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Taycat wrote on 2011-02-02 02:07
What's it do?
Is it good?
If it's good, is there anything better?
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Kaeporo wrote on 2011-02-02 02:09
Conceptual Enchant
Conceptual is a Heavy Armor enchant that can be obtained from Par Snow Crystal. The drop rate from the end chest is absolutely brutal (Approx: 1%) and the enchant personalizes your armor (not a problem as upgraded armor is personalized anyway).
It's regarded as one of the best enchants in the game, at least for heavy armor.
-10 Int
+20 Will
+8~14 Max Damage if Combat Mastery Rank 1
+2x Repair Cost
+5 Max Damage when wearing "who Discovered the Maiz Ruins" title
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Taycat wrote on 2011-02-02 02:16
So basically, it's only good if you use heavy armor, but that means it can be shadowed by other enchants?
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Cookies wrote on 2011-02-02 02:18
Quote from kNocturn;315477:
So basically, it's only good if you use heavy armor, but that means it can be shadowed by other enchants?
It only goes on heavy armor, if you use the set up conceptual is the best prefix for it as of G13.
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Taycat wrote on 2011-02-02 02:19
g14 changes that?
Oh?
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M wrote on 2011-02-02 04:03
I've not heard of a G14 enchant that's better for heavy armor. Conceptual is the best damage dealing enchant for melee that is out right now, even at minimum roll it's the best lol :) However light armor enchants with good enchanted accessories is going to deal more damage, and clothes will deal even more than that. However the difference is mostly between light and heavy armor. Light armor and clothes have minimal differences for the moment
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sakraycore wrote on 2011-02-02 05:16
Conceptual Avenger would be the absolute best for max damage?
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Lamm wrote on 2011-02-02 05:19
Quote from sakraycore;316074:
Conceptual Avenger would be the absolute best for max damage?
For heavy armors. But the current ideal max damage set does not revolve around a heavy armor.
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Joker wrote on 2011-02-02 05:48
Quote from Lamm;316082:
For heavy armors. But the current ideal max damage set does not revolve around a heavy armor.
omg its Lamm ~flails arms~... only problem with max dmg on clothing set is repairing the accessories O_O
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abc33kr wrote on 2011-02-02 05:53
well its not as best as oblivion white horse+ oblivion earthquake x2.
but cost effectively, its best.
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M wrote on 2011-02-02 06:46
Quote from sakraycore;316074:
Conceptual Avenger would be the absolute best for max damage?
Actually Conceptual Darkness is the absolute best damage (FOR ARMORS). Assuming darkness is +15 damage it beats avengers +12... and I'm saying MAX damage, not "str + max" or anything because people rarely use avengers str quality lol
Quote from abc33kr;316156:
well its not as best as oblivion white horse+ oblivion earthquake x2.
but cost effectively, its best.
Yes this is better but nearly impossible to get at this point in the game. But yes, clothes are the absolute max damage set you can get. Light armor is in the middle, where it should be, in terms of damage and cost.
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Rebel wrote on 2011-02-02 12:27
Quote from Kaeporo;315458:
Conceptual Enchant
Conceptual is a Heavy Armor enchant that can be obtained from Par Snow Crystal. The drop rate from the end chest is absolutely brutal (Approx: 1%) and the enchant personalizes your armor (not a problem as upgraded armor is personalized anyway).
It's regarded as one of the best enchants in the game, at least for heavy armor.
-10 Int
+20 Will
+8~14 Max Damage if Combat Mastery Rank 1
+2x Repair Cost
+5 Max Damage when wearing "who Discovered the Maiz Ruins" title
Don't forget about that 5 Str boost with no req.
That's a solid 2 max melee damage.
Quote from Maia;316203:
Actually Conceptual Darkness is the absolute best damage (FOR ARMORS). Assuming darkness is +15 damage it beats avengers +12... and I'm saying MAX damage, not "str + max" or anything because people rarely use avengers str quality lol
Everyone i know with avenger (Myself included) use the pot poisoning req for Avengers Str bonus.
Without it, theres no real purpose of using it over darkness.
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Justified wrote on 2011-02-02 12:43
Quote from sakraycore;316074:
Conceptual Avenger would be the absolute best for max damage?
Quote from Lamm;316082:
For heavy armors. But the current ideal max damage set does not revolve around a heavy armor.
Clothing + Accessories has been the best for max damage since like forever. Looks like it will probably stay that way too.
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abc33kr wrote on 2011-02-02 13:35
I got conceptual on my 5th par ice run, and i heard that some bastard in KR that hogs maiz respawn every week never got the es even after 200runs.
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Taycat wrote on 2011-02-02 13:51
Quote from abc33kr;316410:
I got conceptual on my 5th par ice run, and i heard that some bastard in KR that hogs maiz respawn every week never got the es even after 200runs.
Then that's why he doesn't have it.