0.016*Will = Bonus, or Will/62.5 for the bonus.
heretic304 wrote on 2010-12-22 06:08

Quote from babohtea;256040:
confirmation on no protection stat: it's widely known that monsters only have defense, but damage reduc is more calculated by % rather than flat like defense was calculated in Mabi.

Regarding OP: I'm not sure, but I have a way you could try testing.
most weapons give ~20% crit (more if you upgrade past 5 but we can't so w/e). You get 3% from 180 will, and then as you said 20% from crit r7.

If weapons bonus % is additive, you should get about 43 crits out of every 100.
If not, you should get something lower. It shouldn't be too hard to test.
For those of you wondering: Will/60 = bonus crit chance from will.

Well... time to go fishing then xD! (In case you're wondering why, it's because if you catch a fish and do not finish it, you can attack it and get all of your crits and whatnot, which makes it easy with hammah wahahaha)