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Roy Mustang wrote on 2011-01-30 12:49
Okay, I know I might be pushing it by making yet another service related thread. But I think it's important that we get this under one thread so that it's not cluttered with the other two threads.
Based on suggestions of Zid and Osay I strongly feel that a Hybrid Service solution would be a good idea.
I propose we do what KR did.
Have the Old Model + No Camping Penality + 10% Exp. Keep Nao Soulstones in the shop, keep non expiring items in the shop and maybe keep out Nao Service and just have two packages.
Make the "Extra Storage" one we have now a little cheaper and add a new one that is our current service + Advanced Play. I think that would even things out quite a bit. It would make a lot of players happy and it would be a nice middle ground.
Would you guys support such a move? Seriously though, we gotta give something to get something. I feel that giving up on Nao is the most reasonable option if we are going to give up something.
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Joker wrote on 2011-01-30 13:03
Quote from kingofrunes;310954:
Okay, I know I might be pushing it by making yet another service related thread. But I think it's important that we get this under one thread so that it's not cluttered with the other two threads.
Based on suggestions of Zid and Osay I strongly feel that a Hybrid Service solution would be a good idea.
I propose we do what KR did.
Have the Old Model + No Camping Penality + 10% Exp. Keep Nao Soulstones in the shop, keep non expiring items in the shop and maybe keep out Nao Service and just have two packages.
Make the "Extra Storage" one we have now a little cheaper and add a new one that is our current service + Advanced Play. I think that would even things out quite a bit. It would make a lot of players happy and it would be a nice middle ground.
Would you guys support such a move? Seriously though, we gotta give something to get something. I feel that giving up on Nao is the most reasonable option if we are going to give up something.
IMO advanced play was lost but I'm Glad its Gone ... it gave too much to people who spammed chars on accounts...... Though they may have payed for said chars.. that wasnt really meant to be abused in the firs place... i mean 27k nx worth of dyes... on 1 acc every week.. or day... (forgets when dyes appeared at a fixed rate). It was OP and gave TOO much to paying people... IMO its not worth it and bringing it back would ruin mabi even further... at least for people who cant afford nx...
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Roy Mustang wrote on 2011-01-30 13:10
Quote from Joker;310956:
IMO advanced play was lost but I'm Glad its Gone ... it gave too much to people who spammed chars on accounts...... Though they may have payed for said chars.. that wasnt really meant to be abused in the firs place... i mean 27k nx worth of dyes... on 1 acc every week.. or day... (forgets when dyes appeared at a fixed rate). It was OP and gave TOO much to paying people... IMO its not worth it and bringing it back would ruin mabi even further... at least for people who cant afford nx...
Dyes used to be 20k-40k. If you don't mind 100k dyes...Okay *shrugs shoulders*
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Joker wrote on 2011-01-30 13:16
Quote from kingofrunes;310958:
Dyes used to be 20k-40k. If you don't mind 100k dyes...Okay *shrugs shoulders*
prices will never return...to that price range..( i get your point) yes dyes wouldlower but prob not by that much... and only people profitting from it would be people with 20+ characters plus theres already TOO much equipment out there and very few amt of people need dyes.. we alrready get most our dyes from rb.. plus we need more cash
Creation not more things to spend on. (especially for gold horders)
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Taliya wrote on 2011-01-30 13:22
You should be posting these threads over in NX forums where they'll actually be read by NX. -.-
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Roy Mustang wrote on 2011-01-30 13:31
Quote from Taliya;310962:
You should be posting these threads over in NX forums where they'll actually be read by NX. -.-
I am. Doesn't hurt though to see how many people on here would support this idea. Gotta get support for it before I push for it.
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soheikitsune wrote on 2011-01-30 13:39
Quote from Taliya;310962:
You should be posting these threads over in NX forums where they'll actually be read by NX. -.-
I'm sorry, you're under the interpretation that he will actually get real answers over in NX forums.
No offense, but this is probably the only place where he will get mature answers.
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Pocoyo wrote on 2011-01-30 13:45
Quote from soheikitsune;310967:
I'm sorry, you're under the interpretation that he will actually get real answers over in NX forums.
No offense, but this is probably the only place where he will get mature answers.
I agree. If he posted in Nexon forums the thread would most likely be full of Trolls.
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Claudia wrote on 2011-01-30 15:00
Yeah, the collective age/IQ ratio of the Nexon forums is about .1.
I like your idea though, but by 'non expiring things', i'm assuming you mean no free advanced items? I'm just a little confused, sorry.
Also, I sold a white fixed dye for 200k yesterday, IMO to me that's pretty sick just to make my clothing look pretty.
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Arsik wrote on 2011-01-30 15:25
Quote from Claudia;311003:
Yeah, the collective age/IQ ratio of the Nexon forums is about .1.
I like your idea though, but by 'non expiring things', i'm assuming you mean no free advanced items? I'm just a little confused, sorry.
Also, I sold a white fixed dye for 200k yesterday, IMO to me that's pretty sick just to make my clothing look pretty.
He means that the items you buy from the Item Shop don't expire, but the ones you get from Adv. Play do.
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Shizukani wrote on 2011-01-30 15:56
Quote from Claudia;311003:
Yeah, the collective age/IQ ratio of the Nexon forums is about .1.
I like your idea though, but by 'non expiring things', i'm assuming you mean no free advanced items? I'm just a little confused, sorry.
Also, I sold a white fixed dye for 200k yesterday, IMO to me that's pretty sick just to make my clothing look pretty.
Actually, an age/IQ ratio of 0.1 is not that bad. That would be equivalent to saying that a 10 year old has an IQ of 100, which is pretty good for a 10 year old.
On topic... I don't like the EXP boosts that this gives. It would basically mean that people who pay are getting an unfair leveling advantage.
Get rid of the 10% extra EXP and the no camping penalty and I'm fine with this.
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Zatrox wrote on 2011-01-30 16:10
Quote from kingofrunes;310964:
I am. Doesn't hurt though to see how many people on here would support this idea. Gotta get support for it before I push for it.
I appreciate your enthusiasm and everything, but there's pretty much no chance you'll see any changes. I mean it's been how long already?
The only shot you'd have is if you started a mass movement in KR Mabi (like what happened with Class System v1).
...which would be unlikely to happen anyway. Class system affected everyone whereas cash shop change only affects... cash users. And dye addicts, I guess.
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Roy Mustang wrote on 2011-01-30 16:10
Quote from rapidfire55k;311029:
Actually, an age/IQ ratio of 0.1 is not that bad. That would be equivalent to saying that a 10 year old has an IQ of 100, which is pretty good for a 10 year old.
On topic... I don't like the EXP boosts that this gives. It would basically mean that people who pay are getting an unfair leveling advantage.
Get rid of the 10% extra EXP and the no camping penalty and I'm fine with this.
The current Service we have currently has that and a lot of people enjoy it. So I figure we should add that feature into the new hybrid service to keep current customers happy and please the old customers as well.
Quote from Arsik;311013:
He means that the items you buy from the Item Shop don't expire, but the ones you get from Adv. Play do.
Correct! That way, Nexon can make money off of those who don't want expiring items while the player is happy with the expiring items that they can use right away or sell to others. I felt it was a good trade off.
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Shizukani wrote on 2011-01-30 16:17
Quote from kingofrunes;311039:
The current Service we have currently has that and a lot of people enjoy it. So I figure we should add that feature into the new hybrid service to keep current customers happy and please the old customers as well.
Correct! That way, Nexon can make money off of those who don't want expiring items while the player is happy with the expiring items that they can use right away or sell to others. I felt it was a good trade off.
He who pleases everyone pleases no one.
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sakraycore wrote on 2011-01-30 16:17
Actually I think a couple of the more OP NX items needs to be taken out. They're like game breaking. I'm talking about the repair protection and ego repair NX items...
They completely override the durability system =/