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Aubog007 wrote on 2011-01-27 11:50
Any alchemist ever tinker around with max damage enchants and alchemy in general?
From what i was told, Max damage enchants were not even worth using at all compared to other counterparts. While using Sand Burst and Flame Burst to rank respective alchemy skills, the damage output increased tremendously. Also used Flame Burst Enhancement set and it was doing slightly LESS damage with 5 charges than my max damage set.
Also took off both sets and they did 120-150 less max damage flame burst than either sets.
Just curious if any alchemists who have a max damage set can try.
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Taliya wrote on 2011-01-27 12:06
Quote from Aubog007;306407:
Any alchemist ever tinker around with max damage enchants and alchemy in general?
From what i was told, Max damage enchants were not even worth using at all compared to other counterparts. While using Sand Burst and Flame Burst to rank respective alchemy skills, the damage output increased tremendously. Also used Flame Burst Enhancement set and it was doing slightly LESS damage with 5 charges than my max damage set.
Also took off both sets and they did 120-150 less max damage flame burst than either sets.
Just curious if any alchemists who have a max damage set can try.
Was your flamer, flame mastery, and alchemy mastery ranks high? The difference is +flame burst damage is affected by those multipliers where as max damage is tacked on at the end.
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Username wrote on 2011-01-27 12:26
Id like this looked into.
I was sure that alchemy element damage enchants and the masteries were the only ones that really effected damage.
Aswell as it depends on what your cylinder is; My Volcano Cylinder, Cressida Fire/Life Enhancement, Fire Alchemist/R1 FA, and R2 AM i was doing about 600-700 crits on full charge flame burst. 1000+ on Snowfield spiders.
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Soulroc wrote on 2011-01-27 13:16
If I remember correctly Max Damage Enchants were calculated AFTER the multipliers rather than their alchemic counterparts which were calculated before multipliers
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Kenero wrote on 2011-01-27 14:36
Alchemy enchants are directly added to the skill, so it enjoys its damage being multiplied with more charges.
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Zid wrote on 2011-01-27 15:08
Quote from Aubog007;306407:
While using Sand Burst and Flame Burst to rank respective alchemy skills, the damage output increased tremendously. Also used Flame Burst Enhancement set and it was doing slightly LESS damage with 5 charges than my max damage set.
Sand Burst, no matter how many charges, will have each charge affected individually by max damage enchants. Would make sense, right?
Flame Burst is tricky. Fire enchants do affect the charge count's damage, but since Flame Burst hits 3-5 times, max damage enchants also gets added on to each hit. And when you consider how low damage each hit is, with not as good and abundant Fire Alchemic damage enchants...
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Archibald wrote on 2011-01-27 17:12
I'll try to do a semi scientific study on this to confirm or deny accuracy and effectiveness. I will tell you that with my cressida set S3 volcano Cylinder Fire Alchemist Title and hot enchant on my boots I did a 2.056 5 charge crit on Snow spiders in with total cumulative damage on that about 6.4k (2 crits on those r 5).
Also about every 10 max fire adds about 90-100 max to 5 charge non crit, with that set.
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Iyasenu wrote on 2011-01-27 17:14
Quote from Archibald;306526:
I'll try to do a semi scientific study on this to confirm or deny accuracy and effectiveness. I will tell you that with my cressida set S3 volcano Cylinder Fire Alchemist Title and hot enchant on my boots I did a 2.056 5 charge crit on Snow spiders in with total cumulative damage on that about 6.4k (2 crits on those r 5).
Also about every 10 max fire adds about 90-100 max to 5 charge non crit.
Suddenly, everyone wanted to r1 Flame burst!
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Dracius wrote on 2011-01-27 18:03
Quote from Iyasenu;306527:
Suddenly, everyone wanted to r1 Flame burst!
Oh noes!
Water Cannon spammers will never get used to Flame Burst anyway
>:D
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Archibald wrote on 2011-01-27 18:54
Quote from Iyasenu;306527:
Suddenly, everyone wanted to r1 Flame burst!
I hope so. On Alexina no one has discovered 4th upgrade for fire cylinders meaning I am 8 Fire Alchemic damage short on my Volcano Cylinder.
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M wrote on 2011-01-27 19:27
Sounds painful :< Maybe you should discover it already then >=o
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Archibald wrote on 2011-01-27 20:23
Ive spammed thousands of fire crystals in the last few weeks. No discoveries. Maybe someone has a trick???
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Aubog007 wrote on 2011-01-27 20:46
I have rank 1 Flame Burst and Rank 1 Fire alchemy.
It must have some stacking.
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Archibald wrote on 2011-01-27 20:48
Maybe it has a constant like magic?
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abc33kr wrote on 2011-01-27 23:23
Quote from Archibald;306630:
I hope so. On Alexina no one has discovered 4th upgrade for fire cylinders meaning I am 8 Fire Alchemic damage short on my Volcano Cylinder.
hehe are you proud of me for discovering a fire upgrade?
but no longer a ra tho D: