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Chillax wrote on 2011-02-28 03:42
Quote from Mama;353295:
doctors get a lot more padded wallets at least.. and can be bought by pharmaceuticals..
It's precisely because of that that they are better targets of lawsuits.
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paladin wrote on 2011-02-28 03:47
What do you here more of teacher harrsament or mal practice suits?
While doctors have to deal with patients
Teachers have to deal with students that sometimes are on dead end roads or refuse to change
I dont think its easy as a teacher to watch a student throw their life away is it?
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Mama wrote on 2011-02-28 03:52
Quote from Chillax;353312:
It's precisely because of that that they are better targets of lawsuits.
It shocks me honestly.. they make so much money already. I always thought emotional parents or misdiagnoses would get them in court more often but I dont know for sure.
Quote from paladin;353327:
What do you here more of teacher harrsament or mal practice suits?
While doctors have to deal with patients
Teachers have to deal with students that sometimes are on dead end roads or refuse to change
I dont think its easy as a teacher to watch a student throw their life away is it?
'what you hear of' is never a good argument, the media chooses what to publish for shock value rather than actual occurrence
I suggest watching 60 Minutes more often.
but yea they both deal with people, and people are always a b*tch to deal with; the difference is that doctors have much more powerful influence on people's prognosis.. its arguable which has a larger influence on people but IMO doctors take the cake
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Chillax wrote on 2011-02-28 03:55
Quote from paladin;353327:
What do you here more of teacher harrsament or mal practice suits?
While doctors have to deal with patients
Teachers have to deal with students that sometimes are on dead end roads or refuse to change
I dont think its easy as a teacher to watch a student throw their life away is it?
Just because you don't hear much of something doesn't mean there aren't many occurrences. It's much easier to spread rumors of a child molester throughout a school than it is to do the same with purported reports of malpractice. Malpractice insurance is also pretty expensive.
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Lan wrote on 2011-02-28 04:31
Quote from Mama;352959:
im trying to be a psychologist (of some sort, idk yet) and my dad likes to waltz in while im studying and be like, "So, ever thought of being a Physician? Can you just switch over and be one? It's probably better" in broken english.
*facepalm*
No, I havn't. just because a career pays well and is hard to get into doesn't mean it will make you happy, and this just brings insight into it.
No mama! become a psychiatrist :D Basically the same thing only like 3x more pay ^_^ (Even if you'll go into debt from medical school...)
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newpants wrote on 2011-02-28 04:40
Some doctors have a nice cozy 8-5 job. Others have call every other week to interrupt their sleep.
Teachers get holidays and a whole summer off.
You guys say the doctors make more money, but wouldn't you say being a doctor is a lot more stressful?
Also, malpractice isn't really an issue. You'd be hard-pressed to find a doctor who isn't paying malpractice insurance.
Teacher harrassment charges? I think that's mainly the teacher's fault, whenever I hear of one. Though I guess I haven't heard of too many.
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Chillax wrote on 2011-02-28 07:03
Quote from newpants;353388:
Some doctors have a nice cozy 8-5 job. Others have call every other week to interrupt their sleep.
Teachers get holidays and a whole summer off.
You guys say the doctors make more money, but wouldn't you say being a doctor is a lot more stressful?
Also, malpractice isn't really an issue. You'd be hard-pressed to find a doctor who isn't paying malpractice insurance.
Teacher harrassment charges? I think that's mainly the teacher's fault, whenever I hear of one. Though I guess I haven't heard of too many.
Well, malpractice insurance is definitely a big issue for doctors. Tens of thousands get blown away on it, and even more is needed for more dangerous fields of medicine. Not to mention, there's the defense attorneys that have to get hired or out-of-court settlements that cost more money, and the potential worsening of your reputation when a lawsuit gets filed.
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Cynic wrote on 2011-02-28 07:41
Thank goodness I switched to being a Coroner. :'D
I'll be a Doctor/Pathologist and make more than both.
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Ithiliel wrote on 2011-02-28 18:07
Quote from newpants;353388:
Teachers get holidays and a whole summer off.
Teachers getting holidays off? Not really. Most of the holidays that the students have off the teachers still have to go into work.
Having the summer off? We don't get paid for that. The only way we would get paid in the summer is if we choose to cut down our paychecks during the school year.
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Hebban wrote on 2011-03-01 16:13
>implying doctors earn little money and that article is correct
>herpaderpa
Funny.
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Yoorah wrote on 2011-03-03 23:59
It's true to a degree, but it doesn't give the full picture. I don't remember the exact specifics, but when I was discussing this with someone before, I remember reading that while doctors working at the hospital are often working crazy hours or shifts, they essentially have half a year off, too. Many then open their own clinics to make extra income during that time. So while it's true that it'll take you a while to break even, that calculation comparing doctor salary to that of teachers is probably quite a bit off.
Personally, the field of medicine and everything associated with it leaves a bad taste in my mouth. Pharmaceutics + doctors = corruption. And most people go into those fields because of the prestige, more so than "wanting to save lives". The honest people among them, however--I have lots of respect for them.
In any case, I think the more important point here is that doctors have a lower life expectancy.
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Cucurbita wrote on 2011-03-04 00:03
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In any case, I think the more important point here is that doctors have a lower life expectancy.
Higher depression rates, higher suicide rates, lower life expectancy, and higher divorce rates, on average.
Its sad. Its an incredibly stressful job and the hours are terrible. And they're there after so much sacrifice and all in order to help others, only to be treated like this.
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Cynic wrote on 2011-03-04 00:27
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Higher depression rates, higher suicide rates, lower life expectancy, and higher divorce rates, on average.
Its sad. Its an incredibly stressful job and the hours are terrible. And they're there after so much sacrifice and all in order to help others, only to be treated like this.
Honestly, if a Doctor has enough stress to suffer from depression, they shouldn't be in the field.
The true weakness of a Doctor is if they care. (believe it or not, it's not better) Having a bastard as a Doctor is a lot better than a ooshie gooshie Doctor.
So.. I can't find it within myself to be sad. They brought it on themselves by getting into the field.
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Lan wrote on 2011-03-04 00:38
Quote from Cynic;358368:
Honestly, if a Doctor has enough stress to suffer from depression, they shouldn't be in the field.
The true weakness of a Doctor is if they care. (believe it or not, it's not better) Having a bastard as a Doctor is a lot better than a ooshie gooshie Doctor.
So.. I can't find it within myself to be sad. They brought it on themselves by getting into the field.
My Dad's patients like him because he cares and spends time with them :< Just means he sees less patients...
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Cucurbita wrote on 2011-03-04 00:54
Quote from Cynic;358368:
Honestly, if a Doctor has enough stress to suffer from depression, they shouldn't be in the field.
The true weakness of a Doctor is if they care. (believe it or not, it's not better) Having a bastard as a Doctor is a lot better than a ooshie gooshie Doctor.
So.. I can't find it within myself to be sad. They brought it on themselves by getting into the field.
Don't give me that. We don't live in such an ideal world.
Any young aspiring man or woman in their 20's could jump into the medical world, ready to take on the challenges, excited to save lives.
It doesn't matter if you love your job or if you do it for the gratification of helping others. Its an incredibly stressful job all the same and I'm saying they deserve better. Everyone who cries "if you couldn't handle the stress of the job you don't deserve it" is just being extremely hypocritical and rude.