Farming Act 4 Scene 3 of G13 Hamlet

• sakraycore wrote on 2011-02-10 16:27

  Quote from kingofrunes;329021:

  Well ain't this interesting. I finished G13 so I'll stick to other methods. Is it a bad thing that it takes me 20-25 minutes to solo SCC HM at 3k total level?

  
  
  I don't think it's bad but it's not a very efficient way to gain exp if it takes you that long. I have a feeling most people claim their SCC clear time when they have pally and have adniel anyways which limits that spamming by quite a bit.
• Taliya wrote on 2011-02-10 16:33

  Quote from sakraycore;329083:

  I don't think it's bad but it's not a very efficient way to gain exp if it takes you that long. I have a feeling most people claim their SCC clear time when they have pally and have adniel anyways which limits that spamming by quite a bit.

  
  
  If you're a giant, like myself, the two go hand in hand. If you can adniel then do so. If you can't then you trans. My GFS wipes out all the clones in a single blow.
• Kyouriharu wrote on 2011-02-10 16:38
  I used to grind Act 4 Scene 3 myself but the rendering time and the cut scene skip time made it a little undesirable. Not to mention that it got bring around the 20 minute mark.
• EndlessDreams wrote on 2011-02-10 16:48

  Quote from sakraycore;329083:

  I don't think it's bad but it's not a very efficient way to gain exp if it takes you that long. I have a feeling most people claim their SCC clear time when they have pally and have adniel anyways which limits that spamming by quite a bit.

  
  
  I just switch between Adniel and Crash Shot. Adniel just takes slightly longer, but it hurts the main boss as well. Crash Shot has no cooldown and safe.
  
  To clear SCC HM in 20-25 minutes means you are messing up somewhere really bad though. Maybe the clones were respawning on him because he didn't kill main boss fast enough?
  
  I used to run SCC in around 15-20 minutes because I wasted too much time doing smashes/CS/WM combinations. Now, I can consistently run them in deadly in around 10-13 minutes by just straight WMing melee monsters, and CS on archers in 2+ archer groups.
• sakraycore wrote on 2011-02-10 17:11

  Now, I can consistently run them in deadly in around 10-13 minutes by just straight WMing melee monsters, and CS on archers in 2+ archer groups.

  
  
  You run it in deadly? XD
  
  How do you kill dopple in deadly :O
• Zid wrote on 2011-02-10 22:52

  Quote from sakraycore;329101:

  You run it in deadly? XD
  
  How do you kill dopple in deadly :O

  
  
  Adniel the clones (or whatever you want with them), then Smashmill the Doppelganger dead with a pet ramming.
  
  Deadly-state WM rushing through SCC HM solo is fast and very doable if you melee all the time, provided you are sharp on not making a single error.
• Roy Mustang wrote on 2011-02-11 00:15

  Quote from EndlessDreams;329093:

  I just switch between Adniel and Crash Shot. Adniel just takes slightly longer, but it hurts the main boss as well. Crash Shot has no cooldown and safe.
  
  To clear SCC HM in 20-25 minutes means you are messing up somewhere really bad though. Maybe the clones were respawning on him because he didn't kill main boss fast enough?
  
  I used to run SCC in around 15-20 minutes because I wasted too much time doing smashes/CS/WM combinations. Now, I can consistently run them in deadly in around 10-13 minutes by just straight WMing melee monsters, and CS on archers in 2+ archer groups.

  
  
  I don't Spam Windmill. For the Dopple I can't spam wm on it w/o it spawning clones at the beginning and I can't wm fast enough to kill it before the clones hit me and if I'm in deadly it's game over. Thus I run it by spamming defense and N+1 and start each spawn with a One Hit KO smash or smash + down attack + wm and then the occasional wm or two. I will also use fh as well to wipe out some of the mobs.
  
  I usually get to the Ghost by the 10 minute mark. From there it takes me anywhere from 7-12 minutes to finish up. Fastest I did today was 17min run and that was with Adniel + Normal Spears of Light with DemiGod + Fury of Light + Spam WM on the Dopple.
• Cookies wrote on 2011-02-11 00:23
  Act 4 scene 3 is very spammable with cutscene skip and windmill with the help of dual gladii/enchants pushing your minimum damage up to the ~400 range.
  It doesn't even hurt to die in it when you get a sudden lag spike while being in deadly if you have service and revive in town with 0 exp penalty.
  
  Also you don't have to leave one of the cloakers, the cutscene doesn't come up until ~8 seconds after the last cloaker is killed.
• Username wrote on 2011-02-11 00:28

  Quote from EndlessDreams;329093:

  I just switch between Adniel and Crash Shot. Adniel just takes slightly longer, but it hurts the main boss as well. Crash Shot has no cooldown and safe.
  
  To clear SCC HM in 20-25 minutes means you are messing up somewhere really bad though. Maybe the clones were respawning on him because he didn't kill main boss fast enough?
  
  I used to run SCC in around 15-20 minutes because I wasted too much time doing smashes/CS/WM combinations. Now, I can consistently run them in deadly in around 10-13 minutes by just straight WMing melee monsters, and CS on archers in 2+ archer groups.

  
  
  It also really depends on if you use your mounts to move to location to location and aswell your fighting skillset. Pointing out the obvious but it takes me 20-25 minutes. I never tried hardmode without people, but 20-25minutes sounds right for me. I should consider Golem for this.
• Taliya wrote on 2011-02-11 15:51

  Quote from Cookies;329689:

  Act 4 scene 3 is very spammable with cutscene skip and windmill with the help of dual gladii/enchants pushing your minimum damage up to the ~400 range.
  It doesn't even hurt to die in it when you get a sudden lag spike while being in deadly if you have service and revive in town with 0 exp penalty.
  
  Also you don't have to leave one of the cloakers, the cutscene doesn't come up until ~8 seconds after the last cloaker is killed.

  
  
  Sounds like people have to mod their client in order to make this way of training decent. With that being said, I'd consider this red deep in illegitimacy.
• qaccy wrote on 2011-02-12 06:55

  Quote from Taliya;330914:

  Sounds like people have to mod their client in order to make this way of training decent. With that being said, I'd consider this red deep in illegitimacy.

  
  
  Not really...even if you skip the cutscenes manually, it's still about a minute per run max. This includes selecting the mission, the time it takes to actually skip the cutscene, the time spent killing all 6 cloakers, and the time exiting/loading Avon to start it again. And it only takes a minute if the cloakers spawn spread out and you can only WM maybe 2 max.
  
  With service, they give 2695+875 exp on HM. That's 3570 exp per kill, 21420 exp per run. If it takes max of a minute per run, that's still a minimum of almost 215k exp/10 minutes without pots.
  
  As has been said in other posts, there's better ways to get exp. But there's still people who spam Their Method as opposed to SCC, simply because SCC requires more skill. (inb4 omg what SCC is easy learn2play noob) Easy outweighs (or equals) better for some people, and this is definitely easy.
  
  Myself...I'm too lazy to learn how to run SCC effectively (for starters, I lack bow skills and have relatively mediocre enchants), so I'll stick with this.
• Cryosite wrote on 2011-02-12 08:29

  Quote from Taliya;330914:

  Sounds like people have to mod their client in order to make this way of training decent. With that being said, I'd consider this red deep in illegitimacy.

  
  
  "Cut scene skip" involves pressing your escape key then clicking "ok" on the little window that pops up asking if you wish to skip the cutscene. If there were a mod, it would save you maybe 3 seconds per run. I can understand being wary of mods giving advantages, but seriously? No one even mentioned mods and you're jumping to that conclusion?
• Cythereaa wrote on 2011-02-12 12:28
  I just completely frigged this glitch up today, and went on to the next mission. I almost shed a tear, really, honestly...... This was complete HAX exp. I recommend everyone whom hasnt finished G13 up to this point to just hold off and spam it like a lunatic. Now that i've screwed it up and can no longer do it, I strongly dont recommend it be patched just because I can no longer partake in the goodies.
  
  
  People who recommend this be patched are either A) in the same boat as me, or B) have already finished G13 without being able to take advantage of this awesome exp loophole.
  
  
  
  I strongly recommend all those who can take advantage of it, take advantage of it! Get stronger!! Get some awesome exp and wicked AP!! You DESERVE IT!!
• Aubog007 wrote on 2011-02-12 12:36
  Double rainbow + 2x pots.
  Yes.Yes.
• Iyasenu wrote on 2011-02-12 12:41

  Quote from Aubog007;332036:

  Double rainbow + 2x pots.
  Yes.Yes.

  
  
  Lol I pictured M. Bison for a second. xD
  
  This exp would be intense, yep yep.