South Korea and Japan Agree on First-Ever Military Pact

• Tatsu wrote on 2011-01-11 14:26
  ...How strong is Japan's military anyway? The only thing I've heard about them is that their infantry were well-trained. That's... about it.
• EienNoTsubasa wrote on 2011-01-11 21:03

  Quote from Cynic;285654:

  Dictatorship is so different from Communism it isn't even funny.

  
  
  fix'd
  
  Communism only exists on paper, since it doesn't take human nature into account; everybody on the street is a goody two-shoes. They HAVE no government. Dictatorship is completely different because it's one person or a small group taking total control and this type of government can exist both on paper AND in reality.
  
  For most people, communism = dictatorship because everybody that's attempted communism has completely failed. They've either turned to capitalism, dictatorship, or collapsed.
• Cucurbita wrote on 2011-01-11 22:38
  Communism, but theory, is paradise in which everyone gives it their best and contributes to society in a equal manner, and is all given equal opportunities.
  The Government exists, but only to regulate equality.
  
  But this theory is absolutely impossible in humanity's society.
  
  China is still a pretty strong example of Communism that is somewhat working. But its more so half communist half capitalism, so its not really communism anyways.
• BobYoMeowMeow wrote on 2011-01-12 02:13

  Quote from Tatsu;286349:

  ...How strong is Japan's military anyway? The only thing I've heard about them is that their infantry were well-trained. That's... about it.

  
  
  Japan can't have a large military
  because of their treaty with US after WW2 where they can't spend more than 1% of their budget on military
  which in the cat's opinion
  which was really effective for the reconstruction of Japan
  today
  Japan outdoes the United States in terms of technology (and so does 10 other countries)
• Cucurbita wrote on 2011-01-12 02:14

  Quote from BobYoMeowMeow;286970:

  Japan can't have a large military
  because of their treaty with US after WW2 where they can't spend more than 1% of their budget on military

  
  
  This is bull****.
  
  Americans believe this crap.
  
  They've got plenty of missiles and a solid navy.
• Lan wrote on 2011-01-12 02:15
  So...I can expect news of an assassination attempt in the coming weeks?
• Cucurbita wrote on 2011-01-12 02:17

  Quote from Lan;286980:

  So...I can expect news of an assassination attempt in the coming weeks?

  
  
  Theres already been dozens of attempts to maim the Japanese prime minister BEFORE this.
• Lan wrote on 2011-01-12 02:17

  Quote from Cucurbita;286983:

  Theres already been dozens of attempts to maim the Japanese prime minister BEFORE this.

  
  
  Wasn't he the one that likes anime?
• Cucurbita wrote on 2011-01-12 02:19

  Quote from Lan;286984:

  Wasn't he the one that likes anime?

  
  
  He doesn't "like" anime, but he understands the value it has on Japan so he tried to promote it.
  
  He's Japanese public enemy number one due to his passive stance on the Senkaku Islands issue.
• Lan wrote on 2011-01-12 02:52

  The 2010 Senkaku Boat Collision Incident (or the Minjinyu 5179 Incident) occurred on September 7, 2010, when Chinese trawler Minjinyu 5179 collided with Japanese Coast Guard's patrol boat near the Senkaku Islands.
  Several JCG boats were involved, including Yonakuni and Mizuki, which collided with Minjinyu5179, plus Hateruma and other JCG boats.
  The collision and Japan's subsequent detention of the skipper (Zhan Qixiong) resulted in a major diplomatic dispute between China and Japan. When China's repeated demands for the release of the skipper were ignored and the detention of the skipper was extended for another 10 days, the Chinese government canceled official meetings of ministrial level or above. It was reported (though China repeatedly denied this) that China halted exports of rare earth minerals to Japan[1].
  The detained Chinese crew members were released without charge and were allowed to return to home. The overall event is perceived as a diplomatic victory in China[2], while it raised a wide-spread criticism toward Japanese government's "weak-kneed" handling of the issue in Japan[3

  
  
  That?
• Cucurbita wrote on 2011-01-12 04:42
  Thats one of them.
  And no, that refers to an incident that happened in Senkaku.
  
  The Senkaku Islands are several small islands that are very small and barely habitable down south between Japan and China. There is terrority disputes, which both countries take very seriously.
  
  By being passive on the topic the prime minister has more or less lost favor with most of the Japanese citizens.
  
  Liancourt Rocks are also small islands that are in between Korea and Japan. Same thing here. Territory disputes.
  
  These rocks are serious business. Claim over them gives you control of the waters in the area, which can be a huge leverage in world power, politics, fishing, oil pumping, etc. And of course, no one ever wants to just give away land (cept North Korea, who is constantly offering parts of their northern lands to China as a bribe, seriously pissing off the South Koreans since they believe one day they North and South will unite into one nation and the North's land is more or less their land).
  
  The biggest reason for confusion here is that a bit before World War 2, Japan was already busy raping the **** out of half of Eastern Asia. They took over Korea and a solid chunk of China, and then pillaged everything.
  
  And of course, after America nuked Japan to oblivion, things became very difficult when deciding the reclamation process.
  
  It ALSO makes it difficult to decide because Japan, Korea, and China are actually pretty infamous for invading. Asia is a continent with lots of blood in its history. When it comes to land, there were times when Korea owned half the continent, then Japan, then China, and it flips around dozens of times. Its pretty ridiculous.
  
  How are you supposed to decide exactly what the "original territory" is, when the territories were almost always changing?
• BobYoMeowMeow wrote on 2011-01-12 07:12
  well
  the cat thought the pact was weird at first
  since ASEAN was a joke