Effect of G13 on Mabinogi's Market?

• Transcendence wrote on 2011-01-13 04:26
  So I've been doing some thinking about G13.
  
  There will be an influx of very valuable enchants that replace the current endgame enchants.
  
  Some of these enchants (such as Vast) are easily obtained and thus would rival similar damage boosting enchants (such as Metal & Wooden Needle), and would in turn, drop the value of such existing enchants.
  
  Also, I've noticed that there are Boss Requirements for the new Weapon Masteries. I know the Boss Requirement, even at Rank 1, are not that "bad". Will it still increase the demand of -CP equipment?
  
  Also, I've noticed people mentioning that relatively expensive/rare items/weapons (IE. equipment from Peaca Int xD) will start dropping from relatively easy dungeons/SMs. I know for sure that this will deflate the price of existing items. But by how much?
  
  I dunno xD. If you don't mind, could you post any new insight on new monster/SM/dungeon drops (of both existing and new items)?
• Cide wrote on 2011-01-13 04:32
  the peaca int items (and, as far as JP wiki confirms, it seems to be ONLY the highlander longbow) drop from theater mission end chests, not dungeons or sms.
  
  as for me, i plan on shelling out a lot of cash for the new clothing sets. Q AQ
• EndlessDreams wrote on 2011-01-13 04:33
  It takes a huge amount of CP to not even find any boss monsters in hard mode shadow missions. Most people with that much CP (2k+) usually have a cp set or know someone to borrow some already.
  
  Impossible to say how much X item deflate when noone know how common they will be, and how much will be in future markets.
• gentrone wrote on 2011-01-13 05:35

  Quote from Transcendence;288728:

  So I've been doing some thinking about G13.
  
  There will be an influx of very valuable enchants that replace the current endgame enchants.
  
  Some of these enchants (such as Vast) are easily obtained and thus would rival similar damage boosting enchants (such as Metal & Wooden Needle), and would in turn, drop the value of such existing enchants.
  
  Also, I've noticed that there are Boss Requirements for the new Weapon Masteries. I know the Boss Requirement, even at Rank 1, are not that "bad". Will it still increase the demand of -CP equipment?
  
  Also, I've noticed people mentioning that relatively expensive/rare items/weapons (IE. equipment from Peaca Int xD) will start dropping from relatively easy dungeons/SMs. I know for sure that this will deflate the price of existing items. But by how much?
  
  I dunno xD. If you don't mind, could you post any new insight on new monster/SM/dungeon drops (of both existing and new items)?

  
  
  Haha. Interesting questions indeed. It all depends, but you'll wanna look at this in order to understand how price changes.
  
  If new skills require boss kills then -CP items demand and supply curves will shift.
  
  I cannot predict/explain Mabinomics because I don't have the actual numbers.
• Jando wrote on 2011-01-13 05:46
  Raven Boots will become worthless. I'm seriously just gonna enchant Viscount over Raven.
• radionoise wrote on 2011-01-13 05:53
  I certainly hope Vast will be affordable, Wooden Needle is expensive and wasn't nearly as optimal for range as it was for melee.
  
  Dexterity enchant will hopefully lower the price of Delusional caps, which is good news for those of us who want a safe and inexpensive damage suffix for bows.
• Kaeporo wrote on 2011-01-13 06:10
  The price of flashy dye should increase somewhat. The fashion whores will naturally want to continue discriminating against players that have epilepsy.
• Offspring wrote on 2011-01-13 06:36

  Quote from Kaeporo;288823:

  The price of flashy dye should increase somewhat. The fashion whores will naturally want to continue discriminating against players that have epilepsy.

  
  :thumb:
• Sunureu13 wrote on 2011-01-13 06:50

  Quote from Jando;288792:

  Raven Boots will become worthless. I'm seriously just gonna enchant Viscount over Raven.

  
  
  I hope you'll be enchanting Inconvenient over it instead.
• Animefreak97 wrote on 2011-01-13 07:28

  Quote from Jando;288792:

  Raven Boots will become worthless. I'm seriously just gonna enchant Viscount over Raven.

  
  Hopefully Viscount will have a good chance appearing in the 51 Star Reward List due to the removal of the ego raft/balloon glitch.
  And what about 2/1 Boots instead because of the Defense lost from Clothes.
  
  

  Quote from radionoise;288806:

  I certainly hope Vast will be affordable.

  
  I'm pretty sure this will happened as Vast drops from a well spammed SM, hopefully I can get atleast 3, 1 for me and 2 of my friends. Then the rest for profit, and I also have heard the drop rate is around Giant and Water Drop ES which is 1 every 10ish runs maybe or even less which is good to hear.
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  And I've also heard that pretty much most of the Peaca Int items will drop in Int+ Theatre Missions hopes I can get Dual Falcata's or something good :D
• radionoise wrote on 2011-01-13 08:01
  There's also an alternative to Viscount called Hawk... it only gives 5 max damage, but has a chance to give 3 attack speed points.
  
  Using Hawk on Chinese Dragon Boots and Owl suffix (Earnest/Elegant alternative) on Chinese Dragon Gauntlets could activate the Attack Speed effect, finally giving elves their much needed 15% aim bonus with only two pieces of the Chinese Dragon set.
  
  Edit: I hope the gauntlets don't suddenly get a surge in price now D:
• GlyphZero wrote on 2011-01-14 18:48

  Using Hawk on Chinese Dragon Boots and Owl suffix (Earnest/Elegant alternative) on Chinese Dragon Gauntlets could activate the Attack Speed effect, finally giving elves their much needed 15% aim bonus with only two pieces of the Chinese Dragon set.

  
  
  just wondering, i have a fullset of ch dragon and had an archer test multiple attacks on mobs and self. he's human of course but we saw no change in aim speed/stun time/reload/load time at all, is that 15% supposed to be elf only?
• radionoise wrote on 2011-01-14 19:06

  Quote from GlyphZero;290262:

  just wondering, i have a fullset of ch dragon and had an archer test multiple attacks on mobs and self. he's human of course but we saw no change in aim speed/stun time/reload/load time at all, is that 15% supposed to be elf only?

  
  
  I imagine it's available to both races... then again, the wiki might be wrong, and being an elf I can't test whether or not the set does really give 15% aim speed boost, since elves don't have access to a complete one yet.
• M wrote on 2011-01-14 19:21

  Quote from radionoise;290276:

  I imagine it's available to both races... then again, the wiki might be wrong, and being an elf I can't test whether or not the set does really give 15% aim speed boost, since elves don't have access to a complete one yet.

  
  
  It's supposed to be for both races. I certainly intend to get it for my human archer lol Btw do you (or anyone) know where the Owl suffix drops? Was also looking at a suffix called "wealthy" that gives 15 dex and 15 stam for gloves, any idea on that one? :) If not I can just post another thread somewhere.. :P
• radionoise wrote on 2011-01-14 19:34

  Quote from Maia;290292:

  It's supposed to be for both races. I certainly intend to get it for my human archer lol Btw do you (or anyone) know where the Owl suffix drops? Was also looking at a suffix called "wealthy" that gives 15 dex and 15 stam for gloves, any idea on that one? :) If not I can just post another thread somewhere.. :P

  
  
  A few enchants don't really have any information as to where to get them, neither in the database nor in mabidata... I imagine that no one had found them at the time the information was compiled. I guess it'd be good to find out where some of these drop from (Relax, Static, Owl, etc...)
  
  As for Owl, I'm hoping it comes from ballooning or rafting... considering Hawk and Viscount do.