The RNG for Enchanting is the worst RNG in the game.

• foreignreign wrote on 2011-03-05 06:07
  It's true.
  
  Just wasted my Endless and Energy scrolls at ~70% or so success each :(
• EndlessDreams wrote on 2011-03-05 06:21
  Well, you do have 30% chance to fail. Seems like it is working just fine. Just bad "luck" on your part.
• foreignreign wrote on 2011-03-05 15:12
  I've had more success with it when the success rate was ~50% than when it's above ~65.
• Gotejjeken wrote on 2011-03-05 16:50
  If it is anything like Maple Story's scroll system then, yeah it is going to be terrible. A 80% chance is more like a 50-60% chance, etc.
• Phanterz wrote on 2011-03-05 17:25

  Quote from foreignreign;360436:

  I've had more success with it when the success rate was ~50% than when it's above ~65.

  
  
  You might think that way, but people who have successes don't talk about it.
• Shirayuki wrote on 2011-03-05 17:27
  I failed twice in a row in Mabinogi with 77% chances or so. Chances are chances, and sometimes you just get unlucky :p
• Micho wrote on 2011-03-05 23:00
  Do you guys actually use Magic Elixers? I always go at 0 and get it enchanted successfully, I've only failed once.
• Spartaaaaa wrote on 2011-03-05 23:05

  Quote from Micho;361050:

  Do you guys actually use Magic Elixers? I always go at 0 and get it enchanted successfully, I've only failed once.

  
  
  How many times have you actually done enchanting?
• Micho wrote on 2011-03-05 23:15

  Quote from Spartaaaaa;361058:

  How many times have you actually done enchanting?

  
  
  I think about 5 times, failed once though.
• foreignreign wrote on 2011-03-05 23:16

  Quote from Phanterz;360590:

  You might think that way, but people who have successes don't talk about it.

  
  
  wut
  
  that has nothing to do with anything
• Masterdo wrote on 2011-03-06 00:10

  Quote from foreignreign;361077:

  wut
  
  that has nothing to do with anything

  
  
  Well it might give the impression that there is much more failures than actually happens. For the RNG well remember that you only get one chance on it. 30 times out of 100 you will fail, but with only one sample, it's easy to have the impression it's broken if you are not lucky...
• placeboing wrote on 2011-03-06 00:57
  I usually have a 70 or 75% chance, and I've succeeded 4 times and failed once. Its funny that this guy is saying its broken when he's had like 3 failed enchants or whatever... such a small sample size.
• hotshot2k4 wrote on 2011-03-06 00:58
  The very foundation of an argument saying the RNG is bad/cheats is a failure. It's an RNG. You can't make bad random numbers. As long as you're not failing a 100% success or passing a 0%, it's probably working just fine. It's possible to fail 10 90% chances, even 20 of them, and that doesn't have to mean something's wrong with the game. You just had some bad luck. Or the RNG hates you!!!!11!!one
• foreignreign wrote on 2011-03-06 01:58

  Quote from hotshot2k4;361267:

  The very foundation of an argument saying the RNG is bad/cheats is a failure. It's an RNG. You can't make bad random numbers.

  
  
  Uuuuh, yes you can. You can have an "RNG" that isn't actually random at all. The very nature of a computer (and algorithm) is that it's not random. I haven't looked into RNGs in awhile so I don't know how far they've come, but I doubt that all of them are what we would like to think of as "random."
  
  See: various Fire Emblem games' RNG.
• xJac wrote on 2011-03-06 02:38
  Need a larger sample before we can conclude anything. Or the exact programing they used for RNG.
  
  I do noticed when enhancing, sometimes I keep failing +3 -> +4 many times in a row after failing a +5 -> +6.
  
  Edit: where as sometimes I was able to go from +0 -> +5 in one go, for multiple equips (armors sets).
  
  But can't really say anything until either a large enough sample size is given, or someone found the program they used for RNG.