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Kenero wrote on 2011-01-08 14:29
People are too busy on trying the "get rich fast" method, which is farming items/money. Likewise, people are too stubborn to lower prices and keep hold to old market prices.
This is the same cause for some recession and depression.
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abc33kr wrote on 2011-01-08 15:26
This is why I created a shadow mission community named Rath Republic. :D
gogo join
http://rath.forumotion.com/
and organize runs.
*currently limited to Alexina though :/
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Adelynn wrote on 2011-01-08 15:40
I switch between SMs and killing Burgundy Bears. 32K per 10 scrolls is nice, but the EXP gain is slowish, and then camping penalties, so I'll go grab some exp from an SM a few times and then go back to bears.
Rafting is pretty cool too, but not everyone can do that.
I get so annoyed by people asking for gold that are just sitting in Dunbarton all the time doing nothing. *_*
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krpr wrote on 2011-01-08 15:47
Quote from abc33kr;281881:
This is why I created a shadow mission community named Rath Republic. :D
gogo join
http://rath.forumotion.com/
and organize runs.
*currently limited to Alexina though :/
If you do that you'll have to bring up again the basic section lol
edit: LOL 9999 gold
Quote from Adelynn;281887:
I switch between SMs and killing Burgundy Bears. 32K per 10 scrolls is nice, but the EXP gain is slowish, and then camping penalties, so I'll go grab some exp from an SM a few times and then go back to bears.
Rafting is pretty cool too, but not everyone can do that.
I get so annoyed by people asking for gold that are just sitting in Dunbarton all the time doing nothing. *_*
And they dont even ask for pocket change, already got asked twice for 50k straight away.
1~5k i can spare now 50?! wtf, they don't have shame on their face?
1st thing i want to tell to a person that asks me for 50k is "hell the fu- no"
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Yanm wrote on 2011-01-08 16:10
I loved doing Albey Red back in my newbie days. I spammed it enough to make around 200-300k a day for weeks, until I nearly had 5mil. That's how I got my current Val armor. Although, I do have to admit, if it weren't for those blasted finals, and semi's, I'd probably STILL do it. There's always one somewhere and it just irritates me when I'm doing something and a friend goes, "g11 semi HM 7/8", "g10 semi adv", "g9 semi adv". Everyone is in a rush to get to them, since they're so easy and give excellent exp. It's also part of the reason why my favorite mission was Fomor Commander II Adv. 63k exp and 15k gold each time was very appealing to me and it still is. I just can't solo it, or find people to spam it with me.......
Maybe if I managed to grind enough to where I hit my cap level, I'd do Albey Red's all the time. Provocation Adv's are so much fun though....also can't forget the fact that if you host a shadow wiz int, people immediately join, then you host a shadow wiz adv, maybe 1-3 will join, and everyone else will just blink at you.
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krpr wrote on 2011-01-08 16:15
Quote from Yanm;281908:
I loved doing Albey Red back in my newbie days. I spammed it enough to make around 200-300k a day for weeks, until I nearly had 5mil. That's how I got my current Val armor. Although, I do have to admit, if it weren't for those blasted finals, and semi's, I'd probably STILL do it. There's always one somewhere and it just irritates me when I'm doing something and a friend goes, "g11 semi HM 7/8", "g10 semi adv", "g9 semi adv". Everyone is in a rush to get to them, since they're so easy and give excellent exp. It's also part of the reason why my favorite mission was Fomor Commander II Adv. 63k exp and 15k gold each time was very appealing to me and it still is. I just can't solo it, or find people to spam it with me.......
This is so true and so annoying, when im doing something else like working on carpentry or afking in dunby, there's always a semi or a final passing by through the party chat. When im at taill place waiting for a decent semi/final, absolutely nothing
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Yanm wrote on 2011-01-08 16:28
Quote from krpr;281913:
This is so true and so annoying, when im doing something else like working on carpentry or afking in dunby, there's always a semi or a final passing by through the party chat. When im at taill place waiting for a decent semi/final, absolutely nothing
THIS!!!!! Ugh, when I start to search for them, NOTHING. Or if I go to Tara to look for a g10 or g11, "g9 semi". Ugh, I don't like Golden Apple HM's, I tend to die in those at the boss no matter what, blasted 30k+ hp Boars!!!! Although, I don't blame everyone for NOT joining the Wiz Adv or Commander II Adv, those take time, much longer than a Provocation Adv, or any semi/final aside from Golden Apples. Still, I wish I'd be able to do at least one of those a day.....
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Chromatic wrote on 2011-01-08 16:31
Quote from Yanm;281920:
THIS!!!!! Ugh, when I start to search for them, NOTHING. Or if I go to Tara to look for a g10 or g11, "g9 semi". Ugh, I don't like Golden Apple HM's, I tend to die in those at the boss no matter what, blasted 30k+ hp Boars!!!! Although, I don't blame everyone for NOT joining the Wiz Adv or Commander II Adv, those take time, much longer than a Provocation Adv, or any semi/final aside from Golden Apples. Still, I wish I'd be able to do at least one of those a day.....
campfire + snake(or not) + poisoned bow
Even with rF range they will get poisoned and wont be able to touch you. Just keep on till they're almost dead and just smash them into the circle :D
I found this technique the safest in golden apples and deals the most dmg since we can only hit over 2k with a trans crit smash on those cows. While poison pretty much does that and much more
Well, safest.... unless some noob leads some other livestock near you and runs off. That one will aggro you and double aggro means death in hard golden apple
Either way, I love hardmode apples, people actually know what they're doing and not just headless chickens like people in int and adv. And im yet to see one golden apple basic ._.
I remember once in one adv i was shouting at out guy "KILL AT THE CIRCLE" when the pig still was at full hp. He ended up in killing it against the wall :pissedoff:
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Kaeporo wrote on 2011-01-08 17:43
Quote from Aiyoku;281723:
It all boils down to laziness. 80% of Mabi isn't going to red gem for gold. Instead they'll insist on suggesting crappy trades for items they want instead of getting the gold through hard work. That same 80% of Mabi isn't going to do Shadow Missions either though, so methods of making money without the use of real cash isn't the problem, the problem is the lackluster group of stooges Mabi has become. I can't speak for Ruari, Tarlach and Alexina, but Mari is a cesspool of scamming, idiocy and laziness.
You're trying though, and you've found a way to make money so I commend you. =3 It gives me hope that some people on this game still realize you can generate your own funds in this game by actually PLAYING the game.
The problem is that when you actually get a nice dungeon drop, it doesn't sell.
I'm also certain that Rafting is more efficient than Albey Red Gem.
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Chromatic wrote on 2011-01-08 18:03
Quote from Kaeporo;281963:
The problem is that when you actually get a nice dungeon drop, it doesn't sell.
I'm also certain that Rafting is more efficient than Albey Red Gem.
not with g13 coming so close. Plus i've heard from a friend that it's a pain to get tipping suits with this lag. Never really had probs getting 31 stars but then, i only raft for that amount of stars once each rb
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abc33kr wrote on 2011-01-08 18:11
I tried running albey red and i got 33.94k total (after calculating fomor scrolls)
and it took 12min 26seconds.
gotta DX at the lag.
and ima run an albey silver now then raft.
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Cryosite wrote on 2011-01-08 18:53
Thing I hate about doing Golden Apple with random people, is that people keep interfering with my blaze combo, and no one seems to understand the purpose of the huge glowing circle in the middle of the boss fight.
and double or triple aggro is meh. I found myself dealing with two cows, a boar and a deer at the same time. After I finished killing those off, I looked around me to see why I had to solo the four things and no one came to help... 'cause all 7 other people had feathers up and were watching me. o.o (I'll also mention at this point, rkD WM was more than enough. Mana shield+blaze, ~45 def and 16 protection ftw)
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sakraycore wrote on 2011-01-08 19:47
I think people underestimate the albey dungeons too much nowadays. Albey red is STILL good for money and albey silver is still good for exp imo.
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abc33kr wrote on 2011-01-08 20:24
Quote from sakraycore;282205:
I think people underestimate the albey dungeons too much nowadays. Albey red is STILL good for money and albey silver is still good for exp imo.
hmm. no wonder gameabout still lists red gem as #1 money maker while fighting.
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Wolfo wrote on 2011-01-08 21:07
Well... I farm.
...A lot.