Determining the quality of bows

• Ravendor wrote on 2011-01-09 15:57
  I wasn't sure whether to post this under questions or the life skill forums.
  
  Is the quality of bows you produce through carpentry entirely random? I'm only up to rank 7 so far so I don't know. Most of the bows I've made are crapstravaganzas save for a few. Also, is managing to sig a bow random too?
  
  The bottom line is... is there anything I can do to improve the quality of my bows? (just more ranking, more dex, etc)
  
  Thanks in advance. :thumb:
• Chromatic wrote on 2011-01-09 16:54
  It's random, and you can determine by their durability if you missed the message as you made a new one
  Usually low grade will have their current durability lower than the total one, or have the same as npc. Medium/high will have higher durability
• Ravendor wrote on 2011-01-10 02:18

  Quote from Chromatic;283642:

  It's random, and you can determine by their durability if you missed the message as you made a new one
  Usually low grade will have their current durability lower than the total one, or have the same as npc. Medium/high will have higher durability

  
  
  It's utterly random? So then would a low ranked crafter have the same chance of making a good quality bow as a r1 crafter?
• Chromatic wrote on 2011-01-10 03:52

  Quote from Ravendor;284288:

  It's utterly random? So then would a low ranked crafter have the same chance of making a good quality bow as a r1 crafter?

  
  
  uhh no, each rank will add up more stats. one r1 failure will be better than one r5 failure
  
  Im waiting for monday to make my bows, so just wait i'll post some screenshots
• Ravendor wrote on 2011-01-10 04:22

  Quote from Chromatic;284439:

  uhh no, each rank will add up more stats. one r1 failure will be better than one r5 failure
  
  Im waiting for monday to make my bows, so just wait i'll post some screenshots

  
  
  Ah, that's good to know. I'll keep perservering then. Thanks!
• Chromatic wrote on 2011-01-10 08:31
  Ok looking at the bows i did earlier
  For all bows this applies
  *skill rank bonus: balance +1* at r5
  
  Then there's the creation stuff. This is random
  
  "its done but the composite bow is of very low quality"
  -1 max, -1min, -1 max dur, -1 dur
  
  "The quality isn't that good but maybe some repairs will make it useable"
  -1 max
  
  "The quality is the same as something purchased in a store"
  Crit +1, +1 max
  
  "An composite bow thats slightly better than the common composite bow has been created"
  +2 balance, +1 crit, +1 max, +1 min, +1 max dur
  
  "An composite bow that shows off your hard work has been created"
  balance +3, crit +2, +1max, +1min, +1 max dur
  
  none came up signed, can't tell yet if they have higher stats
• Kaeporo wrote on 2011-01-10 16:50

  Quote from Ravendor;283601:

  I wasn't sure whether to post this under questions or the life skill forums.
  
  Is the quality of bows you produce through carpentry entirely random? I'm only up to rank 7 so far so I don't know. Most of the bows I've made are crapstravaganzas save for a few. Also, is managing to sig a bow random too?
  
  The bottom line is... is there anything I can do to improve the quality of my bows? (just more ranking, more dex, etc)
  
  Thanks in advance. :thumb:

  
  
  The only way to improve the quality is through ranking the skill, plus the mastery title which further increases the quality of your bows.
• radionoise wrote on 2011-01-10 21:57
  Even at r1+ title you will get pretty average bows when compared to drops most of the time... and even the really good ones turn out with only one or two stats slightly better than a drop.
  
  For example, highest drop grade for a Long Bow is 25 max (+3) with 21% crit (+3), durability can be anywhere from 11 to 19 (+1~9).
  
  The best I've seen of an r1+ master title carpenter has been 24 max (+2), 23% crit (+5) and 15 durability (+5).
  
  After watching my friends make tons of Long Bows for me, I noticed that critical and durability are higher predictors of quality than anything else, but there doesn't really seem to be anything that affects the outcome... except, perhaps, monday?
• Chromatic wrote on 2011-01-11 09:15

  Quote from radionoise;285204:

  After watching my friends make tons of Long Bows for me, I noticed that critical and durability are higher predictors of quality than anything else, but there doesn't really seem to be anything that affects the outcome... except, perhaps, monday?

  
  
  I think title only increases chance of getting fine grade bows. Though you'll have to ask crush about that, im only r5 here :I
• Crush wrote on 2011-01-12 15:02
  Quality is completely random but some of the higher ranks will make it just a bit easier to get higher quality. I forget exactly what ranks you get the balance increases but those help just a bit. The biggest noticable change is when you get rank 1 and get the extra dura bonus. After you get master title you are far more consistant getting higher quality bows, but at the same time it doesnt make bows that you cant make without the title.
  
  Hope this helps
• Chromatic wrote on 2011-01-17 11:00
  I totally missed the stats message, however there is another one saying something about the quality of the bow being godly
  
  +1 min, +2 max , +5 balance, +2 dura, +3 crit if we compare it with the npc one
  
  and just 10 more bows for r4:glare: