Guide: Calculating Field Boss & Dungeon Respawn Times

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Jahrakal wrote on 2011-02-03 00:20

Quote from Cuckooguy;317674:
Unless I fail at reading Japanese, Kukutimer tells me the Giant Long Horned Gnu spawns every 10~15 hours and not every 9~12 hours.

Anyway personally I think Devcat should do away with field bosses in general. While competing for them can be kind of exhilirating I also loathe them for a couple reasons.

Mmm you could be right.

But from my experience of camping Giant Gnu for a week in KR server, I've never seen a gnu that spawned later than 12 hours. Just a coincedence? Maybe, or maybe not.

Camp them for yourselves and find out everyone!
Lordres wrote on 2011-02-03 07:51

Quote from Tekashi;316803:
Since I'm tired of guilds hoarding field bosses to themselves, these two items will help those smarter people out there create their own field boss charts, as well as calculations for dungeon respawn times (Maiz/Longa/Karu). You'll have to do some work to create a realistic timetable in excel (it won't be easy), but here are the "rosetta stones" that so many people have been wanting.

http://www.xenostar.net/uploads/RuinsDisappearanceTimeCalculation.pdf

http://www.xenostar.net/uploads/BossTimeCalculationRelation.pdf

I have heard that boss calcs have changed since G13 so I'll upload any information I get on that later if I can confirm they did or not.

They did change, each Field Boss has its own timer now.
Lordres wrote on 2011-02-03 07:53

Quote from Jahrakal;317067:
First spawn is 12 hours after the server's up, and respawns 9~12 hour interval. You can see maximum 3 per day. They all spawn at the same time on all the channel.

I don't think they spawn at the same time.
Health wrote on 2011-02-03 09:35

Don't forget TsukiYuki

http://yukitsuki.com/index.php?page=topic&showforum=4
gentrone wrote on 2011-02-03 12:18

What's so good about Gnus?
Saturn226 wrote on 2011-02-03 15:04

Heeeey, I took a picture with that bull :D
Shizuo wrote on 2011-02-03 15:49

YES THANK YOU 8DD
Hopefully, I won't have to start over on my sketch quest, but if I do, this could help :D
Archibald wrote on 2011-02-03 17:47

Quote from gentrone;318439:
What's so good about Gnus?

Best prefix enchant in game(melee/range) that goes on all items.
Jahrakal wrote on 2011-02-03 18:16

Quote from Archibald;318650:
Best prefix enchant in game(melee/range) that goes on all items.

Maybe for accessories only in terms of max damage. Oblivion is not that great for ranged, and there are much better choices for shoes, gloves, clothing, and helm for prefix when it comes to ranged.

It's basically an enchant designed for 17+ year old characters or people who will only be windmilling.

I'm saying it's not the best for range because full critical rate comes before maximum damage. Once you have a set that takes "-3% crit x n (where n is number of items you put this enchant on)" into consideration, it cuts down significant amount of your critical rate. Not to mention if you're using any +critical enchant on other pieces of equipments, you're wasting the full potential of that equipment (<- very important when you pick a gear).

For example on clothing, assuming human does not have mastered Blacksmithing:
- Extraordinary White Horse is +3 critical, and +22 max for human//+26 max for elves with the title
- Oblivion White Horse is +1 critical, and +25 max for human//+29 max for elves with the title
- Stage White Horse is +4 critical, +23 max for human, and for elves it's not worth it.

You will see that the Stage beats Oblivion by 3 critical, whereas losing 2 max damage. 3 Critical is 15 luck, and 2 max damage is 5 dex. Choice should be obvious.

Crash shot is nice, and you don't need high critical for this. But, Crash shot can be slower than AR if you miss even once. You will see how AR is faster than Crash Shot in a lot of situations and that Crash Shot WILL miss, and it takes too long to aim unless you're in point-blank range.

I can provide videos to prove my point, but I'll leave it at that for now since it's a bit off topic.
Lordres wrote on 2011-02-03 18:40

Quote from gentrone;318439:
What's so good about Gnus?

Oblivion ES
radionoise wrote on 2011-02-03 22:27

Quote from Jahrakal;318680:
Maybe for accessories only in terms of max damage. Oblivion is not that great for ranged, and there are much better choices for shoes, gloves, clothing, and helm for prefix when it comes to ranged.

It's basically an enchant designed for 17+ year old characters or people who will only be windmilling.

I'm saying it's not the best for range because full critical rate comes before maximum damage. Once you have a set that takes "-3% crit x n (where n is number of items you put this enchant on)" into consideration, it cuts down significant amount of your critical rate. Not to mention if you're using any +critical enchant on other pieces of equipments, you're wasting the full potential of that equipment (<- very important when you pick a gear).

For example on clothing, assuming human does not have mastered Blacksmithing:
- Extraordinary White Horse is +3 critical, and +22 max for human//+26 max for elves with the title
- Oblivion White Horse is +1 critical, and +25 max for human//+29 max for elves with the title
- Stage White Horse is +4 critical, +23 max for human, and for elves it's not worth it.

You will see that the Stage beats Oblivion by 3 critical, whereas losing 2 max damage. 3 Critical is 15 luck, and 2 max damage is 5 dex. Choice should be obvious.

Crash shot is nice, and you don't need high critical for this. But, Crash shot can be slower than AR if you miss even once. You will see how AR is faster than Crash Shot in a lot of situations and that Crash Shot WILL miss, and it takes too long to aim unless you're in point-blank range.

I can provide videos to prove my point, but I'll leave it at that for now since it's a bit off topic.

In terms of average damage, it's also not worth it over Precise accessories (not taking criticals into account)... I'd say at best you could use oblivion in greaves if you already have 130% crit+ with a HLB (while still keeping a perfect roll Oasis in the bank when the extra critical is needed).

Like you said, there are better prefixes for just about anyone who is not a 17+ year old Windmiller.
THEjonster wrote on 2011-02-05 03:26

Quote from Jahrakal;318680:

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For example on clothing, assuming human does not have mastered Blacksmithing:
- Extraordinary White Horse is +3 critical, and +22 max for human//+26 max for elves with the title
- Oblivion White Horse is +1 critical, and +25 max for human//+29 max for elves with the title
- Stage White Horse is +4 critical, +23 max for human, and for elves it's not worth it.
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I can provide videos to prove my point, but I'll leave it at that for now since it's a bit off topic.

lol idk why you added the blacksmith title in here (other than for stage example) or why the elf has it rather than the human; no offense just found it amusing
radionoise wrote on 2011-02-05 04:09

Quote from THEjonster;320901:
lol idk why you added the blacksmith title in here (other than for stage example) or why the elf has it rather than the human; no offense just found it amusing

He assumes the Human does not have the Blacksmith/Tailoring title for that example, but it is also assumed that an elf would have the Final Shot Master title (+30 DEX).
Kaon wrote on 2011-02-05 19:03

Quote from Lordres;318380:
I don't think they spawn at the same time.

The first spawn after server comes up is the same on all chs, after that they vary.

Quote from Jahrakal;318680:

Maybe for accessories only in terms of max damage.
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It's basically an enchant designed for 17+ year old characters or people who will only be windmilling.

Even in the case of a windmiller on accs, Stout could be argued as better cause of the min damage gained from str. 2 max loss compared to 6 min gain... it's only .4 less damage average, and that extra min helps for guaranteed windmill damage. And even windmillers can still smash occasionally, so the extra crit never hurts.

But personally I still think it'd be cool to build a set with them just to see the numbers... o3o
Archibald wrote on 2011-02-05 22:20

Does anyone have Uladh field boss calculations?

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