Dungeon Fighter Online Discussion

• Shanghai wrote on 2010-06-09 08:09
  Witch Question: Should I rank up Magic Festival? In order to do that, I need the 4 basic Elemental skills. I'm going for a light/fire/ice(prioritized in that order) build. More PvE oriented. Here's my new planned skill build after the Lethe Bell's effects. I'm a Level 37(38? It's been awhile since I last played) Witch.
  
  Lvl 50 build:http://www.aradsociety.com/planner/?class=witch#050:uLe9PbuEbvMbvQf0TbuDbvSh0UbuObxKcxMixLkxRdxOdxNkyAkxShxUbxWfyBhxYhxXiyGgyEdyFd
  
  Lvl 60 Build(SP saved for Awakening):http://www.aradsociety.com/planner/?class=witch#160:uLe9PbuEbvMbvQf0TbuDbvSi0UbuObxKcxMixLkxRdxOdxNkyAkxSkxUbxWfyBjxYjxXkyGlyEiyFi
  
  I can remove some levels from skills since they're all just upgrades to their main attack power, but not EMM because I freaking love it so much.
• Cucurbita wrote on 2010-06-09 08:27

  Quote from Shanghai;58685:

  Witch Question: Should I rank up Magic Festival? In order to do that, I need the 4 basic Elemental skills. I'm going for a light/fire/ice(prioritized in that order) build. More PvE oriented. Here's my new planned skill build after the Lethe Bell's effects. I'm a Level 37(38? It's been awhile since I last played) Witch.
  
  Lvl 50 build:AradSociety - Skill Planner
  
  Lvl 60 Build(SP saved for Awakening):AradSociety - Skill Planner
  
  I can remove some levels from skills since they're all just upgrades to their main attack power, but not EMM because I freaking love it so much.

  
  
  Your build is a total mess. I hope you haven't already advanced as a witch because you ruined it.
  
  I'll explain more after a very long nice sleep.
  
  But here is the gist of it: Your damage is gonna suck. Focus on two elements only. This is LAW when it comes to witches. If you exceed two elements, your damage WILL suck.
• Piko wrote on 2010-06-09 08:40
  Female Gunner is releasing finally :D /late in saying this.
  
  I dunno whether or not to get back into the game since it's troublesome to manage playing multiple MMOs at the same time :/ Can anyone give me advice and etc. as far as skill building and etc.? O3o; I'm completely noob when it comes to skill building. I also kinda suck when it comes to skill key placement since it's been hard getting used to moving my fingers around on the keyboard to use them while trying to dodge enemies.
  
  Edit : Just reading about Avatars makes me fear my future if I end up spamming NX for good Attack Speed avatars and etc. D:
• Cucurbita wrote on 2010-06-09 22:27

  Quote from Pikablu;58693:

  Female Gunner is releasing finally :D /late in saying this.
  
  I dunno whether or not to get back into the game since it's troublesome to manage playing multiple MMOs at the same time :/ Can anyone give me advice and etc. as far as skill building and etc.? O3o; I'm completely noob when it comes to skill building. I also kinda suck when it comes to skill key placement since it's been hard getting used to moving my fingers around on the keyboard to use them while trying to dodge enemies.
  
  Edit : Just reading about Avatars makes me fear my future if I end up spamming NX for good Attack Speed avatars and etc. D:

  
  
  Buy it with gold.
  The only NX you'll ever spend is on a shop license so you can sell your purps and make enough gold for some speed avis.
  
  For builds, you really have to tell me:
  
  PVP or Dungeon? I'm not going to take "Hybrid" as an answer. Its either going to be DPS (for dungeon) or Pokes and Functionality (for PVP)
  Which subclass?
• Mrlucky77 wrote on 2010-06-09 22:33

  Quote from Margatroid;58324:

  Could really use the help of someone in level 38+
  
  Some of these dungeons are a real pain the solo, and Majikaru lost his password and ended up starting a new character.

  
  
  I'll join ya on weekends!
  
  Also I'm already in a guild so =[
  
  Also, whaddaya think of my bulid guys?
  
  http://www.aradsociety.com/planner/#050:uFj9PbuGbuJl0TbuHfuNbxJb0UbuRfuXbvCbxLguWbwAcwBfvYfuKbwEbxGfwDbwIbwMbxMbuSb
• Cucurbita wrote on 2010-06-09 22:42

  Quote from Mrlucky77;59257:

  I'll join ya on weekends!
  
  Also I'm already in a guild so =[
  
  Also, whaddaya think of my bulid guys?
  
  AradSociety - Skill Planner

  
  
  Your SP remaining build does not amuse me.
  
  Looks like a PVP build?
  
  Don't get Seismic punch unless you plan on MAXING IT OUT.
  
  Don't get intense takedown unless you plan on Team PVP often or just Dungeoning.
  
  Level up Irresistible grab and sliding grab.. FOR SURE.
  
  Put some levels into your skills for damage.
• Mrlucky77 wrote on 2010-06-09 22:51

  Quote from Margatroid;59268:

  Your SP remaining build does not amuse me.
  
  Looks like a PVP build?
  
  Don't get Seismic punch unless you plan on MAXING IT OUT.
  
  Don't get intense takedown unless you plan on Team PVP often or just Dungeoning.
  
  Level up Irresistible grab and sliding grab.. FOR SURE.
  
  Put some levels into your skills for damage.

  
  
  Oh crap, this is wrong build. That was just keeping track of current skills. And it isn't even up to date.
  
  AradSociety - Skill Planner
  
  THIS is the real build. ><
• Piko wrote on 2010-06-09 22:52
  Definitely Going one character for PvP and another for Dungeoning. Both Rangers (One Female, One Male, or Both Female). TEACH ME WISE ONE D:
• Tedio wrote on 2010-06-09 23:39
  Ah? what guild should I join?
  
  I'm gonna be on my monk more since he apparently gets a SP reset.
• Shanghai wrote on 2010-06-09 23:39

  Quote from Margatroid;58689:

  Your build is a total mess. I hope you haven't already advanced as a witch because you ruined it.
  
  I'll explain more after a very long nice sleep.
  
  But here is the gist of it: Your damage is gonna suck. Focus on two elements only. This is LAW when it comes to witches. If you exceed two elements, your damage WILL suck.

  
  
  Ok, then I'll just stick to my Fire/Light PVE build I guess. These are my CURRENTLY raised skills(Lvl38.) as of right now. I'll post a future build for the Level 50 cap later.
  
  AradSociety - Skill Planner
  
  Since I have the Lethe's Bell, I can use it to undo some skills that seem too highly leveled up. Any suggestions?
  
  'Nother question: Should I raise Mega Drill or not? I recall you saying that every Witch should get it, but it seems too weak since I didn't raise that Jack Frost passive skill where it increases it's success rates.
  
  New skill build without Mega Drill:http://www.aradsociety.com/planner/?class=witch#050:uLe9PbuEbuPbuRbvMbvQf0TbuDbuQbuSbvSi0UbuObxKbxMbxLkxRdxOdxNkuCfyApxSkxUbxWfyBfxYbxXhyGgyFd
  
  Skill Build with Mega Drill:http://www.aradsociety.com/planner/?class=witch#050:uLe9PbuEbuPbuRbvMbvQf0TbuDbuQbuSbvSf0UbuObxKbxMbxLkxRdxOdxNkuCfyApxSkxUbxWfyBhxYfxXfyGgyEdyFd
• Cucurbita wrote on 2010-06-10 00:15

  Quote from Mrlucky77;59276:

  Oh crap, this is wrong build. That was just keeping track of current skills. And it isn't even up to date.
  
  AradSociety - Skill Planner
  
  THIS is the real build. ><

  
  
  Iron Physique isn't that great... Intense Takedown is a Dungeon skill that increases splash radius and damage...
  Cancel Seismic is probably unnecessary...
  
  You probably want to level up Irresistible Grab more...
  
  Sand Splash is really worthless for grapplers so remove it.
  
  

  Quote from Pikablu;59279:

  Definitely Going one character for PvP and another for Dungeoning. Both Rangers (One Female, One Male, or Both Female). TEACH ME WISE ONE D:

  
  
  PVP build:
  AradSociety - Skill Planner
  
  Optional:
  Land Runner for zoning.
  Increased level in G14 Buster for larger explosion area.
  Windmill level for damage.
  Steyr AMR for easy combo (not recommended since its 60SP)
  Level Up any of the following: Revenger, Multi Head Shot, Wild Shot. For sure.
  Death Hawk is a zoning attack. Whether you get it or not is a choice.
  
  DO NOT GET ACTIVE AWAKENING. Its no good for a pvp build. Though you should probably awaken for that free level in sudden death.
  
  

  Quote from Gargamaru;59315:

  Ah? what guild should I join?
  
  I'm gonna be on my monk more since he apparently gets a SP reset.

  
  
  ZERGLINGS.
  
  MY GUILD.
  
  

  Quote from Shanghai;59317:

  Ok, then I'll just stick to my Fire/Light PVE build I guess. These are my CURRENTLY raised skills(Lvl38.) as of right now. I'll post a future build for the Level 50 cap later.
  
  AradSociety - Skill Planner
  
  Since I have the Lethe's Bell, I can use it to undo some skills that seem too highly leveled up. Any suggestions?
  
  'Nother question: Should I raise Mega Drill or not? I recall you saying that every Witch should get it, but it seems too weak since I didn't raise that Jack Frost passive skill where it increases it's success rates.
  
  New skill build without Mega Drill:AradSociety - Skill Planner
  
  Skill Build with Mega Drill:AradSociety - Skill Planner

  
  
  Festival is a bad idea on witch. I mean, its not bad, but unless you plan on getting level 10, forget it.
  Max Mana Shield. Your MP Conversion is very important here, especially since Witches have a high chance of getting hit during their attacks.
  
  "Two Element Build" means you shouldn't have any sp spent at all on the Friendlies of the element you didn't count.
  
  So for a Fire and Light build, remove Befriend Pluto and Befriend Frosty. Forget all about Snow Dust, Acid Rain, and Mega Drill. Get Manteau for sure, but keep it at level 1 and don't get Flyswatter. Manteau will be purely for avoiding attacks and grabbing enemies.
  
  For PVE, Death Dust tends to be better anyways, so get 1 point in that. If you want, you can keep 1 point in snow dust for cool down alternations.
  
  Not a huge fan of Ancient Library but I see where you're coming from. So we'll keep that.
  
  Your build should look something like this. AradSociety - Skill Planner
  
  If you're confused at why, just look at the "Sleeper Success Rate" on each attack, the difference in damage by the levels, and the difference in success rate by the friendlies, and where all your SP went.
  
  Without max level friendlies, your sleeper success rate will be very poor. Witches have a natural damage disadvantage even WITH a success compared to other classes, meaning you need to score a sleeper success to actually do more DPS. And since Witch's attacks are fixed damage, your character's stat growth will actually not make a significant impact on your skill damage.
  
  The only true way to increase your skill damage is to increase your skill level.
• Majikaru wrote on 2010-06-10 00:50
  Adding on the Kitae, get at least elbow shock level 1. That thing helps a LOT. Especially against a wall, since you can link fling after it, for a nice combo.
• Mrlucky77 wrote on 2010-06-10 00:59

  Quote from Majikaru;59361:

  Adding on the Kitae, get at least elbow shock level 1. That thing helps a LOT. Especially against a wall, since you can link fling after it, for a nice combo.

  
  
  I know, I just forgot to add it.
• Shanghai wrote on 2010-06-10 01:28

  Quote from Margatroid;59330:

  Festival is a bad idea on witch. I mean, its not bad, but unless you plan on getting level 10, forget it.
  Max Mana Shield. Your MP Conversion is very important here, especially since Witches have a high chance of getting hit during their attacks.
  
  "Two Element Build" means you shouldn't have any sp spent at all on the Friendlies of the element you didn't count.
  
  So for a Fire and Light build, remove Befriend Pluto and Befriend Frosty. Forget all about Snow Dust, Acid Rain, and Mega Drill. Get Manteau for sure, but keep it at level 1 and don't get Flyswatter. Manteau will be purely for avoiding attacks and grabbing enemies.
  
  For PVE, Death Dust tends to be better anyways, so get 1 point in that. If you want, you can keep 1 point in snow dust for cool down alternations.
  
  Not a huge fan of Ancient Library but I see where you're coming from. So we'll keep that.
  
  Your build should look something like this. AradSociety - Skill Planner
  
  If you're confused at why, just look at the "Sleeper Success Rate" on each attack, the difference in damage by the levels, and the difference in success rate by the friendlies, and where all your SP went.
  
  Without max level friendlies, your sleeper success rate will be very poor. Witches have a natural damage disadvantage even WITH a success compared to other classes, meaning you need to score a sleeper success to actually do more DPS. And since Witch's attacks are fixed damage, your character's stat growth will actually not make a significant impact on your skill damage.
  
  The only true way to increase your skill damage is to increase your skill level.

  
  
  I understand the Magic Festival part, wastes SP and I never really use it. Iono, but I'm gonna keep Flyswatter since I always used it as an ending combo to Broomstick Control's Attacks.(Also cuz I pvp every now and then) Everything else seems okay to me. Before I reset my skills and use some SP on Flyswatter, is the 151 SP needed to max out other important skills?
  
  EDIT: Should Shuuruu be advanced in skill level any more? I don't see the point of leveling it up anymore since Jackyl is her damage skill.
• Cucurbita wrote on 2010-06-10 02:07

  Quote from Shanghai;59391:

  I understand the Magic Festival part, wastes SP and I never really use it. Iono, but I'm gonna keep Flyswatter since I always used it as an ending combo to Broomstick Control's Attacks.(Also cuz I pvp every now and then) Everything else seems okay to me. Before I reset my skills and use some SP on Flyswatter, is the 151 SP needed to max out other important skills?
  
  EDIT: Should Shuuruu be advanced in skill level any more? I don't see the point of leveling it up anymore since Jackyl is her damage skill.

  
  
  Flyswatter is technically one of the witch's better attacks, but there are two things it really boasts besides the attack.
  
  1. The ability to Curse.
  2. The ability to spawn monsters.
  
  Ability 1 is worthless without having the skill at max level. If you do not max it all the way, you are wasting the potential that this skill offers. IF you really want this skill for a combo ender, just keep it at level 1, or go ALL OUT.
  
  Ability 2 makes this skill more and more dangerous as you go in to a higher level. Because failure rate is massive without Befriend Pluto, you will constantly summon high level hunters that will attack you. HUNTERS SUCK ASS.
  
  This is pretty much why Witches should try to avoid skills that they don't have masteries in. Its because
  1. They come with a status debuff which only works if you keep leveling it.
  2. They bite you in the ass if it fails, and failure happens a lot without befriend maxed.
  
  Having 1 point in Flyswatter is fine. But no more. Unless you decide to become a dark build.
  
  Also, Shururu should stay at level 5 until the Witch update patch. For now, he is terribly useless, and Jackyl's explosion is something you actually want asap, so keep him as weak as possible.
  
  Once the Witch update patch comes out, you can detonate him whenever you want, so his high hp at higher levels don't matter. Also, with the patch he'll gain the ability to attract champion and boss level enemies at level 10 and 15. AND his enemy magic defense debuff becomes about 1500 points more powerful. So save your SP until then.