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Yanm wrote on 2011-03-09 18:43
I've been meaning to make this thread for awhile. What do you all think of the new raid bosses? Which one is the toughest? The weakest? Also....exactly WHAT is Irukul? I used to always think that thing was a Mammoth, but looking closer at him, I'm thinking more of a giant hog or something. What's getting to me is that he has NO FUR SO HOW IS HE NOT FREEZING!! Also, his teeth.....jeez, did he try to eat a giant bear trap or something? Though, maybe he stays warm because he has a lot of....fat? If that were true, how are our weapons piercing his skin?
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xJac wrote on 2011-03-10 01:42
Irukul is a mammoth. You didn't see fur on it because Reilly striped the fur off when he was playing with it.
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Nichibon wrote on 2011-03-10 02:23
I haven't been able to do Klaus or Weeping queen yet so I can't comment on those. But...Irukul is pretty tough because of his insanely high hp, and the fact that it's more party dependent that most raids.
The easiest raid hands down is black belly. I'm surprised it's even a raid.
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Skye wrote on 2011-03-10 02:35
Quote from Nichibon;367672:
I haven't been able to do Klaus or Weeping queen yet so I can't comment on those. But...Irukul is pretty tough because of his insanely high hp, and the fact that it's more party dependent that most raids.
The easiest raid hands down is black belly. I'm surprised it's even a raid.
Pretty much this. Funny thing though; my first Black Belly run was glitched, and we all killed each other. We did more damage to each other than Black Belly did to us. It was fun.
I did one Irukul run with a random party...took 30 minutes to get his life down 2.5 bars. Then everyone started leaving.
Next party I was in took like 15 to completely kill him.
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xJac wrote on 2011-03-10 03:50
Pub means all possibilities.
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Rinne wrote on 2011-03-10 12:08
I think Irukul is a step in the right direction because the dropping rocks adds more to the battle than just dodging and attacking, but the most of the battle is still just dodging and attacking. The newer raids in the Korean version seem to add more environmental factors like Irukul does, but it'd be nice if we received new abilities that reflect boss abilities. I think that's the real issue.
We've barely had any new abilities since around level 20 - 30, so there isn't really much in our arsenal that involves learning or adapting to new boss fights. The only raid I haven't done is Weeping Queen, and from what I've seen, our current raids are mainly just about reviving each other and whittling the boss down over time while trying not to get killed. This is also somewhat irritating when a boss randomly decides to bully you to death when you're completely helpless.
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phresh wrote on 2011-03-10 18:35
I like them a lot. Especially as a Fiona. Early on I heard how Fionas will become useless with later content (rubbish), so it's nice to see 'YAY A FIONA' when I join an Irukul or Klaus run.
My first Irukul run took around 35 minutes. I've had good ones take around 9 minutes. Last night I hosted one that took almost 40 minutes since we had 3 or 4 newcomers. Thankfully, I've only been in one wipe where too many people left and we all abandoned, and I've only run pubs. The block pushing really makes for an interesting dynamic and can make the fight a piece of cake if it's done well or a grueling battle if it's not done well.
Klaus is a good one, too. First few runs were 20-30 minutes. Since then I've been in good groups where we cleared it in around 7 minutes. He's really not that hard but the contagious debuff thing can cause some real problems when people aren't aware of it. Two or three Fionas counter-spamming his one counter-able attack makes it pretty easy. I've seen a lot of people trying to organize getting him cornered but I'm yet to see that work well. Someone usually gets hit and then everyone loses their stamina from the debuff.
Weeping Queen is pretty crazy. You really need an organized group for it. The majority of pubs I've joined resulted in a wipe within a minute or two. It's total madness once she spawns the mini spider bosses. Hate to admit it but my only success on this one was due to some generous player spamming Party Graces until we finished her off. I think we all learned a lot from it, at least.
I've seen glimpses of the chain hook method working and have heard it makes it quite easy when it's done properly, but I'm yet to see it done properly in a pub. Evies not being able to use chains is certainly a hindrance.
All in all, they made me want to join a bigger guild that does regular raid runs with good players.
Cheers.
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Rinne wrote on 2011-03-11 15:24
I just did Klaus on Fiona today and it was actually kind of fun... on my Evie, it was just dodge, attack, splat, splat, splat. I think Fiona is a lot more fun against most bosses because she has guarding and counterattacks on top of dodging/attacking, and I feel that this adds another layer to the fight.
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jakjak4161 wrote on 2011-03-11 17:49
pretty sure your leader was hacking, this was posted as a concern on nexon community forums.
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Rinne wrote on 2011-03-12 07:51
Yes, any PvP in regular dungeons means someone has a PvP flag up from a hacked run. It's contagious and spreads. I hear rebooting Vindictus or deleting/protecting the config.cfg fixes it.
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Micho wrote on 2011-03-12 16:42
Also be careful when you've been in a hacked run, my friend was in one and she almost got hacked, luckily she changed her password quick enough and did a full computer scan, re-downloaded Vindictus, and all that good stuff, it's sad that there are people trying to ruin this game for us.