Petition for improvement!

• Malogg wrote on 2011-01-29 01:44

  Quote from Eleirs:

  
  
  http://forum.nexon.net/Mabinogi/forums/3/6682476/ShowThread.aspx#6682476
  
  Go here to sign the petition against Nexon's continued poor service! If you want to have a live chat for support sign this! if your tired of lazy patching and no one fixing whats in plain sight. Its funny we've been complaining for so long. Soon as someone exploits an event its looked into CMON nexon! Nexon stole an account with over 200k nx put into it. Thats stealing nexon. I followed your rules. Now follow your own! Sign up today!
  
  

  
  
  This petition is GM approved, which means they are watching.
• Cannibal wrote on 2011-01-29 02:01
  Nexon can't "steal" an account, because all the accounts belong to them. They could delete/ban everyone's accounts right now and it wouldn't be illegal, because they have the right to do whatever they want to their property.
  
  Anyway, there protests are starting to get boring. One person speaks up about something that "needs to be changed" and then everyone else jumps on the bandwagon.
• EndlessDreams wrote on 2011-01-29 02:08
  Err... I guess some people are blind to the patches and the problems that they do fixed. They too focused on the problems that aren't being addresses. They complain about not fixing stuff yet at the same time they complain when an event gets fixed? Some players seems to want everything both ways.
  
  I think the some players needs to be fixed.
  
  This (insert whatever company) needs higher quality service complaint gets old really fast.
• Cannibal wrote on 2011-01-29 02:10

  Quote from EndlessDreams;308862:

  Err... I guess some people are blind to the patches and the problems that they do fixed. They too focused on the problems that aren't being addresses. They complain about not fixing stuff yet at the same time they complain when an event gets fixed? Some players seems to want everything both ways.
  
  I think the some players needs to be fixed.

  
  
  Exactly. People are always going to complain when they don't get their way, even if their way isn't logical.
• Cryosite wrote on 2011-01-29 02:14
  The problem is Nexon can't please everyone. It is downright impossible. Every change they make has to be a balanced weighting in of how many customers they think will be pleased by the change and how many will be pissed off, and by to what magnitude.
  
  No matter what they do be it thing A, thing B, thing C, or D none of the above, someone is going to be pissed, someone is (hopefully) going to like it.
• Kueh wrote on 2011-01-29 02:19

  Quote from Mike;308853:

  One person speaks up about something that "needs to be changed" and then everyone else jumps on the bandwagon.

  
  
  Isn't that the way protests work? I direct you to Martin Luther King and Mohandas Karamchand Gandhi.
• Chromatic wrote on 2011-01-29 02:39
  Not signing anything since we know its pointless. Plus i have absolutely no clue what that player did to get banned. And nexon isn't to go around banning for every little motive so if he's banned, it was something bad enough to catch GM attention
• Iyasenu wrote on 2011-01-29 02:54
  You know...
  It would be kind of nice if Nexon had a kind of "Live Support" instead of just the ticket system.
• ugonna100 wrote on 2011-01-29 03:14

  Quote from Iyasenu;308915:

  You know...
  It would be kind of nice if Nexon had a kind of "Live Support" instead of just the ticket system.

  
  
  THe cost would be very large. especcialy considering the amount of players they have, they'd lose a lot of money to employees they would need to hire for live support. and their not as big as Toshiba or microsoft so i dont think they can afford live support (unless they hire the foreign people who get payed for 75 cents an hour *sigh*)
• Joker wrote on 2011-01-29 03:28

  Quote from Mike;308853:

  Nexon can't "steal" an account, because all the accounts belong to them. They could delete/ban everyone's accounts right now and it wouldn't be illegal, because they have the right to do whatever they want to their property.
  
  Anyway, there protests are starting to get boring. One person speaks up about something that "needs to be changed" and then everyone else jumps on the bandwagon.

  
  
  Not to mention whats classified as our property is if we pay a montly fee (no not nexon cards) A subscription fee meaning which doesnt give u points but Gives you time to play.
  
  This is how F2P MMORPG's work.. you play for freee.. and CHOOSE* (being the optimum word) to buy Extra stuff so yeah what Mike said they Could if they wanted to Ban you for ever for no reason
  Of course this would piss off the community (unless there was a good reason)
  
  and yes you other people are right. You cannot Please everyone
• Oizen wrote on 2011-01-29 03:35
  I'll sign it, but theres nothing to sign, and such a thing won't truly do anytihng.
  
  Besides I hate the Nexon forums, they are the proof that NA nexon doesn't give a sh*t. Are there even moderators there?
• EndlessDreams wrote on 2011-01-29 03:38

  Quote from Joker;308946:

  Not to mention whats classified as our property is if we pay a montly fee (no not nexon cards) A subscription fee meaning which doesnt give u points but Gives you time to play.
  
  This is how F2P MMORPG's work.. you play for freee.. and CHOOSE* (being the optimum word) to buy Extra stuff so yeah what Mike said they Could if they wanted to Ban you for ever for no reason
  Of course this would piss off the community (unless there was a good reason)
  
  and yes you other people are right. You cannot Please everyone

  
  
  Wrong. Even in World of Warcraft Terms of Agreement says this:
  
  

  Quote from Blizzard WoW ToA:

  
  Ownership.
  All rights and title in and to the Service (including without limitation any user accounts, titles, computer code, themes, objects, characters, character names, stories, dialogue, catch phrases, locations, concepts, artwork, animations, sounds, musical compositions, audio-visual effects, methods of operation, moral rights, any related documentation, “applets,” transcripts of the chat rooms, character profile information, recordings of games) are owned by Blizzard or its licensors. The Game and the Service are protected by United States and international laws, and may contain certain licensed materials in which Blizzard’s licensors may enforce their rights in the event of any violation of this Agreement.

  
  
  Never in any game will they let the player actually own anything. Everything belongs to the company. It is stupid to let player consider anything inside the game "their own".
  
  Also, they put the following in caps to make sure people understand:
  
  

  Quote from Blizzard:

  
  No Ownership Rights in Account.
  
  NOTWITHSTANDING ANYTHING TO THE CONTRARY HEREIN, YOU ACKNOWLEDGE AND AGREE THAT YOU SHALL HAVE NO OWNERSHIP OR OTHER PROPERTY INTEREST IN ANY ACCOUNT STORED OR HOSTED ON A BLIZZARD SYSTEM, INCLUDING WITHOUT LIMITATION ANY BNET ACCOUNT OR WORLD OF WARCRAFT ACCOUNT, AND YOU FURTHER ACKNOWLEDGE AND AGREE THAT ALL RIGHTS IN AND TO SUCH ACCOUNTS ARE AND SHALL FOREVER BE OWNED BY AND INURE TO THE BENEFIT OF BLIZZARD.
  

  
  
  In short, any company can ban you for whatever they please.
• Malogg wrote on 2011-01-29 05:01

  Quote from Chromatic;308899:

  Not signing anything since we know its pointless. Plus i have absolutely no clue what that player did to get banned. And nexon isn't to go around banning for every little motive so if he's banned, it was something bad enough to catch GM attention

  
  
  He let his friend use his account for a different game, and they thought his friend was hacking, so they locked it. He tried to contact them and ask them to unlock it, but so far nothing has happened. He has given up now, pretty much. He just made a new char.
• EndlessDreams wrote on 2011-01-29 05:41

  Quote from DarkLord7;309104:

  He let his friend use his account for a different game, and they thought his friend was hacking, so they locked it. He tried to contact them and ask them to unlock it, but so far nothing has happened. He has given up now, pretty much. He just made a new char.

  
  
  So how did we know if his friend was really hacking or not hacking on the other game? How will Nexon knows if it was him or his friend playing during that time? They tell people not to share accounts anyways for security reasons.
• Okitaru wrote on 2011-01-29 06:04
  This won't go anywhere, ever.